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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

People who are private

163 replies

HobgoblinGold · 09/01/2022 23:02

spurred on from another thread, could people who regard themselves as private or quiet offer me some insights?

I'm trying to understand my ILs better. They don't talk about anything deep and rarely ask questions about mine, DH, kids lives - conversation is always superficial. I really struggle with this as I don't understand how family can be so uninvolved in this way?

So AIBU - of course some people are like this! (I kinda know this) but would really appreciate some insight into what its like. How do you like to connect with people? Because I can't see how, if conversation is always so surface?

Sometimes I feel like I'm an alien learning how to be human.

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limitedperiodonly · 10/01/2022 12:16

Spies are private. People who announce: "I'm a private person" are attention-seekers. How fascinating do they imagine their lives to be?

The rest of us manage to maintain normal social contact while avoiding divulging every cough and spit and banking details.

saraclara · 10/01/2022 12:24

@limitedperiodonly

Spies are private. People who announce: "I'm a private person" are attention-seekers. How fascinating do they imagine their lives to be?

The rest of us manage to maintain normal social contact while avoiding divulging every cough and spit and banking details.

I don't announce "I'm a private person" in real life. I've mentioned it here because OP specifically asked private people to comment on her OP.

I have said in the past that privacy is important to me. But I think that's perfectly reasonable when you are sharing something you wish to be confidential. After my experience of totally unfounded and untrue gossip about me being passed around my workplace, I think I have reason to feel that way.

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 10/01/2022 12:26

@limitedperiodonly

Spies are private. People who announce: "I'm a private person" are attention-seekers. How fascinating do they imagine their lives to be?

The rest of us manage to maintain normal social contact while avoiding divulging every cough and spit and banking details.

Mmmm! And if a private person chooses to 'announce' themselves in order respond to a question on an anonymous forum because they think it might help the OP? That being what said forum is for?
PrivatePrivatePrivate · 10/01/2022 12:29

I am exceptionally private, I have never discussed any problems I might have with anyone, parents, OH, children, maybe with a professional if necessary. It's just how I am, my children, 40s, sometimes find out odd things and are quite shocked and I am interested in them and their lives and those of their children. Reading this site I get amazed at how intermingled people's lives are with others' lives aqnd how much they seem to know about the lives of others.

PrivatePrivatePrivate · 10/01/2022 12:31

People who announce: "I'm a private person" are attention-seekers.

What bollocks! Maybe they are not interested in the tedious munutae of your life and wish you would keep your neb to yourself regarding their life!

HobgoblinGold · 10/01/2022 13:03

@HikingforScenery

They do not call him. My husband jokes that the only reason we do have contact with them is because of my efforts.

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HobgoblinGold · 10/01/2022 13:06

@CheltenhamLady

‘However, with regard to the medical issues, I absolutely would ask, inquire and offer any help or support needed. I find that cold and unfathomable.’

Thank you for your insight. I do question my interpretation on how they are. But I do find it sad that they simply do not ask and seem uninterested on this ad so much more.

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limitedperiodonly · 10/01/2022 13:06

Privacy is important to everyone including exhibitionists who only expose bits of their private life they want to.

It's precisely because I don't think the minutiae of my life (apart from information like bank details) would be interesting to anyone that I don't share them.

Announcing that you are a private person without realising that all of us value privacy and you are not special is a particular kind of attention-seeking.

HobgoblinGold · 10/01/2022 13:21

@limitedperiodonly

I was talking to MIL over the Christmas period and she was talking about how private her son is (DH brother). I find mum and dad will say things like this to avoid talking about the real issues. Such as the fact that DH brother is inconsiderate. I find their complete lack of insight and ability to look through rose tinted glasses annoying and frustrating.

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PhilCornwall1 · 10/01/2022 13:35

I'm a private person and will only talk about superficial things about me/my life. Anything else is nobody's business and I want it to remain that way.

I'm the same with anyone apart from my OH.

My parents know about my medical condition, but they don't know the full story and have no need to.

