To ask what you’re doing awake post-midnight?

[5YearsLeft]

I had a day that just really banged me about, physically, emotionally, just all the ways, and now, I’m laying here awake and staring at the ceiling.

So why are you awake? Crying baby? Can’t stop thinking? Worried about something tomorrow? Pain somewhere in your body being an arsehole?

Welcome?

@FrolickingFannyBoots Yes, definitely try the sertraline then. Do be aware that it's famous for causing headaches when you first start taking it, so perhaps start on a Friday so that you have all weekend. But some people never experience headaches until they get to higher doses (100mg+) so you might not either. And don't panic if you don't notice it's helping - it really does take about four weeks to start working, so it's not a "failure" if you don't notice it doing anything at first. First week, nothing. Second week, maybe you notice you cry a little less. Third week, still nothing large, but perhaps you notice you're not thinking about things as much (before you couldn't stop thinking about the things you're afraid of again and again and again). Fourth week, you start to realize maybe it IS the medication - you're not crying as much, you're not thinking about the negative things as much, you're able to think a little more about the positive things, focus more on you, etc. So. Don't worry in week one.

[quote 5YearsLeft]@Saradegrey I don't want to diagnose anyone over the internet, but is it possible you're a bit depressed? I mean ANYONE would be over COVID and lockdowns and everything alone, but then facing what you've faced, losing two businesses that I'm sure you'd put so much into, must have been awful. But you said you had friends. Do you think they wouldn't be your friends because you don't have money? Have you tried reconnecting? Or can you just not handle dealing with people since everything's happened (COVID and losing businesses), and maybe you need some help for anxiety from that. I just hate seeing what sounded like a good life just fall apart when you're still young, and young enough to have friends and enjoy them. Well, except this horrible sneezing thing you've mentioned.[/quote]
YOu are very perceptive. You're right. I can't face people. I didn't even send Christmas cards - I ignore all contact from friends - cards, letters, emails. It's like a massive weight. Thank you for your lovely comments which have helped me to think more clearly.

Goodnight ladies. I am off for a walk in the moonlight. Dawn can't be long now.

Oh god - am MRI! My worse nightmare. I have the most dreadful anxiety and a subset of OCD that means I struggle with suicidal thoughts in certain situations due to childhood trauma. To talk to me in rl though you’d think I was a normal person though! Yes I would need more meds for things I find difficult. I’m having EMDR therapy on the NHS but it’s not worked much sadly. Tried to avoid meds but I’m gonna give some a go.

Sorry, I’ve hijacked this thread! I’ll try to get some sleep. Thank you 5 years. You have calmed and soothed my jagged tired soul. xx

@Saradegrey I just... if I were you friend, I would want you to know that I wouldn't give a flying fanny if you lost every cent you owned and every business you had. Friendships aren't based on those things. Maybe you had a lot to lose, and that's made it a lot harder. But please, please don't push your friends away. I'm sure they WANT to be there for you. And you might find that in letting them in, it would take the weight away, not make it worse. Anyway, don't want to worry at you, but just something for you to think about. Good luck!

@FrolickingFannyBoots Ah! In that case, yes, you would probably take what I take which is sertraline every morning and then I have pills for when anxiety hits and I can take a maximum of two per day. So it's a daily pill and then a crisis pill, and they're meant to work together, and you talk to a doctor who prescribes these kinds of medications about how they work out for you (like yes, they did work when some horrible anxiety thing happened - I popped one, and 10 minutes later, it wasn't the end of the world / for example, my anxiety crisis pills actually melt in my mouth). So yes, it's not just one 50-mg pill and "good luck to you," especially with anxiety.

That said, good luck!!!! I'm on my other thread, which is where the photos are mostly, and I think i'm going to make myself a rice cake sandwich now.

[quote 5YearsLeft]@Saradegrey I just... if I were you friend, I would want you to know that I wouldn't give a flying fanny if you lost every cent you owned and every business you had. Friendships aren't based on those things. Maybe you had a lot to lose, and that's made it a lot harder. But please, please don't push your friends away. I'm sure they WANT to be there for you. And you might find that in letting them in, it would take the weight away, not make it worse. Anyway, don't want to worry at you, but just something for you to think about. Good luck![/quote]
Thank You! I will do that.
I will also look out for your posts.
You are a very refreshing person - a "young soul" as my grandmother would say. All the best to you x

I’ll see if I could do that 5 years. I could do with that mixture of meds as well. My OCD is a real problem and confines my life a lot so I need to find meds that work for me. Thank you for the advice. I’ll try to find your other thread later x

5years left, yes a referral to a sleep specialist might help I’ve just woken again with a terrible nightmare coupled with sleep paralysis. In the dream I managed to fight the enemy and beat it. Still terrifying though. I’m now awake with a milky hot chocolate. Luckily no work tomorrow. My cat has joined me on the bed and I’ve allowed it for the company, even though he is a loud purrer and a snorer!

