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To think this is getting ridiculous…

215 replies

RenGreen · 14/01/2022 12:37

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59997364

I mean putting to one side she’s the Queen a woman who lost her husband after a 73 year marriage and unable to have her family by her side…a woman herself in her 90s whislt the civil servants whose advice she followed party!!!!

On top of that the other people of this nation who were protecting their loved ones - losing loved ones. Not holding celebrations. I do not believe anyone can defend this PM or his advisor/administration. We can and MUST do better.

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IsitSaturdayYet · 15/01/2022 17:58

The trouble is the other side think it's OK to call people who don't agree with them "scum" in a public speech and get to keep their high ranking job!

Londoncallingme · 15/01/2022 18:00

Not a party - a few drinks after work. Her Maj had to sit along as the cameras were there - do you really think that she didn’t have her family around her in private? Of course she did. So bojo& co had a few drinks after work in the garden - they’d been together all day at work anyway! I couldn’t care less.

Blossomtoes · 15/01/2022 18:24

@Londoncallingme

Not a party - a few drinks after work. Her Maj had to sit along as the cameras were there - do you really think that she didn’t have her family around her in private? Of course she did. So bojo& co had a few drinks after work in the garden - they’d been together all day at work anyway! I couldn’t care less.
What a good thing for the sake of the country that you’re in a tiny minority.
Baxterbear · 15/01/2022 18:45

YANBU but unfortunately we get the government we deserve when over 50% of the population couldn't be arsed voting. 🤷‍♀️

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Tiredmum122 · 15/01/2022 19:01

I think the problem of the Civil Service doing as they choose while telling everyone else to do something different is decades old and has occurred for Labour and Conservative Governments. The whole system needs a fundamental overhaul.

Corcory · 15/01/2022 19:08

I am a tory paid up member but didn't vote for him to lead the party. Never been keen on him and always thought he would be trouble. That said he is an ideas man, he has the personality to take risks which is what we needed in the pandemic so we made big decisions about vaccines etc. but what he needed was a professional micro manager to ensure these things didn't happen, he didn't loss his notes or walk into a freezer! Things would have been fine if they had sorted the micro management out.

user1497207191 · 15/01/2022 19:09

@Tiredmum122

I think the problem of the Civil Service doing as they choose while telling everyone else to do something different is decades old and has occurred for Labour and Conservative Governments. The whole system needs a fundamental overhaul.
I agree, most civil servants stay in their jobs when the political party changes, or at least have a shuffle around within the public sector. From what I’ve read, there were more civil servants at these parties than politicians.
Chuck2015 · 15/01/2022 19:22

I was a Labour Party activist for years and did my very best to prevent this awful situation we find ourselves in. However I remember vividly how uninterested and passive people were in December 2019, completely understandably but look where we are and it was v predicable. Bluntly people need to engage more and take responsibility. It’s not my job more than anyone else’s to ‘sort’ this, just because I’m a party member- we are equally responsible, I would have much rather have been watching box sets than canvassing/leafleting, often in the pouring rain but after the Tory win in 2015 I couldn’t sit back and do nothing. Step up a bit next time folks, please, let’s learn from this x

Londoncallingme · 15/01/2022 20:03

@Chuck2015

I was a Labour Party activist for years and did my very best to prevent this awful situation we find ourselves in. However I remember vividly how uninterested and passive people were in December 2019, completely understandably but look where we are and it was v predicable. Bluntly people need to engage more and take responsibility. It’s not my job more than anyone else’s to ‘sort’ this, just because I’m a party member- we are equally responsible, I would have much rather have been watching box sets than canvassing/leafleting, often in the pouring rain but after the Tory win in 2015 I couldn’t sit back and do nothing. Step up a bit next time folks, please, let’s learn from this x
And you think Corbyn was the answer? 🤣
flashy44 · 15/01/2022 20:26

I think it would easier for the person dealing with the investigation into these lockdown parties to ask about the days they didnt have a flipin party.They have mocked us all.Remember Priti Patel telling neighbours to snitch,shes gone very quiet now i notice.

Perimeni · 15/01/2022 20:41

He is the leader. If there were parties then he had no choice but to resign. I voted for him but this is indefensible. If this is the culture he should've given the whole team the hard word that they were to follow the rules to the letter. My MD would not have to tell us this. We have common sense. After making people die alone, keeping loved ones from their bedside, keeping people from funerals and decimating businesses, how dare they! He should've gone by now. Very telling that at the moment another lone woman has been the only person to admit anything. Ville wretches

Bignanny30 · 15/01/2022 20:44

Hilarious !!! Make better choices at the ballot box - you mean like vote labour ?? Who wouldn’t know the truth if it bit their arses !
Sack them all (all parties) and start from scratch again 😂

Wisper1 · 15/01/2022 21:36

@Baxterbear

YANBU but unfortunately we get the government we deserve when over 50% of the population couldn't be arsed voting. 🤷‍♀️
Whatever you do don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/general-election-2019-turnout/

SeaWitchly · 15/01/2022 21:41

I do not personally believe that Boris was the least worst option. The country voted in a man who was known to be a morally bankrupt liar. We should not therefore be surprised to discover that he has been lying and acting without any moral compass. He is behaving exactly as expected. The electorate is partly culpable.

