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AIBU to think that Boris should resign now?

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Seemslikeagoodidea · 11/01/2022 17:45

Today it has been revealed that in May 2020 invitations were emailed to (allegedly) 100 Downing Street staff, for a garden party. This party happened during the first lockdown, when many people could not visit their elderly relatives, even on their death beds, due to the lockdown rules. The email was sent by one of the PM's top people, and stated that people should "bring their own booze and enjoy the sunshine". Today Boris has been conspicuous by his absence.

I think this is the final straw and shows a lack of judgement and absence of moral fibre. Enough is enough - he should resign and if he doesn't do it then his own party should force him to go.

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Tealightsandd · 11/01/2022 21:43

@LizzieW1969

*I’m also interested in who is behind all of these leaks.*

I've no doubt that it's part of Cummings' ongoing campaign against BoJo. He's doing it for his own ends, obviously, but

It's Hancock round two. And it's worked like a charm.

The ERG wanted rid of him because he was resistant to removing mitigations. They got rid and hey presto, 100s a week dead and many more disabled became a 'low' number.

Now it's time to step it up. Despite nearly 400 people killed from Covid in just one day, they want to get rid of all safety mitigations. Note I say mitigations, not restrictions.

It's not even as if it's for the economy anymore. Basic infection control mitigations help keep the economy going.

But they want to ignore all science and common sense (and morals).

'Living with' a still new disease that kills and disables many means mitigations. Just like seat belts and child seats for cars.

Masks, vaccine passes, good ventilation such as HEPA filters and corsi-rosenthal boxes.

But for some reason those who will replace Boris (with Twelve Homes Sunak?) are against these sensible measures.

Tealightsandd · 11/01/2022 21:44

Sunaks PR team are brilliant. Managing to make a billionaire Brexiteer former hedge fund broker look relatable and kind. They are planning to install him at the right time and then he will claim he had no decision making part in the previous government.

This.

Silent But Deadly Twelve Homes Sunak.

BoredZelda · 11/01/2022 21:48

There was no way of knowing that from your post. I was around in the 1970s but many who weren't think that Labour was responsible for the three day week.

It was the start of the most prolonged periods of successive governments. I don’t believe it’s necessary to go back to “first there were the dinosaurs” in every post just in case a younger person might be incapable of doing their own research if they are interested.

tarasmalatarocks · 11/01/2022 21:49

@Tealightsandd. Totally agree— I get the feeling sunaks a kind of stab you in the back bloke- with a smiley face and with 12 homes and married to a multi billionairess, I’m not sure reality is a close friend.

BoredZelda · 11/01/2022 21:51

It's not even as if it's for the economy anymore. Basic infection control mitigations help keep the economy going.

’Living with' a still new disease that kills and disables many means mitigations. Just like seat belts and child seats for cars.

I’m surprised how few people understand these really basic premises.

OhdearOhdearOhdearIndeed · 11/01/2022 21:53

In all of the jobs he's had he should have resigned pretty quickly. He won't fuck off until a better carrot is dangled probably.

I dread to think who we would get next though. There are some decent conservative MP's but none of them are more senior and would be considered sadly. At least with Boris they are annihilating any chance of being elected again and other parties are now leading. It is eroding faith in all the other senior Tory MP's too which is great. It gives people a chance to feel that another party could do better and be more credible, which is what we really need. Enough of these divisive, sound bite, sleazy politics and back to normality and common sense. These last 10 political years have been trash.

User135644 · 11/01/2022 21:57

@Tealightsandd The Tory donor commercial landlords aren't happy

Cornettoninja · 11/01/2022 21:57

@LizzieW1969

Personally, I think Johnson really should resign or be forced out by the Tory Party. I don't think he'll ever leave willingly, though.
Oh I think he would - for a price. I’m convinced he’s financially gaining for being the PM over one of the worst shit shows this countries seen in generations. Nobody wanted to touch brexit and it’s weird to me he pushed so hard to be in power during its transition knowing it was built on complete fabrications. He’s sold his soul.

The only satisfactory outcome from my pov is that his usefulness diminishes as his brand becomes evermore toxic and someone else is a more favourable figurehead and he ends up with fuck all but that’s only going to happen with a large percentage of us getting royally fucked in the process.

OhdearOhdearOhdearIndeed · 11/01/2022 21:57

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

Unfortunately a lot of people complaining on here will be convinced to line up and vote for them again come election time. They are masters of reinvention.

Sunaks PR team are brilliant. Managing to make a billionaire Brexiteer former hedge fund broker look relatable and kind. They are planning to install him at the right time and then he will claim he had no decision making part in the previous government.

I'm not fooled by Sunak. I will vote for someone from a more humble background. I can't see Sunak understanding poverty and improving social mobility in this country. He reminds me of a smarmy Apprentice candidate.
OMG12 · 11/01/2022 22:25

Generally I’m a Tory voter -he has to go now (together with anyone who attended the party) Hopefully the police will prosecute.

ParsleySageRosemary · 11/01/2022 22:25

^this.