I'm up 4-5am most working mornings

Not enough hours in the working day due to unprecedented work pressures in covid times over last 2 years. It won't ease up for us for years.

Tired Social worker

My 3 year old toddler climbed into our bed at around 3am and while getting comfortable, somehow managed to manoeuvre his butt right in front of my DH's face at the exact moment DH was yawning and DS let rip an almighty eye wateringly awful fart that was fully inhaled. DH gagged and threw up over the side of the bed. My son went to sleep oblivious. I on the other hand haven't stopped laughing. Sleep has been impossible, for the right humorous reasons for a change.

@Queenie6655

In labour about to have a baby

Are so much yummy food jn hospital today and the bed and room js just so comfy also xxxx

Haha sorry for typos

Just a post to say why I'm awake and I guess a big appreciation for wonderful nhs staff helping so many

Loved it in this hospital
Feeling very lucky

@5YearsLeft just been reading through all the thoughtful, caring and insightful replies, especially yours, to everyone posting here going through tough times. Mumsnet at its best...women supporting other women, who may not have that in real life. It's inspiring me to do better.

@saradegray I really wish you all the luck in the world. If you and @FrolickingFannyBoots want to find me, I’m normally over at www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4415696-AIBU-to-want-to-rage-against-the-universe? Lots of my photos and a bit of my whinging about life, but ANYONE is welcome to whinge about their life, as needed.

@Thomasina79 I know it’s a few hours later but so glad you had a milky hot chocolate and a furry companion. Still, I’m sure it was absolutely terrifying. It sounds like you definitely need help, because nobody should have to fear sleep. Who wouldn’t have trouble sleeping if they knew they have a very good reason to fear it? I hope they came find you a solution.

@verytiredofbeingshoutedat I can’t even imagine being a social worker in these COVID times. Bless you and I hope you can get some rest on weekends and that you have people to help recharge your spirit. Just know the work you’re doing is seriously vital, even if not everyone is grateful, and some days are much harder than others.

@Mudday OMG! That sounds like something in a movie! You should write into some kind of magazine and win a prize; that’s just wild, hilarious, dirty, and so, so wrong. And of course, OF COURSE, your son just went back to sleep totally unaffected. The damage they do!

@Queenie6655 Ha! You! I’m so glad to hear it’s still going well! It’s been a few hours since you posted so I’m wondering if baby has appeared yet? I wish you all the best!

@MWestie Well, if you’re going to be awake anyway, and you can’t bleach the floorboards… you might as well support other people who are awake, ha.

[quote MinnieJackson]@PlantingTulips omg thank you, that's amazing advice! He's just fallen asleep on the sofa. I've not tried the sachets in the bath, will get some tomorrow. I forgot about epaderm, I used it a few years ago on myself. Massive thanks to you[/quote]
Really hope it helps. We've never had a problem since we followed her advice.

No baby yet

Slow induction
Losing patience now

[quote UnsuitableHat]@HeadPain sorry to hear about your dad - hope you do get some rest tonight. x[/quote]
Thank you

[quote 5YearsLeft]@HeadPain Oh, no. I'm so, so sorry to hear this. I know that when they say something like that, it's just like someone just punched you in the gut. You can actually feel yourself doubling over inside, like you can't get enough air. I really, really hope that they find a way to get his treatment working, in a best case scenario, and if that's not to be, that you're able to be with him, and he's in no pain, no suffering, and things are the best they can possibly be. We pray for a miracle, and we prepare for the best possible outcome. The very, VERY best of luck to you and your da. And I completely understand that desire to take your mind off it for a while with Netflix. Let me know if you need any other Netflix recommendations.[/quote]
Thank you. Yes you're right.

@Queenie6655 hope it's all going well and you get some sleep tonight!

@Queenie6655 Oh no! I’m sorry that it’s turned into much more of a marathon than a sprint, which is really NOT very enjoyable when it’s a baby you’re trying to have, but I’m sure you’ll get there soon, and we’re all cheering for you!

I enjoy the quiet at that time of the day, both indoors and outdoors.

@Chely That’s a great reason to be awake. We could all use some extra peace and quiet. It seems like there’s never enough of it during the day. Very wise of you! And I’m sure it must be beautiful outdoors.

[quote 5YearsLeft]@Queenie6655 Oh no! I’m sorry that it’s turned into much more of a marathon than a sprint, which is really NOT very enjoyable when it’s a baby you’re trying to have, but I’m sure you’ll get there soon, and we’re all cheering for you![/quote]
It's ok

C section

Treated so well we have been very lucky xxxx

Congratulations @Queenie6655

Congratulations @Queenie6655! So glad your little one is here and you’ve been treated like a “queen…ie” at the hospital.

Also, here we are after midnight again. If anyone is up and needs some support or just to talk, the thread is… open?