Carrie Johnson - time to resign

[PersonaNonGarter]

I realise she isn’t an elected politician, but Carrie Johnson gives me red mist. It’s a combination of her smug OW-ness and the flat refurbishment and general influence on the staff hires at Number 10. And the fact that she is so unaccountable.

YABU - it’s misfired anger, Boris is ultimately responsible for everything including his wife

YANBU - she has agency and influence and hiring an £££ interior designer was hardly Boris’s idea was it

@merrymouse

She looks like thousands of other women who wear that look

Agree.

She might have made poor relationship choices and she might have done things that people find irritating on an ‘AIBU to hate it when people…’ level, but fundamentally she is not the PM.

No she isn't the PM, an MP, a civil servant but apparently she is at these work meetings that look like parties. If they are work meetings she shouldn't be there, if they are parties she shouldn't be there.

Apart from that I don't have any views on her.

Isn’t she on maternity leave?

@sweetcheekweak

Let me guess what news 'paper' you read...

Go ahead. I don’t think you’ll get this right though. I think you might just do some lazy shorthand.

@PersonaNonGarter

Isn’t she on maternity leave?

I assume she is on maternity leave from her own job, I think it is with a charity.

Literally nothing I have read over the last few weeks has changed my view that she has been generally poor influence on No 10. And that she definitely has been an influence on No 10.

Oh come on, you know how it can be. You go to the animal shelter, see a Big Dog you like the look of and decide he's the one for you. All the staff look a bit askance and suggest something more manageable, he's been returned twice after biting previous owners. No, I'm used to Big Dogs, I know just how to deal with him. Take him home and he pees on the furniture, opens the fridge and empties it whenever your back is turned, runs riot throughout your life and is completely ungovernable. But you've got him now and have to keep him until he bites the postman or worse. Good luck Carrie.q

She did try to give him a nice birthday party.

@whatscratch, I did not know Carrie did that. Thank you for telling us. I agree she must feel very strongly for women's rights and issues. It would have taken a lot of courage and determination.

Just FYI - Alice Robert’s in the Times yesterday wrote about Carrie and name-checked Mumsnet (this thread).

There was also a big spread on them as a couple.

We have an encroaching pandemic - country lurching into Brexit and the first priority is to buy extortionate wallpaper for no 10 - that is surely down to her.

How lovely for her Persona. I hope it showed her as a responsible owner as Big Dog is observably playing true to form. Dressing him in Cath Kidston shorts like a 6 year old probably isn't helping portray the image required of a Prime Minister.

It's all the fucking ABBA I can't stand.

@longwayoff

Oh come on, you know how it can be. You go to the animal shelter, see a Big Dog you like the look of and decide he's the one for you. All the staff look a bit askance and suggest something more manageable, he's been returned twice after biting previous owners. No, I'm used to Big Dogs, I know just how to deal with him. Take him home and he pees on the furniture, opens the fridge and empties it whenever your back is turned, runs riot throughout your life and is completely ungovernable. But you've got him now and have to keep him until he bites the postman or worse. Good luck Carrie.q

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@LadyEloise1

She did try to give him a nice birthday party.

I bet she made him listen to more fucking ABBA

@PersonaNonGarter

Literally nothing I have read over the last few weeks has changed my view that she has been generally poor influence on No 10. And that she definitely has been an influence on No 10.

The issue is that she shouldn't have any influence at all on a PM elected by the people.

It's on him that he's such a weak character that he's influenced by his wife when he has at his disposal the best of the UK public service to make his own mind in policy, planning for UK future and adhering to the rules his own government has publicly announced.

He's a fully funcioning adult elected to the highest office iwhen at least he's supposed to maintain some dignity for the country and voters that elected him.

Either he is a weak idiot or a complete incompetent. Either way, he's responsible for what's happening.

forget Carrie (who makes my teeth ache & she is only a temp wife anyway - probably married her because he thought it might improve his popularity with the older brexiteers) what worries me is the man is in a corner & what might he do to keep his position.
So far he is revamping the EU laws (which mostly protect working people or inequality & safety of some kind) but what else might he do?
I keep thinking he will look back to Churchill in ww2 or Maggie & the Falklands & with the situation in Ukraine being volatile would he involve us or aggravate the situation there for his own ends.? His car crash & tactless diplomacy record in the past does not bode well for this.

Fair point mumwon. The Party had better ditch him quickly as Boz with a chest full of 🏅 🥈 🎖 channelling Churchill is deeply unappealing to everyone but himself. And he would do anything to cling on. Anything.

The Tory government will be in a mess if they try to engage in any serious conflict with the Russians. A lot of their party and various corrupt business empires rely on Russian dirty money.

I cannot imagine a single death of a service person in Ukraine would be a vote winner - unlike the Falklands - and times were very different then. Also if Russia does invade Ukraine we can't end a rag-tag task force including civilian boats and about to be retired planes and kick them out like the Falklands.

@daimbarsatemydogsbone yep I know that too but his actions & comments have escalated situations rather than solving or helping Zaghari-Ratcliffe in Iran or when under May his (lack of) diplomacy with brexit.
Could he throw in some token forces or put forward some unthought of claim or plan to support Ukraine against Russia - & aim to distract the public from his actions? Of course he could, he has a record of this

Reminds me of Cherie Blair.
Insisting that since they were married they were a Prime Ministerial Team. As if they were elected together.
Didn't get this with other PM spouses.