Here's Rishi Sunak's wikipedia entry, covering his family and personal background. If we think Boris Johnson is unrepresentative and remote from ordinary people, Rishi Sunak is far far worse. How can an intercontinental jetsetter, child and grandchild of intercontinental jetsetters, ever begin to comprehend the plight and interests of miners' grandchildren in Wigan, Newcastle and Mansfield? There's no way he can be considered a fit prime minister for the ordinary British people.

ParsleySageRosemary · 11/01/2022 22:26

Grin That was supposed to reference @OhdearOhdearOhdearIndeed

Millionairesshortbreadshort · 11/01/2022 22:32

100 of them knew about this and didn’t report it. It was illegal. They should all be sacked. All 100 of them, Boris and the advisor that did the invite. They should face criminal charges.

I’ve written to my MP. I’m so angry about this. People were notable to see dying loved ones or get a hug if they were grieving.

MirrorMirrorApplePie · 11/01/2022 22:38

He must go.

Toffeepenni · 11/01/2022 22:47

I can’t see him going anywhere, people are becoming numb to his weekly headline fuck ups. It becomes like background noise in the end sadly.
Labour don’t appear to want to be in power and are more interested in their internal problems, and the Tories are probably lining up some other incompetent for us when the time is right.

eastegg · 11/01/2022 22:53

At the time it wasn’t even the rule of six. You could only meet one person outdoors, socially distanced.

whatkatydid2013 · 11/01/2022 22:54

@BoredZelda

What’s absolutely ridiculous is, with everything he has done, from a badly handled pandemic to billions wasted in contracts to his buddies, people are going fucking nuts about a party he might have been to and that is why he should leave.

What a fucking world.

I tend to agree but I won’t be at all sad if this does finish him off
ohfourfoxache · 11/01/2022 22:56

The benefit of him hanging on until the next election is that it will cause catastrophic losses for the Tories

Although I’m not sure I can stomach the smirking cunt for that long

Slingingcontest · 11/01/2022 22:57

If he had any decency ...

Smallkeys · 11/01/2022 23:00

Between COVID and gathering children he has hardly been about anyone unless the cheese is out. The whole lot if them from Cummings testing his eye site , the other guy visiting his lover and Matt cock groping his burd in the corridor. That’s just the stuff off the top my head an absolute shambles the lot of them.

EmmaMaya · 11/01/2022 23:01

He must go.

But if he had an ounce of decency he would have gone already.

Shame on him clinging on. And shame on every other person that attended.

Gilmorehill · 11/01/2022 23:06

@ParsleySageRosemary

^this.

Here's Rishi Sunak's wikipedia entry, covering his family and personal background. If we think Boris Johnson is unrepresentative and remote from ordinary people, Rishi Sunak is far far worse. How can an intercontinental jetsetter, child and grandchild of intercontinental jetsetters, ever begin to comprehend the plight and interests of miners' grandchildren in Wigan, Newcastle and Mansfield? There's no way he can be considered a fit prime minister for the ordinary British people.

I’ve nothing against him personally or against him personally but you can’t be close to such immense wealth and be a PM. Perhaps he should have considered that at the time or maybe he took Tory voters for mugs.
onlychildhamster · 11/01/2022 23:09

@ParsleySageRosemary I read it, isn't his father a GP and his mum a pharmacist? He only married a billionaire's daughter? i mean of course his FIL being a billionaire is not a desirable quality I want for my PM, I would be concerned he would be influenced,.

onlychildhamster · 11/01/2022 23:14

If Rishi becomes PM, we will get more allegra stratton as they are great pals. But I would rather him than Liz Truss. Liz Truss once wrote that British workers are the world's worst idlers.

I am not sure she is the best person to lead the british people if she thinks they are idlers.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19300051

The UK "rewards laziness", does not encourage risk-taking and must strive to emulate the work ethic and low-tax culture in parts of Asia, the five MPs argue in a book due out next month.

The authors include Elizabeth Truss and Dominic Raab, both tipped to be promoted in a future reshuffle.

"Too many people in Britain prefer a lie-in to hard work," they argue.

btw i am from the part of Asia that they admire. My mum worked till 11 pm every night when I was a child (she was in a corporate job and not given much of a choice, there were no non government controlled unions either). I wonder if tory voters would like to work such long hard hours? Or do they not care as many of them are now pensioners?

Tealightsandd · 11/01/2022 23:16

Rishi Sunak is the man of the (rich) people.

He's already significantly worsened the public health housing and homelessness emergency.

His stamp duty holiday lost the tax payer about a billion in tax, whilst further inflating the bubble. No good for FTB, nor for growing family upsizers.

Of course, he's cost the taxpayer much more than just the billion lost stamp duty tax. It costs billions to house homeless families and vulnerable individuals in temporary accommodation. Billions more goes on housing benefits for expensive private rents. And then there's the billions on indirect costs - the knock on consequences of insecure housing and homelessness. NHS including mental care, social services, criminal justice system.

The talk about children's life chances and education re temporary lockdowns? The public health housing emergency impacts far more heavily and longer term.

But what does Twelve Homes Sunak care?