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AIBU to think that Boris should resign now?

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Seemslikeagoodidea · 11/01/2022 17:45

Today it has been revealed that in May 2020 invitations were emailed to (allegedly) 100 Downing Street staff, for a garden party. This party happened during the first lockdown, when many people could not visit their elderly relatives, even on their death beds, due to the lockdown rules. The email was sent by one of the PM's top people, and stated that people should "bring their own booze and enjoy the sunshine". Today Boris has been conspicuous by his absence.

I think this is the final straw and shows a lack of judgement and absence of moral fibre. Enough is enough - he should resign and if he doesn't do it then his own party should force him to go.

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TheHamburgler · 12/01/2022 20:56

in fact it will be great if he stays, people are seeing through him as a liar and charlatan, people who never in a 1000 years would ever consider not voting Tory but they are now... all down to BoJo
Absolutely. I’d love it if he clung on Grin

Appleandoranges · 12/01/2022 20:56

Very least we can expect from PM is that he follows the guidelines he sets. Not all politicians behave like that at all! Neither Theresa May, nor David Cameron would have allowed outdoor parties to be held at their own house, while people were prevented from seeing their relatives dying alone in hospitals. Haven't heard of any other Prime Ministers having outdoor garden parties. Who cares that members of the public flouted these laws too? Just because others break the law, doesn't make it acceptable for the Prime Minister to do so!!!Also think that the fact that we have a PM and politicians who follows the law is what marks us from other countries, where politicians do whatever they like. Think we are heading down a very slippery slope if we tolerate PM flouting guidelines he's just made. What else are we going to accept??? Lots of mistakes made by Govt too. We locked down too late first and second time which meant unnecessary deaths and more economic hardship as restrictions had to be in place for longer. UK's economic growth suffered the most out all major economies and public deficit has also increased the most. There was also lots of mismanagement of public funds (friends of MPs given fast track PPE contracts - this would be called corruption if it happened in developing country). Furlough scheme worked well though and vaccination program very good. The worst thing is his behaviour has undermined public trust and set a terrible example, if there is another pandemic, far fewer people will follow the rules which will mean more deaths.. People may think he's entertaining/likeable/good fun/quick witted and he's decidedly ambitious but the role of PM needs a level of judgement, maturity and strength of character he just doesn't have.

Alexandra2001 · 12/01/2022 20:56

He made some already exceedingly rich and greedy people much richer because they were his mates

Two of these contracts have been declared unlawful according to the High Court.... bit of a pattern here with our clown.

Bunnyfuller · 12/01/2022 20:59

@Appleandoranges

Very least we can expect from PM is that he follows the guidelines he sets. Not all politicians behave like that at all! Neither Theresa May, nor David Cameron would have allowed outdoor parties to be held at their own house, while people were prevented from seeing their relatives dying alone in hospitals. Haven't heard of any other Prime Ministers having outdoor garden parties. Who cares that members of the public flouted these laws too? Just because others break the law, doesn't make it acceptable for the Prime Minister to do so!!!Also think that the fact that we have a PM and politicians who follows the law is what marks us from other countries, where politicians do whatever they like. Think we are heading down a very slippery slope if we tolerate PM flouting guidelines he's just made. What else are we going to accept??? Lots of mistakes made by Govt too. We locked down too late first and second time which meant unnecessary deaths and more economic hardship as restrictions had to be in place for longer. UK's economic growth suffered the most out all major economies and public deficit has also increased the most. There was also lots of mismanagement of public funds (friends of MPs given fast track PPE contracts - this would be called corruption if it happened in developing country). Furlough scheme worked well though and vaccination program very good. The worst thing is his behaviour has undermined public trust and set a terrible example, if there is another pandemic, far fewer people will follow the rules which will mean more deaths.. People may think he's entertaining/likeable/good fun/quick witted and he's decidedly ambitious but the role of PM needs a level of judgement, maturity and strength of character he just doesn't have.
This a thousand times
justasking111 · 12/01/2022 20:59

Bournemouth that weekend

AIBU to think that Boris should resign now?
Roussette · 12/01/2022 21:00

An error of judgement, my arse.

What a polite way of saying he LIED. He went to a gathering/party knowing full well, Dowden Culture Sec, was taking the daily press briefing telling the public to mix with just one other outside. He will have known full well what was being said at the briefing. He will have known full well that the party was due to take place half an hour later.

I don't call that an error of judgement.
I call that a deliberate decision to agree to a gathering of 100 people, and attending the gathering, in direct contradiction of what his Minister was telling the public to do
Abhorrent and disgusting. And treating the public with complete and utter disdain.