5128gap · 10/01/2022 13:46

Theres a difference between being private about one's own life and disinterested in other people's. For many years I was 'private' in as much as no one who knew me really knew a lot beyond the superficial. Certainly they wouldn't have known of any problems in my life. This didn't mean they didn't confide in me though. My reasons for it were partly because I was stuck in a 'helper' role that started in childhood, and saw confidences as something I received, and support as something I gave, never the other way round. I was also a people pleaser, and very keen to present myself in the way I thought was most positive to others. This naturally involves keeping what you see as the less palatable aspects of yourself private, and not wanting to 'impose' on others with your personal stuff, as well as a fear of being judged. Thankfully over the last decade, this has changed. I no longer need to be the outwardly 'perfect' go to person, and have found the value in opening to people. I'm not suggesting all private people are like this, or should change. Just my experience.

BoredZelda · 10/01/2022 13:54

I'd love a private MIL. She wants to know everything and most of it is none of her business.

She asked me if my daughter had started her periods.

You don't need to know every detail of someone's life to make a connection.

I think both parents are on the autism spectrum which impacts the way they see the world, people and the way they interact with people.

Yeah, this is pretty offensive. Have they been diagnosed?

saraclara · 10/01/2022 13:58

Privacy is important to everyone

Except it clearly isn't, because many many people have no respect at all for other people's privacy. Not to mention all the people who announce happily that they're 'an open book' and resent it when others don't tell them everything.

Again, the OP asked specifically if people who consider themselves to be private, would help with this. So those of us who are, are letting her know where our posts are coming from.

HobgoblinGold · 10/01/2022 14:02

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DrinkFeckArseBrick · 10/01/2022 14:10

I'm not sure they are private. I think it sounds like they dont care very much or dont have social skills. Sorry to be blunt. I answered your other thread but now I've seen your examples I think it's that rather than them wanting privacy.

So I'm private. I dont tell people what's troubling me, I dont really tell many people my views about a lot of things, I probably don't share how I really feel. It makes me uncomfortable.

However if someone was ill or there was something going on with their kids that was big, I'd always try and remember to ask about it (eg how is your child settling into reception, how is your dad after his recent op, how is your sister after she got made redundant, how is work as you said you were busy last time etc etc).

To me, if someone has told me something, it's ok to follow up on it (unless its private and you're following up on it in front of others) and if it's a significant event in their lives it would be rude not to. That's nothing to do with me wanting privacy, as me asking any of those questions does not threaten my privacy in any way.

It sounds like they just don't care enough to ask, I don't mean that in a horrible way just that some people are so self involved it's just that other peoples lives dont register with them. Or they massively lack social skills and just talk about what they want and assume you will talk about what you want rather than needing asked. I'd guess they relate to people by choosing to socialise with people who are happy to listen or put up with it, or on a very superficial level eg hobbies where it's fine just to talk about the weather, or people who are similar and all just talk at each other rather than listen and question.

Ultimately I'm not sure that understanding them is going to help you. What you seem to really want is for them to take an interest in you and your family, and there is nothing that you can do to make this happen.

BoredZelda · 10/01/2022 14:11

Why is it offensive to suggest someone may have autism? It is a know disorder which impacts how people interact with others and can be hugely distressing to those who have parents who are autistic.

Because not everyone with autism is like that, and not everyone who acts like that has autism. You don't get to diagnose people.

Dottybackorcid · 10/01/2022 14:14

Both myself and my DP are private people, to be honest it's draining around family members who insist every one should be interested in them constantly. The never ending Facebook posts of there kids every single day, the god awful memes about how good parents they are and how love is all you need, It never stops. When you meet them all they want to talk about is family gossip and moan how people are not interested in them or their kids.

We have a perfectly happy life and work toward our own goals,but we don't feel the need to seek approval for every little thing, or post none stop on social media just so we can validate our life's.

Private people often enjoy more discussions about things you have learned or new topics shared not for validation of your feelings but for interesting conversation. When you speak to someone and all they can discuss is them self's or their children or constantly seeking validation for your feelings is draining. Try discussing some thing special intresting you have read or seen or done out side seeking validation and I suggest they may open up more.

It's not up to there's to make you feel good, and if you want to label them boring because they do not subscribed to the me me culture look closer to home it's very draining to private people. Wink

HobgoblinGold · 10/01/2022 14:25

@BoredZelda

You are absolutely right - autism is on the spectrum with various presentations. Of course I can't diagnose but I can have an educated guess. This and lots of other factors help me to understand why they are the way they are.