I completely agree Alexa.

ilovesooty · 15/01/2022 22:13

@Bignanny30

Hilarious !!! Make better choices at the ballot box - you mean like vote labour ?? Who wouldn’t know the truth if it bit their arses ! Sack them all (all parties) and start from scratch again 😂
What specific untruths lead you to assert that?

How would sacking all parties and starting again work?

AkashRooprai · 15/01/2022 22:41

Spot on - excellent analysis

Chuck2015 · 15/01/2022 22:42

He not my choice for leader but I’d bet my house on the fact we are wouldn’t have lost 150,000 lives, and he wouldn’t have stitched up care homes and people with underlying health conditions for starters. It’s bonkers if you are suggesting anyone would have done a worse job than this corrupt bunch??!!
He has really experienced and respected cabinet behind him as well, not the privileged Eton massive who have never lived in the real world ! What a bonkers and ignorant response !

eastegg · 15/01/2022 23:22

[quote AlexaShutUp]@Youarefakenews, I don't disagree. There were no acceptable options in my constituency at the last election, so I had to make a choice between not voting at all and going for the least worst option.

I do not personally believe that Boris was the least worst option. The country voted in a man who was known to be a morally bankrupt liar. We should not therefore be surprised to discover that he has been lying and acting without any moral compass. He is behaving exactly as expected. The electorate is partly culpable.[/quote]
I came on to say almost exactly the same.

I can’t deny, as a Labour supporter, that the choice on offer at the last general election was poor. But I also genuinely thought that BJ was the worst option, and voted accordingly. I feel even more now that I was right.

liliainterfrutices · 15/01/2022 23:41

@Chuck2015

He not my choice for leader but I’d bet my house on the fact we are wouldn’t have lost 150,000 lives, and he wouldn’t have stitched up care homes and people with underlying health conditions for starters. It’s bonkers if you are suggesting anyone would have done a worse job than this corrupt bunch??!! He has really experienced and respected cabinet behind him as well, not the privileged Eton massive who have never lived in the real world ! What a bonkers and ignorant response !
Nor would he have bunged billions of pounds to Dodo Harding for the failed Test and Trace. I don’t like Corbyn. I did vote Labour in 2019 because it was the best chance against the Tory. I’d give my right arm for a Labour-led government now. The Tories are far worse than I feared and I knew they’d be terrible. Anyone sneering at Labour and pretending that they would have been worse deserves no respect at all in my view.
BashStreetKid · 16/01/2022 00:10

It doesn’t appear as though the Labour leader is whiter than white when it comes to partying during lockdown

There has been no evidence of Starmer partying.

BashStreetKid · 16/01/2022 00:14

@Bluebluemoon39

Well I'll still be voting Tory - unless I just don't bother voting at all, but I hate not voting.

It'll be a cold day in hell before I vote for Labour.

The party doesn't bother me tbh - I'd have thrown a cheese and wine party if I thought anyone would've shown up.

Do you really think politicians from other parties and every Tom, dick and Harry weren't "breaking the rules?" - they've just managed to keep it under wraps (so far)

Boris and co were just unfortunate enough to get found out.

Doesn't it bother you that the people who made the rules that the vast majority of the population were following weren't bothering with following them themselves?

Don't episodes like the Owen Paterson affair, the payment for flat refurbishment, the unlawful procurement contracts, the care home mess, the PPE failure, and indeed defending Cummings bother you in the least?

BashStreetKid · 16/01/2022 00:16

@Londoncallingme

Not a party - a few drinks after work. Her Maj had to sit along as the cameras were there - do you really think that she didn’t have her family around her in private? Of course she did. So bojo& co had a few drinks after work in the garden - they’d been together all day at work anyway! I couldn’t care less.
No. 10 is a big organisation. If you really believe that everyone at the party had been working together all day, you're deluded.
Ownedbyafrenchie · 16/01/2022 00:17

Actually the Conservatives won approx 44% of the vote in the 2019 general election, which according to my calculations means that a whopping 56% of the electorate DIDN'T vote for them!

If you're going to try ridicule someones answer at least check your facts instead of pulling the passive aggressive act! 🤣🤣

www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2019/results

BashStreetKid · 16/01/2022 09:05

FFS. Latest rumour is that his recovery strategy includes giving Gavin Williamson a knighthood. To keep him quiet, because he knows where all the bodies are buried.