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Carrie Johnson - time to resign

271 replies

PersonaNonGarter · 11/01/2022 23:36

I realise she isn’t an elected politician, but Carrie Johnson gives me red mist. It’s a combination of her smug OW-ness and the flat refurbishment and general influence on the staff hires at Number 10. And the fact that she is so unaccountable.

YABU - it’s misfired anger, Boris is ultimately responsible for everything including his wife

YANBU - she has agency and influence and hiring an £££ interior designer was hardly Boris’s idea was it

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DifficultBloodyWoman · 11/01/2022 23:37

How very misogynistic of you.

BobbieT1999 · 11/01/2022 23:39

Fire Boris and hold him accountable for all his many f**k ups. Carrie won't be there if he's not which should appease you Wink

PersonaNonGarter · 11/01/2022 23:40

Is it misogynistic of me? Like hunting for a Lady MacBeth figure? I have asked myself this.

And then concluded that, no, she’s a political actor and can be assessed as such. And I don’t like her.

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Knickynackynoo · 11/01/2022 23:40

I think people seem to forget what she did before rebranded herself as animal rights activist, barefoot bride......sharpest elbows and most forked tongue of the lot of em!

WhatTheWhoTheWhatThe · 11/01/2022 23:40

@DifficultBloodyWoman

How very misogynistic of you.
Indeed
GreenLunchBox · 11/01/2022 23:41

I give their marriage two minutes when he is fired. Hopefully tomorrow

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Beecham · 11/01/2022 23:43

I don't think she can resign from being his wife. Not quite sure what you're asking her to do

Sheabutterisdelish · 11/01/2022 23:44

Yeah she's as bad as him

Whadda · 11/01/2022 23:45

From what do you think she should resign?

KimDeals · 11/01/2022 23:45

Me too. I loathe her. Find her deeply un-likeable.

PersonaNonGarter · 11/01/2022 23:45

@Beecham

I don't think she can resign from being his wife. Not quite sure what you're asking her to do
Well eventually he’ll run out of people to take the hit for him, and she’ll be next. So resign or get fired I guess.
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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 11/01/2022 23:48

I don’t like what I’ve heard about her, but she’s not the elected politician, so called “leader” of the country. He is. So my dislike for him is stronger!

There is a very smug OW-ness about her, you’re right. Some people also give off smug OW vibes without actually being OWs now I think about it… Happily taking on a man who’s been a shit to another woman- and Carrie is a prime example as his behaviour is publicly known- is pretty bad in itself!

Grantanow · 11/01/2022 23:52

If Johnson goes, she goes. But the problem is the Tories have no obvious successor for him, one that can win the next General Election so my guess is he will survive the present fracas and therefore so will she. Awful, I know, but that's politics, a rough old trade on all sides. Of course, he may not survive beyond the summer....

UltraVividLament · 11/01/2022 23:53

@GreenLunchBox

Any time a woman is criticised it's framed as misogyny here. ODFO
This is bs.

Treating Carrie Johnson as a manipulating conniving figure who controls Boris Johnson like a puppet is misogynistic. It also plays into Boris Johnson's carefully cultivated image of affable lack of responsibility. He knows exactly what he's doing, he's incredibly ambitious and self serving and perfectly clever enough to manipulate and dissemble. He'd be quite happy for people to blame his spouse for his failings.

AlexaShutUp · 11/01/2022 23:54

I don’t have a high opinion of her at all. For one thing, she has terrible judgement, as evidenced by her choice of husband. I also suspect that the stories about her exerting an excessive influence are true.

However, the real problem is Boris. He is the elected politician and he is responsible for his actions as prime minister. Nobody else. Once he goes, which will hopefully be soon, then the Carrie problem will resolve itself.

BobbieT1999 · 11/01/2022 23:55

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

I don’t like what I’ve heard about her, but she’s not the elected politician, so called “leader” of the country. He is. So my dislike for him is stronger!

There is a very smug OW-ness about her, you’re right. Some people also give off smug OW vibes without actually being OWs now I think about it… Happily taking on a man who’s been a shit to another woman- and Carrie is a prime example as his behaviour is publicly known- is pretty bad in itself!

What's OW?
PersonaNonGarter · 11/01/2022 23:56

Kirsty Wark on Newsnight: ‘We all know there are hardly any grown-ups around the Prime Minister…’

Ouch. That’s a low-key well-aimed dig at a 20-something year age gap. And I don’t have Kirsty Wark down as a misogynist.

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GreenLunchBox · 11/01/2022 23:59

Other Woman

As in someone who knowingly got with a married man

PersonaNonGarter · 12/01/2022 00:00

Treating Carrie Johnson as a manipulating conniving figure who controls Boris Johnson like a puppet is misogynistic.

Oh I don’t think she controls him. She feeds in to what’s going on and that her judgement is poor and her behaviour bad (and possibly illegal if she did attend the party).

Just because she’s his wife, doesn’t mean we can’t take a view on her when she is clearly part of No 10 life and involving herself with gusto.

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GreenLunchBox · 12/01/2022 00:01

@PersonaNonGarter

Kirsty Wark on Newsnight: ‘We all know there are hardly any grown-ups around the Prime Minister…’

Ouch. That’s a low-key well-aimed dig at a 20-something year age gap. And I don’t have Kirsty Wark down as a misogynist.

Why would you take it that way? Carrie is 30-something, hardly a child. I don't even think about an age gap when I look at them .

Surely she meant the whole cabinet are childish and unprofessional. That's how I took it.

TheHamburgler · 12/01/2022 00:01

What @AlexaShutUp said.

TheHamburgler · 12/01/2022 00:03

Kirsty Wark on Newsnight: ‘We all know there are hardly any grown-ups around the Prime Minister…’

Ouch. That’s a low-key well-aimed dig at a 20-something year age gap. And I don’t have Kirsty Wark down as a misogynist.
I wouldn’t interpret the comment the way you have.