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To think this is getting ridiculous…

215 replies

RenGreen · 14/01/2022 12:37

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59997364

I mean putting to one side she’s the Queen a woman who lost her husband after a 73 year marriage and unable to have her family by her side…a woman herself in her 90s whislt the civil servants whose advice she followed party!!!!

On top of that the other people of this nation who were protecting their loved ones - losing loved ones. Not holding celebrations. I do not believe anyone can defend this PM or his advisor/administration. We can and MUST do better.

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AlexaShutUp · 14/01/2022 12:39

I'm sorry to say it but we will only do better if people start making better choices at the ballot box.

Youarefakenews · 14/01/2022 12:46

@AlexaShutUp

I'm sorry to say it but we will only do better if people start making better choices at the ballot box.
We also need much better choices to pick from at the Ballot Box. I can't think of any of the current members of parliament I'd trust to run a bath never mind a Country.
DanielRicciardosSmile · 14/01/2022 12:48

At this point I'm wondering if they actually ever do any work, as there seem to have been staff parties held on a daily basis.

AlexaShutUp · 14/01/2022 12:50

@Youarefakenews, I don't disagree. There were no acceptable options in my constituency at the last election, so I had to make a choice between not voting at all and going for the least worst option.

I do not personally believe that Boris was the least worst option. The country voted in a man who was known to be a morally bankrupt liar. We should not therefore be surprised to discover that he has been lying and acting without any moral compass. He is behaving exactly as expected. The electorate is partly culpable.

tigger1001 · 14/01/2022 12:51

@DanielRicciardosSmile

At this point I'm wondering if they actually ever do any work, as there seem to have been staff parties held on a daily basis.
Yep! Especially as we were (and still are) dealing with a massive crisis. And what were the government doing? Partying.
AlexaShutUp · 14/01/2022 12:52

@DanielRicciardosSmile

At this point I'm wondering if they actually ever do any work, as there seem to have been staff parties held on a daily basis.
Yes indeed, and Boris apparently finds it difficult to tell the difference between a party and a work meeting. From what we have heard about the drunken parties, it seems unlikely that their parties were unusually businesslike. My only conclusion is therefore that his confusion tells us an awful lot about their way of working.
rambleonplease · 14/01/2022 12:56

We need better options. I have never been a Tory voter as they have never been on par with my beliefs and values, but right now labour quite frankly need to sort themselves out and give us a viable alternative. At the moment I have no idea what they stand for, they are very very weak.

Our current government are bunch of corrupt imbeciles. But without a strong opposition any government can get away with literally murder. Both sides are crucial for a balanced democracy to work effectively.

sweetgingercat · 14/01/2022 13:13

Our system is broken and needs a lot of repair. We need competent trustworthy people to act in our best interests. We need...

  1. Some sort of coalition government to sort this out.
  2. PR - FPTP is the problem that got us here.
  3. An elected upper house
4 Restrictions on political donations (esp from overseas)
  1. More local democracy
  2. Restrictions on press ownership and delinking between political parties and press.
  3. No more Facebook/Cambridge Analytica type campaigning
  4. Possibly an elected head of state (rather than a royal family)

Thats to start with...

MsFannySqueers · 14/01/2022 13:14

I agree with @DanielRicciardosSmile these freeloaders are presumably paid salaries to carry out governmental duties? When do they do their actual jobs? If they wish to socialise with each other, it should be outside of work hours and work premises. This is the case for most normal working people. Has this always been the culture in Downing Street? More likely this culture has arisen from Boris’s ‘leadership’.

KonTikki · 14/01/2022 13:15

I don't actually blame Johnson in any of this. He has always been an amoral, lying sociopath and anyone who trusted him or thought he may change as PM has been naive at best.
But I do blame the Conservative party for electing him as their leader, then by default landing him on the rest of us.
Any half decent member of the Party was purged at the start of his premiership, and the Cabal have been left to run the Government whilst making increasingly ludicrous excuses for his behaviour.
It's nothing but embarrassing.

VickyEadieofThigh · 14/01/2022 13:15

The very minute the Tories remove Johnson and elect a new leader they will leap up in the polls.

The Tories will remove him - but it seems to me they want to do it closer to an election.