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HobgoblinGold · 10/01/2022 14:27

@Dottybackorcid

I have tried this approach many times. Dad will end up dominating the conversation and mum is usually quiet.

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HobgoblinGold · 10/01/2022 14:34

@Dottybackorcid

I think what ive learnt from this thread is that I have never expected them to become involved in a ‘me-me-me culture’. I am just saddened they don't even ask after the health of there own son. This is an example of how they are so emotionally distant.

@Dottybackorcid do you know who I am btw?

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limitedperiodonly · 10/01/2022 14:34

[quote HobgoblinGold]@limitedperiodonly

I was talking to MIL over the Christmas period and she was talking about how private her son is (DH brother). I find mum and dad will say things like this to avoid talking about the real issues. Such as the fact that DH brother is inconsiderate. I find their complete lack of insight and ability to look through rose tinted glasses annoying and frustrating.[/quote]
Hi Hobgoblin. My parents grew up in a time and place where to be poor or of dubious moral character was enough reason for authorities, usually church-based, to step in and forcibly take children away from families for what was considered to be for their own good and put them in orphanages or with right-minded members of society sometimes on the other side of the world. Shocking, isn't it?

As you can imagine this created a deal of misery not to say abuse. It persisted in some parts of Britain and Ireland until the 1970s. Therefore my parents were wary about revealing family details to authority figures from Church, schools, health, local authority etc. That extended to us even though that was unlikely to happen. I still remember my mother saying to me every day before I went to school "None of my business." This was in the 1970s.

If you are interested there have been plenty of books and documentaries started by a wonderful woman called Margaret Humphries who I met after she founded The Child Migrants' Trust It wasn't the only example of state-sponsored child snatching here but the most organised and highly respected. It makes people taking photos of random children in the park pale into insignificance.

Those were special circumstances like coming from a country with State sponsored surveillance. Happily most of us do not have a background like that. I don't mind that people such as @PrivatePrivatePrivate sneer that my life is boring and of no interest. It's nice - not the fact that my life is boring but that the authorities are not interested in it.

I doubt your in-laws have the same motivation for secrecy as my parents. I think you are right in guessing that they don't want to talk about inconvenient things like the fact that your BIL is inconsiderate.

It's annoying. I find people who talk about their privacy to be irritating in the same way as people who say they don't like confrontation. Hardly anyone enjoys confrontation but sometimes it has to endured otherwise situations fester and everyone suffers.

It's normal to have things we'd prefer to keep to ourselves. That's not the same as dodging the issue which appears to be happening here.

I can't offer any answer. They can't be forced to confront things. But please don't go along with people who insist that they are "private" people as if they are somehow more special than you. My life is an open book until I decide to close it. That is how it should be with everyone.

Lostinafield · 10/01/2022 14:35

[quote HobgoblinGold]@BoredZelda

Neither have been formally diagnosed. But all the clues are there. Mum did take a test online which did suggest she made autism.

Why is it offensive to suggest someone may have autism? It is a know disorder which impacts how people interact with others and can be hugely distressing to those who have parents who are autistic. What is perhaps worse is people who potentially have autism but have no insight into how there behaviours impact those around them.[/quote]
I am autistic. I find it offensive that your focus is on how autistic people affect others around them, in your eyes negatively.
How ablist can you be?
Your poor parents-in-law. If you think they are autistic, maybe consider how difficult it must be for them to fit in with a world which Oscar majority neurological, rather than focusing on your "needs".

BooksAndGin · 10/01/2022 14:35

Me and DH are private people, I find it exhausting when people moan about every single detail and demand validation 24/7.
I'd rather keep to light subjects or subjects that are interesting About history, science exploration, etc.
It is draining listening to someone's medical problems, or failed marriage or parenting woes all the time. I cut someone out for that reason.

TulipsTwoLips · 10/01/2022 14:36

You seem to need to find a label for people who aren’t giving you what you need from communication!

Cuck00soup · 10/01/2022 14:38

What is perhaps worse is people who potentially have autism but have no insight into how there behaviours impact those around them.

Seriously?