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AIBU to think that Boris should resign now?

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Seemslikeagoodidea · 11/01/2022 17:45

Today it has been revealed that in May 2020 invitations were emailed to (allegedly) 100 Downing Street staff, for a garden party. This party happened during the first lockdown, when many people could not visit their elderly relatives, even on their death beds, due to the lockdown rules. The email was sent by one of the PM's top people, and stated that people should "bring their own booze and enjoy the sunshine". Today Boris has been conspicuous by his absence.

I think this is the final straw and shows a lack of judgement and absence of moral fibre. Enough is enough - he should resign and if he doesn't do it then his own party should force him to go.

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2old2beamum · 11/01/2022 20:51

YES, YES, at that time I like many others had a precious son in hospital, he was dying and because of his disabilities I was with him but his father and siblings were not allowed to visit. Yet he and all his "mates" were boozing in Downing Street. I am so tired of this lying government.
Sorry this is very personal but feel so cheated.

coffeerevelsrock · 11/01/2022 20:52

Then Labour came in and fixed it but after 13 years, brought it to its knees again. Then the tories came in and fixed it, but after 9 years have brought it to its knees again.

Labour didn't bring to its knees though - there was a global crash. And at what point after that it was 'fixed' I don't know. It's been a relentless decline since they got in in 2010. One of the reasons Covid hit so hard was the fact that the NHS was pretty much crumbling after a decade of under-investment. It's the Tories who bring the country to its knees time and again and then Labour get slated for spending much-needed money to try and bring it up again.

Schlerp · 11/01/2022 20:54

I agree he ought to go but I’m also terrified at the prospect of who might replace him. I’d much rather a vote of no confidence in the government and call a general election and give us all a fresh start…

merrymouse · 11/01/2022 20:54

Yes, he should resign.

Either he knew what was happening and endorsed behaviour that clearly didn’t comply with the rules, or (less believable) he didn’t know what was happening and couldn’t even govern his own house, much less the country.

Wilkolampshade · 11/01/2022 20:58

@2old2beamum so very sorry to hear this. X

FarewellNoel · 11/01/2022 21:02

Agree with those who say he should face prosecution, as should anyone else who attended. But yes he has to go now. He's a national embarrassment.

Cornettoninja · 11/01/2022 21:04

@Beachbreak2411

amp.cnn.com/cnn/uk/live-news/boris-johnson-supreme-court-ruling-dle-intl/index.html

In your defence he’s amassed a long, long list of behaviour that would have been unbelievable of a PM a few years ago. He’s given the country fatigue so deep he can shit on us from a great height and we’ll just ask him to do it again.

DroopyClematis · 11/01/2022 21:07

Alas, I think you might be right @Cornettoninja

There are far too many folk who just go " aww, bless him, he's just being Boris, love him."

User135644 · 11/01/2022 21:09

@BoredZelda

Oh yeah that period when Cameron and Osborne were calling for even more deregulation (just before the crash).

But it was Labour that actually did it.

However crap Labour might be you can always rely on the Tories to be worse.

I disagree. Both Labour and the Tories have presided over monumental fuck ups for decades. Labour brought the country to its knees in the 70s. The the tories came in and fixed it. But after 17 years they brought it to its knees again. Then Labour came in and fixed it but after 13 years, brought it to its knees again. Then the tories came in and fixed it, but after 9 years have brought it to its knees again.

The problem is, we have much longer periods in power than we used to and the good things these parties do to correct a problem swing too far the other way. When you look at the actual data, both parties have a similar effect on the economy.

I prefer the American system of 4 year terms and maximum of 2 terms for one leader. Their politics is as big a miss as ours is but you don't get one party or leader in power for too long. Only once since the war has either party had more than 8 successive years and more than 2 election cycles (Reagan x2 and then Bush senior). The House and Senate also provides some checks and balances.

I don't like either party being in for too long but the Tories fail to invest in public services while feathering their own nests and then Labour come in and spend big to make up for a lost generation. The same cycle plays out.

Peregrina · 11/01/2022 21:13

Both Labour and the Tories have presided over monumental fuck ups for decades. Labour brought the country to its knees in the 70s. The the tories came in and fixed it.

I think you will find it's the other way around. Ted Head was in power from 1970 - 74: 3 day week and first miners' strike. Then we had five years of Labour who had run out of steam by April 1979 when Thatcher got in. Who fixed nothing in the remaining months of the 70s.