StoneofDestiny · 14/01/2022 13:17

No idea what Johnson has to do to get the electorate to see he is unfit to rule. He is a prolific liar, a deceitful philanderer and a misogynistic racist. A total Peppa piggish embarrassment to the country.

StoneofDestiny · 14/01/2022 13:19

But I do blame the Conservative party for electing him as their leader, then by default landing him on the rest of us

Yes - the Tories chose him as their best. What is their worst like?

rambleonplease · 14/01/2022 13:21

@VickyEadieofThigh

The very minute the Tories remove Johnson and elect a new leader they will leap up in the polls.

The Tories will remove him - but it seems to me they want to do it closer to an election.

Yes this is exactly what will probably happen!
Hemingwayzcatz · 14/01/2022 13:22

@AlexaShutUp

I'm sorry to say it but we will only do better if people start making better choices at the ballot box.
Totally agree with this.

I’ve always voted for Labour and voted remain so none of this mess is on me, my conscience is clear.

XantheBreeze · 14/01/2022 13:23

YANBU but also remember that many of these were civil servants with jobs to serve whatever government is in power, not stories.
They should also have known better and presumably would have done the same if Starmer had been PM had they been allowed.

And as for all the journalists who attended or at least knew about all of this throughout and said and did nothing….

XantheBreeze · 14/01/2022 13:23

*Not (just) Tories

Thelnebriati · 14/01/2022 13:25

We also need much better choices to pick from at the Ballot Box. I can't think of any of the current members of parliament I'd trust to run a bath never mind a Country.

I'm actually scared about who's going to be the next PM. There aren't any good choices, its bad if he stays and the alternatives are worse.

Blinkingbatshit · 14/01/2022 13:25

I’m now really cross that the media are shifting their gaze to Andrew & Djokovic- NO! they need to continue to concentrate on the most alarming issue facing our nation - a government and administration who are not fit to be in post. Yes, other news stories must be told too but they also can’t brush this under the carpet. They mustn’t be allowed to!!

StoneofDestiny · 14/01/2022 13:26

Never was it more obvious that the Tories are a London/England centred party - Rees Mogg can't remember the Welsh Tory Party Leader and dismisses the Scottish Tory Party Leader as a 'lightweight'. Great at helping forward the case for Independence 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

StoneofDestiny · 14/01/2022 13:27

Says it all

To think this is getting ridiculous…
MovingHome22 · 14/01/2022 13:27

@XantheBreeze

YANBU but also remember that many of these were civil servants with jobs to serve whatever government is in power, not stories. They should also have known better and presumably would have done the same if Starmer had been PM had they been allowed.

And as for all the journalists who attended or at least knew about all of this throughout and said and did nothing….

All those who say "they're all as bad as each other" are wrong. There's no way Starmer would allow this stuff on his watch. If he did find out a lockdown party had gone on behind his back he'd be furious and boot them out. Starmer is a person of integrity. Boris is corrupt and a liar and he has fed this culture in his team, and chooses to surround himself with other despicable people.
pigsDOfly · 14/01/2022 13:27

Absolutely, it's getting beyond ridiculous.

Huge amounts of money spent on refurbishment of the flat, giving friends and family contracts for things like PPE, parties, parties and more parties.

So many noses in so many troughs.

It's sickening.

So many people have suffered in so many way throughout the last couple of years: losing loved one's and not being able to be with them when they died, not being able to attend funeral, not seeing family for months on end but it really seems as if that has all past the government by.

Even the Queen had to sit on her own at her husband's funeral. I'm no fan of the royal family, but if she had to stick to the rules, surely her bloody government should do the same.

BoredZelda · 14/01/2022 13:28

It isn’t “getting” ridiculous, the whole thing is ridiculous.

With everything he has done, people are getting their knickers in a twist about parties he wasn’t even at.

Sure, if it brings him down then fair play, but there’s a lot worse that he actually did that he should have go nee long before now.

StoneofDestiny · 14/01/2022 13:29

and presumably would have done the same if Starmer had been PM had they been allowed

But we didn't elect the Civil Servants and they haven't lied to us about anything (yet) and Starmer can't be blamed in any way for this - it's Johnson and his Tories!