To ask what you’re doing awake post-midnight?

[5YearsLeft]

I had a day that just really banged me about, physically, emotionally, just all the ways, and now, I’m laying here awake and staring at the ceiling.

So why are you awake? Crying baby? Can’t stop thinking? Worried about something tomorrow? Pain somewhere in your body being an arsehole?

Welcome?

@Ravetastic yes you must contact your GP in the morning. Don't put it off, and don't be put off if they're busy.

I'm so sorry things feel so bad.. but getting help is the first step up

Much love to you x

@kittykat33 I’m so sorry to hear that! I had COVID originally all the way back in 2020 before this current time, and it was very confusing because I got congested again and again, and they were doing serology tests on me (I have autoimmune disorders so I was being studied a bit too) only to find that I had a lot of inflammation in my blood, and my blood “thought” I was still positive for COVID even four weeks later. So I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just still related to your original COVID, but I’m so sorry you feel awful. Have you tried putting your head over some steaming water, or putting a hot water bottle in the middle of your chest?

@Photosymphysis A few days ago the thread actually had an article on how people in medieval time did “two sleeps.” Maybe rhat could work for you? Go to bed a little earlier and then when you wake up, it won’t be such a loss, and you have a time to fall asleep again for second sleep? I realize that might not work at all, but I know how exhaustion can feel just, so just was hoping something might help you. Here’s that article from BBC:
www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-biphasic-sleep

@Giggorata How lovely about the moon! I’m so glad you got to see it, and like to think that you and your wee dogs going FOR a wee were able to see it for all of us who couldn’t. It sounds so nice. Cheers!

@Ravetastic TW WARNING: CONCERNIDRIFJSU SUICIDE/HARM Oh gosh, I’m so sorry. You know, there are good days, there are bad days, and then there are days we wish we could just completely erase from existence because we hate them so much. I don’t know what the breakdown was over, but usually they show up for a reason, and it’s like… an infected wound that has to be cleaned out. It hurts, a lot, it may leave a scar, maybe even a bigger scar than the original wound, and will leave you very raw. But you’ll finally be healed… of THAT particular wound. I know that mental health is an ongoing battle and that it’s not just, “Oh, I didn’t take my life, I went to my GP, I’m getting help, and now it’s all peachy.” Of course it’s not. But you’re very brave for reaching out to your GP at all. So, please don’t hate yourself. You are ill. You have an illness just like anyone on this thread with COVID or cancer or Crohn’s disease. And just like all of them, you need treatment and doctors and help to live the best life you can. And I hope your GP helps you get them. Good luck tomorrow. It’s another day, even if today was a shit pot of a day. And as someone who tried to jump in the river on February 28, 2020 after getting yet ANOTHER diagnosis that meant my pain was only going to increase more and more, I will never, ever, ever judge people who are in too much physical or emotional pain. Please come back to this thread anytime you need to know someone is here that is not judging you.

My son hasn't woken me up tonight, I had a bad nightmare and feel pretty shaken up.

@wishingitwasspring How lovely about the moon and wondering who else can see it. I see a window across from me (from quite a distance; you can’t see inside) every night when I’m up and the lights in the room are off but you can see the flickering of the TV all night every night and I often wonder if they just need the TV to sleep or if they’re an insomniac. Or perhaps they’re a WFH movie reviewer and those are the fastest internet hours! Who knows. But it’s nice seeing someone out there.

@Intothelight123 I’m sorry! I’m sure most of us know that feeling. Can you turn in a light and do something that feels cozy? Read/watch something cozy for you, so it takes the edge of the memory of the dream?

@5YearsLeft thanks, I've read about that. I've done a lot of reading about sleep since having my youngest. I already go to bed at 9. I usually try to get up just after 5 for a run etc before the kids get up. No running for me in the morning (AN HOUR 🤦‍♀️).

I couldn't go to bed any earlier and still get everything done.

Sometimes I wake up and as far as my brain is concerned I've had a nap and I'm good to go 🙄. I work FT, I exercise, I go outside, I do time restricted eating, we have fancy lights to help circadian rhythms. But nope. Brain says no tonight.

I've read my book (dim red lamp) and finally got up and had something to eat. Back in bed and STILL AWAKE.

The bit that fucks me off the most is that during the day I'll be completely inept and exhausted. But I'm wired now.

Seriously considering calling in sick tomorrow for fear of sleep deprived driving. But it'll fuck up the rest of my week.

@Photosymphysis Hmm. Well, Al I can say then is this: you deserve to have a bloody good rant. It sounds like you’re trying absolutely everything and still just having some nights it might not work. I do think there are some people who are naturally nocturnal, or perhaps not one or the other and their body “switches” back and forth and can’t be tied down, and I wonder if you’re one of them. I don’t know if you’ve ever tried melatonin to see if it helps? If it helps, it might be something in your natural sleep cycle? And if it does sweet fuck all, then it might point out more than a cycle (like a problem staying asleep)? I’m just throwing out ideas here and seeing which ones stick to the wall.

