To think Molly Mae is getting shit because she’s a woman?

[BlisterConcern]

Yes, the comments are ignorant and naive. But I think people are going way too far with the abuse. I’ve seen many posts on social media (mainly from men) complaining about her comments and they have intentionally tagged really unflattering photos of her (like midway through talking) to the post where they go on like she’s the devil incarnate.

Many, many male celebrities have preached the same stuff. I have teen DD’s and DSD’s who all have male celebrities they are fans of and I’ve heard of these celebrities saying the same stuff. That if you work hard and “hustle” you will succeed.

There’s also lots of self-help Instagram accounts that preach the same stuff. These accounts are popular with young lads and are ran by men and seem to be aimed at men. Often they focus on cars and how you can have your dream car just like the guy behind the account if you follow his advice, buy his breathing technique course and work hard bla bla bla. These people don’t seem to get crucified the way Molly Mae has done.

Also a lot of male rappers who are popular these days such as Aitch make it their whole brand to show off about how they are successful because they took a chance and work hard bla bla bla. Aitch is a rapper from a very rough area of Manchester who got a lucky break. Molly Mae is more middle class but she went to a comp school and wasn’t outrageously wealthy. She just wasn’t on the breadline, why should she apologise for that? One of Aitch’s song lyrics is “I’ve got your boyfriend’s monthly wage in my jeans.” (DD loves the song). Nobody has ever come after him for that.

It seems to me that:

A man from a non-celeb average background gets a lucky break and becomes famous and rich and tries to inspire his fans to work hard and do the same = amazing and down to earth and inspiring

A woman from a non-celeb average background gets a lucky break and becomes rich and famous and tries to inspire her fans to work hard and do the same = a silly thick little cow who is only good for her looks and should keep her mouth shut and know her place.

I honestly believe if her boyfriend had made the same comments nobody would have batted an eyelid.

I’ve no doubt she has worked hard the last few years, but she’s had a massive leg up from being on a reality show. She is tone death yes

Yes being a woman holds you back in some ways but get your body out and sell your looks it's a money spinner.

Assuming you have a “sellable” body which most women don’t.

But also, whilst society does create this opportunity for young women to get ahead on their looks, it doesn’t admire them for it.

She knows she has a platform, it was a podcast she said it on not a chat to mates that was unfairly leaked; she wanted her message to be heard and if people reacted positively to it of course she would be happy with that, negative is the flip side of that and part of any job.
Exactly, enough people have failed desperately forgetting to be humble speaking publicly, it was more than stupid wild assumptions about her successful financial situation in today's market.
I'm surprised she didn't know better.

I think everyone that makes that speech or similar is a twat, especially the male self made millionaires that are anything but SELF made.

MM 's speech was bullshit, especially considering that her big job that she's so proud of and sharing it a billion times, involves working for a company that pays it's workers £3.50 an hour in England ffs, broke lockdown rules and made their workers go in even when ill.Those people work harder than she ever will.

She's either stupid or a hypocrite or more than likely a little bit of both.

She's done more for endometriosis sufferers in her last 2 years than the government has ever done, raising awareness in young women.

Hope she can rise above the sexist backlash.

[quote BlisterConcern]@rrhuth.

Why not? Don’t famous premier league footballers just work a few hours a week but get paid astronomical salaries and are worshipped nationally?

Well, male footballers anyway. But that’s another thread.[/quote]
Pretty sure that premiership footballers work more than a couple of hours a week....

You know they do training etc?

I agree they are paid way too much

Never heard of her before, but I like her for this: Molly Mae had a cancerous melanoma removed not long ago and was brilliant at raising awareness for young people to never ignore moles and to always get them checked for cancer. She has endometriosis and used her platform to raise awareness of the condition, young girls are often conditioned to just put up with their chronic pain conditions.

And yes, of course she gets abuse because she's a woman.

Are you ok OP? You seem oddly obsessed with her, to the point where you’re ignoring the many valid points anyone is making and just going on and on about either endometriosis and sexism.

Her comments were very tone deaf. You haven’t given us any comparable examples of others who have had the same career and got away with saying the same thing. Ultimately, she went on TV because of her looks and used that to become an influencer. That’s hardly hard work or growing up in poverty and making it in the industry. She clearly has no idea of reality, hence why her comments have rubbed people up the wrong way. A young pretty white (very relevant due to her privilege and that she wouldn’t have had social setbacks in the industry) has said hey, all you have to do is work hard and you’ll make it. It highlights her sense of entitlement and also insensitivity, which is why she had wound many up the wrong way.

The abuse she has got has been unacceptable though, and it’s the usual hidden behind a computer trolls who have nothing better to do with their time.

@bloodyhoodedeyes

She's done more for endometriosis sufferers in her last 2 years than the government has ever done, raising awareness in young women.

Hope she can rise above the sexist backlash.

Completely agree.

OP please explore excision surgery vs ablation for your DD. Ablation can lead to further life long surgery, there are excision surgeons in the UK.

It’s similar to Kylie Kardashian being a “self made” millionaire or billionaire or whatever it was. The idea that someone who has no skills to get them where they are and had their fame handed to them on a plate is self made or worked hard to get to where they are is laughable.

I remember when Jessica Aldi broke into the movies, her interview was so thankful and grateful, how she was giving opportunities others did not have, she didn't big herself up, she acknowledged her privilege and luck.