Toblerone20 · 11/01/2022 21:13

I think Boris is very marmite…this party shenanigans won’t put most Boris supporters off , so until there’s a credible alternative he can probably hang on in there for as long as he wants.

I’m also interested in who is behind all of these leaks.

Deffo think the person who sent out the invite needs to be sacked.

Notonthestairs · 11/01/2022 21:18

There is no way the PM's private secretary arranged a party in Number 10 without agreement from his boss.

BoredZelda · 11/01/2022 21:18

I think you will find it's the other way around. Ted Head was in power from 1970 - 74: 3 day week and first miners' strike. Then we had five years of Labour who had run out of steam by April 1979 when Thatcher got in. Who fixed nothing in the remaining months of the 70s.

Sure, I started with the mid 70s, could have gone back to 1900. The cycle repeats. Also, I reasonable to think Thatcher could have turned the shitshow around in 7 months. There’s no denying she did so during her tenure. Then fucked it up later.

I mean, you can all argue as much as you like, that statistics on the economy are pretty clear. Labour or Tory, it makes fuck all difference.

Peregrina · 11/01/2022 21:19

Johnson won't go, because Carrie wants to enjoy her expensive wallpaper.

BoredZelda · 11/01/2022 21:20

I prefer the American system of 4 year terms and maximum of 2 terms for one leader. Their politics is as big a miss as ours is but you don't get one party or leader in power for too long. Only once since the war has either party had more than 8 successive years and more than 2 election cycles (Reagan x2 and then Bush senior). The House and Senate also provides some checks and balances.

I agree. Although not on the bit about the senate and the house. The last 4 years have shown that doesn’t always happen as it should.

Peregrina · 11/01/2022 21:22

Sure, I started with the mid 70s,

There was no way of knowing that from your post. I was around in the 1970s but many who weren't think that Labour was responsible for the three day week.

PinkPomeranian · 11/01/2022 21:27

How many "final straws" will it take to winch that man out of Downing Street? I am so sick and tired of the lies and gaslighting by No.10.

LizzieW1969 · 11/01/2022 21:29

I’m also interested in who is behind all of these leaks.

I've no doubt that it's part of Cummings' ongoing campaign against BoJo. He's doing it for his own ends, obviously, but

rrhuth · 11/01/2022 21:29

@2old2beamum

YES, YES, at that time I like many others had a precious son in hospital, he was dying and because of his disabilities I was with him but his father and siblings were not allowed to visit. Yet he and all his "mates" were boozing in Downing Street. I am so tired of this lying government. Sorry this is very personal but feel so cheated.
Don't apologise, of course it is very personal Flowers
LizzieW1969 · 11/01/2022 21:31

Posted too soon. I meant to say, obviously he's doing it for his own ends, but his motives don't really matter in this instance IMO.

Tealightsandd · 11/01/2022 21:34

Oh what fun we'll (not) have once Boris is gone.

400 deaths a day will be reported as a stable 'low'. Long Covid disabilities? Well, "let's just pretend that doesn't exist shall we"...

As for all the numerous other problems this country is currently facing. Oh dear. If you think Boris is bad (he's not good), just wait until his replacement comes along.

Brace yourselves, people....for Rishi Twelve Homes Sunak.

LizzieW1969 · 11/01/2022 21:37

Personally, I think Johnson really should resign or be forced out by the Tory Party. I don't think he'll ever leave willingly, though.

Peregrina · 11/01/2022 21:38

I prefer the American system of 4 year terms and maximum of 2 terms for one leader.

How much difference would that make? We have five years between elections but often less as we saw with 2015, 2017 and 2019. As for Leaders - during the post war years Thatcher and Blair have been exceptions. May did three years, Cameron did manage 6, Brown did 3, Major 7. Going back earlier Callaghan 3, Harold Wilson two tenures in No 10, 6 years and two years, Heath 4 years, Douglas-Home 1, Macmillan 6 and so on.

WildRosie · 11/01/2022 21:38

Boris Johnson is the Frank Spencer of Downing Street, a blustering, shambolic office manager but whom fails to elicit sympathy and understanding from the populace. And he's so thick he can't see it. I've never known a Prime Minister quite like him.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 11/01/2022 21:40

Unfortunately a lot of people complaining on here will be convinced to line up and vote for them again come election time. They are masters of reinvention.

Sunaks PR team are brilliant. Managing to make a billionaire Brexiteer former hedge fund broker look relatable and kind. They are planning to install him at the right time and then he will claim he had no decision making part in the previous government.