Flowertailbird · 12/01/2022 21:00

@justasking111

Bournemouth that weekend
Those people DIDN'T MAKE THE RULES!!!!! Can you see the difference?
Flowertailbird · 12/01/2022 21:01

@Appleandoranges

Very least we can expect from PM is that he follows the guidelines he sets. Not all politicians behave like that at all! Neither Theresa May, nor David Cameron would have allowed outdoor parties to be held at their own house, while people were prevented from seeing their relatives dying alone in hospitals. Haven't heard of any other Prime Ministers having outdoor garden parties. Who cares that members of the public flouted these laws too? Just because others break the law, doesn't make it acceptable for the Prime Minister to do so!!!Also think that the fact that we have a PM and politicians who follows the law is what marks us from other countries, where politicians do whatever they like. Think we are heading down a very slippery slope if we tolerate PM flouting guidelines he's just made. What else are we going to accept??? Lots of mistakes made by Govt too. We locked down too late first and second time which meant unnecessary deaths and more economic hardship as restrictions had to be in place for longer. UK's economic growth suffered the most out all major economies and public deficit has also increased the most. There was also lots of mismanagement of public funds (friends of MPs given fast track PPE contracts - this would be called corruption if it happened in developing country). Furlough scheme worked well though and vaccination program very good. The worst thing is his behaviour has undermined public trust and set a terrible example, if there is another pandemic, far fewer people will follow the rules which will mean more deaths.. People may think he's entertaining/likeable/good fun/quick witted and he's decidedly ambitious but the role of PM needs a level of judgement, maturity and strength of character he just doesn't have.
Very well put!
jgw1 · 12/01/2022 21:02

Those people DIDN'T MAKE THE RULES!!!!! Can you see the difference?

And also weren't breaking any rules.

Roussette · 12/01/2022 21:02

What the hell has Bournemouth go to do with it? Were there Ministers on the beach?
Were the people on the beach giving daily briefings telling everyone what to do?

MorganKitten · 12/01/2022 21:03

He’s never resigned from any job, fired plenty of times, his ego won’t let him and he thinks he’s doing a good job.

daisiesonmydress · 12/01/2022 21:03

Yes

daisiesonmydress · 12/01/2022 21:04

@daisiesonmydress

Yes
I mean, yes he should resign not that YABU Blush
jgw1 · 12/01/2022 21:04

@Roussette

What the hell has Bournemouth go to do with it? Were there Ministers on the beach? Were the people on the beach giving daily briefings telling everyone what to do?
Nasty Party HQ has clearly send a memo to its useful idiots as to what squirrels they must try and use to distract attention. Given the Prime Minister was blaming people in parliament today for being upset that he went to a party, its hardly a surprise that it is now the fault of people who legally had a day out with their families in Bournemouth that the Prime Minister and his staff have repeatedly broken the law.
SueSaid · 12/01/2022 21:05

@Roussette

What the hell has Bournemouth go to do with it? Were there Ministers on the beach? Were the people on the beach giving daily briefings telling everyone what to do?
I presume the pp was demonstrating, as I was, that we weren't all locked up under house arrest as some people would have you believe.

This whole thing is the media and remainers trying hard to get shot of him dressed up as outrage over 'rulez breaking'.

justasking111 · 12/01/2022 21:05

They did break social distancing rules but how would you police that. The sheer numbers of people

AIBU to think that Boris should resign now?
Bunnyfuller · 12/01/2022 21:07

@justasking111

Can you point out which of the people in that pic stood in front of everyone and told them to not meet in groups? To not socialise?

The crowds there were selfish idiots. It seems quite common these days. But he’s the fucking leader of the country! He’s meant to set that standard, be exemplary, inspire and engage people to do the right thing. To set expectations to obey the laws of the land.

We aren’t having a competition to see who broke the rules the most, this is about a man heading this country whilst cynically ignoring the very rules he set out. He’s NOT the same as the people on the beaches, or me, or you, or your neighbour. (It wasn’t squaddies exhuming the war graves, BTW. I served in Bosnia in a military liaison role, and specialists were brought in, because war crimes. Not sure what sandbag your neighbour is pulling up here).

He is the leader of this country and should be beyond reproach. Is your bar really set that low?

Notonthestairs · 12/01/2022 21:08

Rule breaking? Do you mean law breaking?

Roussette · 12/01/2022 21:08

This whole thing is the media and remainers trying hard to get shot of him dressed up as outrage over 'rulez breaking

You're just showing yourself up now.

And you show little compassion for what others went through at that time. And you don't even try to understand their upset and outrage.

Flowertailbird · 12/01/2022 21:08

I am astounded that people are still clinging on to trying to defend this. Absolutely astounded.

Gilmorehill · 12/01/2022 21:08

@Roussette

What the hell has Bournemouth go to do with it? Were there Ministers on the beach? Were the people on the beach giving daily briefings telling everyone what to do?
The people on the beaches were just doing what they were allowed to do after a couple of months of being locked up ie nothing wrong. It’s comparing apples to oranges.
Notonthestairs · 12/01/2022 21:09

twitter.com/martindvz/status/1481337640737779714?s=21

Roussette · 12/01/2022 21:12

Yes, I am astounded too. I understand there's some true tories on here but I am totally taken aback that they think what has gone on is OK. And is nothing. Or just an 'error of judgement' move on, all sorted.

No.

SueSaid · 12/01/2022 21:12

@Flowertailbird

I am astounded that people are still clinging on to trying to defend this. Absolutely astounded.
Who is defending it? They shouldn't have done it, workplace or not. Johnson has admitted it was a mistake. Didn't you watch PMQ? Maybe try get it on catch up.

At this stage in the pandemic a new leader to appease the pitchfork wavers would cause massive disruption which we can certainly do without.

the80sweregreat · 12/01/2022 21:13

20 MPs have come out to support the PM
20 people with the morals of an alley cat.