To ask would you still vote Tory after everything Boris has done and if so, why?

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My husband and I were talking about this over dinner and I'm genuinely interested in people's answers (not looking to wind anyone up).

I'm a tactical non-Tory voter and will continue to be so because I think we are back to private affluence and public squalor which I abhor. But it's true that Labour aren't yet articulating a coherent vision of what they want the UK to look like, which is a tipping point for a change of government. But based on chat i hear in my job and city...

Johnson got in because 1. Brexit and 2. Corbyn. Right now we have Putin threatening so people are less likely to vote for change. If Sunak takes over they will probably win again because people think he did a good job. Less likely if Truss does because there's not much to her tbh. There's nothing wrong with Starmer but an 8% swing in one election cycle is unlikely, though I guess maybe possible in the social media era.

I'll vote Tory. Anything to keep Labour out!

I'd never vote for them

The mind boggles that people actually think the tories give a shit about women and their rights

I vote Tory because I align the most with their manifesto. I will vote Tory again.

Nope. Never have, never would.

I have always voted Tory. I will vote for them again.

I have never voted Tory in my life but am forced to vote for them next time because every other party is throwing women’s’ rights under a bus. Labour, Lib Dem, Green and SNP support gender ideology. It is harming women and girls. So Tory vote it will have to be. First time ever. And I will tell every one of my girlfriends why.

I would never EVER vote Tory. Never have and never will do. Dh is a paramedic and the working conditions the government have subjected him to are truly disgusting. Something for all the Tory voters to think about the next time they need an ambulance.

Yes. Because the Labour Party isn't even close to being electable for a whole host of reasons and frankly I don't see them getting any better - only worse. Their main agenda seems to be identity politics. You can't run a country like that. And after everything that's happened in the past two years we need a party that can be trusted with the economy and trusted with immigration. That isn't Labour, never has been Labour and probably never will be Labour.

And because I will never, ever, ever forgive the Lib Dems for saying that if they won the last General Election they would just cancel Brexit. That showed an blatant, arrogant, contemptuous disregard for both democracy and the wishes of the ordinary people of this country.

I will vote Tory, only because all the other parties have swallowed the gender rubbish, I live in a Lib Dem area and it’s always Lib Dem so it makes no difference how I vote but I won’t vote for a party that’s eroding womens rights.

@HerbertChops yep that. 100%. Labour and Lib Dem’s need to get their act together on women’s rights. Until then I am switching my vote to Tory and it will stay there until they stop spouting mumbo jumbo.

@caringcarer

I'll still be voting Conservative. I don't trust Labour with economy. Remember the note they left when leaving office last time, no money left. Just think back to Brown he had half of the country on to benefits. I don't like Sunak either. Not good choices ATM but Conservatives better than others.

This old trope.

What the Tories have done to the economy by dragging us into Brexit has caused decades of harm. They are also single handedly destroying public services that will again take decades to resolve. The court services, social services, the court services, education and the police are just on the verge of collapse.

And no it's not just down to the pandemic, this was happening before, but it's just become even worse now.

I'm genuinely concerned like I've never been before that I wouldn't get treated if I were ill or protected if I was at risk. That is what this latest shower of shit have achieved. And they're so absolutely bloody pleased with themselves, while drinking their wine and eating their nice cheeses. It's abhorrent.

I wouldn’t vote Labour as I don’t believe the current party can run a country, and I can’t say I’ve noticed LD’s recently, so until Labour sort themselves out I’d vote Conservative.

Sorry I didn't mean to put court services twice!

How I vote depends on what the most likely outcome of that vote is on issues I care about.

Before about 2015 I was a lifelong Lib Dem voter. I would vote for them in first past the post elections (sometimes in a seat they may win, sometimes not) and in the London assembly (sort of proportional representation) because I felt they chimed with my values and whether or not they won I wanted to send a signal that they were my party of choice.

Then came the ridiculous 'a woman is whoever feels like a woman'.

I changed to being a single issue voter - I would not vote for anyone who didn't know that a woman was an adult human female, and defend single sex spaces. If first past the post limited my choice of outcome, I would spoil my ballot or vote for the party I felt (for whatever reason) would uphold women's rights between the two candidates who were likely to win the seat.

When the happy day comes that many parties can define a woman as an adult human female, then in propertional representation elections I will choose whichever party of those is the most 'green'.

In first past the post I will look at the likely outcome and may vote 'for' someone, may vote 'to keep someone out' or may vote for who I choose regardless of the fact they will never win, depending on the situation at the time.

Depending on time, party policy, view of candidate and location, some of the time I therefore may vote Tory.

@Mountaingoat12

I live in Scotland so I’d vote for any party whatsoever if it was the party most likely to beat the snp in my constituency. But I wouldn’t if I had a choice, and I wouldn’t vote for any of the current cabinet if they were to succeed Boris, with the exception of Ben Wallace seems to know what he’s doing in defence. All of the rest of them are just unbelievablely appalling - it’s a joke!

Why don't you like SNP?

@AnotherEmma

I have never and would never vote Tory. I would rather eat my own faeces than vote for the Tory party led by Boris Johnson.

Thanks for that irrelevant insight.

The thread title was lost on you, obviously.

[quote Blessex]@HerbertChops yep that. 100%. Labour and Lib Dem’s need to get their act together on women’s rights. Until then I am switching my vote to Tory and it will stay there until they stop spouting mumbo jumbo.[/quote]
I never really understand this logic.

I get that there are major concerns about the other parties' stance on women's rights. I share those concerns, but the Tory government is fucking all of us over, including women.

I will never NEVER vote for the Conservatives as long as I live. My reasons are:

1- They fucked over the pension of my DH and other public sector workers by changing the law to change their pension contract - forcing them to work an additional 11 years to claim the pension they should have had anyway.

2- Zero integrity - the sleaze, the lies, the entitled manner in which they conduct themselves.

3- the total shit show they have made of running the country - brexit, living costs rising at their fastest for 30 years, which is the tip of that shitty iceberg.

Boris is like the fucking Captain of the Titanic. Now we're all stuck on a sinking ship because of the incompetents in charge.

@Hapoydayz

Yes I'd vote tory. The opposition parties are a very scary prospect in comparison.

Exactly.

I think it's quite tragic that in spite of everything, this lot are still the best hope we have at the moment.

If I were a Labour or Lib Dem MP I'd be taking a very long, hard look at why that might be.

I can't believe there are people are saying they don't trust Labour with the economy. Eh, hello? Have you been paying attention at all?

And as for any Scottish person who would vote Tory. There are simply no words.

The options are shit, I want a 3rd party to vote for that will actually be in with a chance to win!

I don’t want to vote Tory, but will as labour are not an option due to the fact I’m a woman and I have two young girls.

It’s not that we think they give a shit about women’s rights, it’s about them being the only party so far, that have gone against women’s rights, so even though it’s dim, so far they are our only hope! (How scary is that!!)

I have never voted Tory in my life but am forced to vote for them next time because every other party is throwing women’s’ rights under a bus. Labour, Lib Dem, Green and SNP support gender ideology. It is harming women and girls. So Tory vote it will have to be. First time ever. And I will tell every one of my girlfriends why.

Well said Blessex, this is exactly how I feel. My vote is now on this single subject until Self-ID and gender ideology are thrown out.