BUT, as for sleep deprived driving. My husband used to be a pilot for the military. They told them not to drive and they would be held liable for anything that happened to their helicopters if they tried, whilst sleep deprived. They were told trying to drive on less than six hours (SIX hours!) was already some drunk driving. How many mothers are driving on so many less than six? So while I’m sorry it would fuck your week, please consider calling in. You’re too important to the world to lose by driving while too exhausted. Or to a serious injury from it. Work seems so important, I know, but living has to come first.

Morning, this sleep lark is proper screwing with me...

My mother has had episodes of attempted suicide in the past, I have C-PTSD as a result of growing up around it.

There's no reason to hate yourself, gp is a good move

[quote 5YearsLeft]@TenSteps So why don’t you DJ/write music/play piano anymore? Sounds amazing but I understand if other work or other life stuff got in the way.[/quote]
Hmm. I have an inferiority complex and actively self-sabotage to avoid pushing myself. I did contribute the melody to a released track last year though.

I’ve been awake since 3- again. I’m so stressed, my brain won’t switch off.

Morning everyone.

Sending positive thoughts to those that are struggling.

We’ve all got Covid now, even DH who took a while to test positive. Just holding a wriggling, coughing baby who is desperate to be asleep but can’t settle. Also have an annoying tickle in my throat that won’t be coughed away. It’s going to be a long week with us all at home. I had suggested DH call in sick today so that we can have a more relaxed day but he’s going to work from home as usual. So no respite for me. I’m exhausted.

@Ravetastic
Please contact your GP and try not to dwell on what others are thinking. People spend too much energy on that and usually they’re harder on themselves than others would be.

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As to why I’m up. Young son woke me up around 2am and he went back to sleep quickly but I haven’t been sleepy since. It’s annoying when that happens.

@TenSteps Self-sabotage is the proper worst. I used to be a good writer but I’m too scared to write anymore BUT I still have things to say. It’s a mess. Sounds like the same feelings about your music. Maybe contributing the melody was the first step back in?

@Imissmoominmama Even those bastard Moomins are probably sleeping while we’re not. That obsessive stress thoughts that keep you tossing and turning can be the worst. I hope you found some rest.

@BaggaTDoubleTroubleDoubleG Oh no. A poorly, coughing baby just sounds awful. I think I would cry. And warning: I had the tickle in the throat and then it became the sore throat so raw I’m spitting up blood, so you know, forewarned is forearmed. I’m sorry your husband doesn’t understand the concept of, “PUT DOWN THE BLOODY LAPTOP, DEAR,” which oddly, my husband doesn’t understand either.

@MimiDaisy11 Ah nothing better than someone else waking you, them sleeping again, and you there eyes wide open. There ought to be a law.

Moomin's

You write in a very engaging way, it's great. More blaming Moomin's though!

I've finally ordered some jewellery incorporating DP's ashes. At least I've got something done!

Oh @TenSteps that’s absolutely lovely. If it’s not too personal, do you have a link? I’m looking for something to put my grandfather’s ashes in. My father who disowned me when I married my husband (no scandal, my husband is a half-black Irishman, and my father is a white bigot) sent them to me in this hideous bracelet that neither I nor my grandfather would have chosen.

It's why I've taken my time, be very careful of craftspeople that use resin as it discolours. Here's who I'm using - ashesintoglass.co.uk

Thanks for your suggestions @5YearsLeft

I'm usually a fairly good sleeper after retraining myself after DC2.

In the end I hit the caffeine this morning (I gave up caffeine a few years ago too, save it for special occasions like today! 😂) and got on with it. Including the gym at lunch.

I listened to Matt Walker's podcast on the way home about temperature and sleep. So some things to try tonight.

If I'd stayed home and napped I wouldn't be able to sleep tonight either; my body clock would've got all out of sync.

Here's hoping everyone here gets a better night tonight and there's a new midnight crew instead!

@TenSteps That’s absolutely beautiful what they’re doing.

Also, insomniacs, sigh. Attached, proof that when it rains, it pours and pours and pours and pours. Finally got these results about 3pm today. And the number in combo with my symptoms worsening means I’m probably at the beginning of the disease. Sore throat is now sore throat, headache, dizziness, double vision and my arms not staying up. Hoping I’ll be asleep tonight, so I’ll miss you all!

@Photosymphysis Good on you for still hitting the gym, since it sounds like that’s really important to you. You’re a bloody inspiration.

I'm knackered but can I fall asleep? Course bloody not!

Hey everybody. Anybody up! I got a tiny slimy of sleep. And now I’m awake because the pain in my throat can take your breath away, so going to try some stupid tea. I tried

Covid induced insomnia. Am a night owl anyway but yesterday was nearly 24 hrs without sleep. This sucks.

I grabbed a nap earlier now I'm wide awake!

Hope your throat settles down.

@Zombiemum1946 I have the COVID too. It’s absolute shit. So sorry it’s it’s keeping you up too.

@TenSteps Thank you! Just finished making tea (moving at the speed of light, I am) so can finally drink it. So glad you got a nap… but not if it made you wide awake now…