@BlisterConcern

Have you listened to the full interview?

I'm not going to troll her online or anything, but she came across like a complete twat. It was actually quite sad, she looks down on her parents "ordinary" lives, and thinks friends are disposable.

Are premier footballers paid to much? If someone is making millions off your work (and there is a lot of work involved in becoming an elite athlete, they dont just rick up at matches and lick the ball around) then dont you have a right to a percentage of that money? Or to sell you skills tonthe highest bigger.

Molly Mae ran her mouth and is being mocked for it. Luckily for her if she just comes off social media for 48 hours, she can swerve all of it. By Wednesday next week she can be back up blathering shite to her following and working really hard.

Wtf? rock up kick the ball

It’s true that women often are held to a higher standard than men in some domains of public life. But that’s also true of virtually in any group which is usually in the minority in terms of representation in a specific position of power/influence. For example, it also holds true for racial minorities in power, people with non -mainstream political views in power, people from non-privileged backgrounds in power etc. That said, I’m not sure I’d make this the case to hang my hat on.

[quote BlisterConcern]@rrhuth.

Why not? Don’t famous premier league footballers just work a few hours a week but get paid astronomical salaries and are worshipped nationally?

Well, male footballers anyway. But that’s another thread.[/quote]
WTF?!? They don't work a few hours they dedicate their lives to training and dieting and playing.

They also do work incredibly hard to get to that level, millions want to be professional footballers but only a handful have the talent and drive to get to that level.

Molly worked hard by looking good and taking photos it's hardly the same thing!

@BlisterConcern

Marcus Rashford is likeable and realistic and kind though.

I’m not saying Molly Mae is a talented hard worker.

I’m saying that it’s common for male celebrities to go on about “hustling” and “hard work” to reap the rewards and nobody seems to come after them. They are praised for it!

5 minutes on Instagram and you will see some twatty Instagram account with some prick going on about all of his nice cars marketing to young boys that they need to get off their worse and work and they will be like him. These aren’t sports players either, they are influencers as well. Nobody has called these people out.

Give an example of someone please?

I think any male if the same level of fake as Molly would have been called out for exactly the same thing.

@ToykotoLosAngeles, she hit him with his mobile during a row. The 'lamp over the head' later proved to be false. It was never explained how she was cut during the row. The blood in the apartment turned out to be hers. Their's was a volatile relationship.

Influencing isn't a career for fucks sake. It's vacuous stupid people following other vacuous stupid people who by and large have no talent, who are just trying to sell them shit they don't need. This is really what society is reduced to.

"I think any male if the same level of fake as Molly would have been called out for exactly the same thing."

But interviewers are saying that they have said the same and haven't had the same backlash. She hasn't said anything that Tory MPs haven't said. They've told Nurses/care workers to just work smarter and told carers of relatives who have complex disabilities to do paid work. But that's ok.

@BlisterConcern

The backlash is ridiculous, over the top and undermining itself with it. She made a silly misguided comment and didn’t burn down a fucking orphanage.

A male influencer wouldn’t have gotten the same reaction, no way.

Giles Coren is a creepy journalist who made sexual comments about his 3 year old daughter, never seen that mentioned anywhere other than on Mumsnet. The was no national uproar.

Molly Mae makes a throwaway comment and the world implodes.

Am trying to think of many male influencers who just are pretty. Maybe gaz from Georgie shore? Sure he'd be lambasted if he said the same stuff.

Mark wright maybe but he does appear to work hard, training to be a sportsman /footballer last year and doing a fitness show on bbc2?

Plenty of people talk about endo now. The mp who was killed recently was campaigning in parliament for it.

Molly Mae is just a young person like any other, does some good stuff, says some dumb things, has no idea how lucky she is. She's not the most amazing person ever and she's not the most awful person ever, she just a 22 year old who has an awful lot to learn.

Hopefully she'll grow up and one day look back on the comments she made and realise how ridiculous she was and be embarrassed by them.

@Porcupineintherough

Are premier footballers paid to much? If someone is making millions off your work (and there is a lot of work involved in becoming an elite athlete, they dont just rick up at matches and lick the ball around) then dont you have a right to a percentage of that money? Or to sell you skills tonthe highest bigger.

Molly Mae ran her mouth and is being mocked for it. Luckily for her if she just comes off social media for 48 hours, she can swerve all of it. By Wednesday next week she can be back up blathering shite to her following and working really hard.

I think we're supposed to want all the billions that football generates to go back in the pockets of the Mike Ashleys and Ambramoviches of the world, so they can get richer off the back of young working-class men who grew up in actual poverty.

Apparently though if footballers got paid £3.50 an hour we'd all be ok with that because the owners are (almost all) men.

I know plenty of incredible businesswomen in my line of work. None of them have been on love island or are as commercially beautiful as her. But they have MBAs from Harvard, Oxbridge. etc Have raised millions in funding rounds, built businesses up from nothing, worked their socks off.

They have the same 24 hours in a day and work HARD. But do they have her success and her money? No.

It's the fact she conflates 'I work very hard and am successful' to EVERYONE should be able to be like me, you're just not working hard enough. She won the genetic lottery then got picked for a reality show.

It's not even her choice of words, she obviously believes this stuff on principle. The NHS nurse just isn't working hard enough? Just isn't talented enough?