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Original poster

If you were in a cafe having lunch...

337 replies

MargeSimpson00 · 07/01/2022 19:09

Would you mind someone at your table having an injection whilst sitting there?

  1. Person being injected is not in your party
  2. Not insulin or anything immediately life saving, a vaccination

YANBU- wouldn't mind
YABU- it's gross

OP posts:
Jediknight · 08/01/2022 20:32

Honestly as the parent of a child with diabetes who has to have up to six injections a day. This thread is not something I would have expeced to read. We have continued to eat in restaurants and whilst not making a big fuss we have encouraged our son to feel ok about needing to have an injection in public. Much better than the unhygenic environment of a washroom. We ask for a quiet table but thats not always possibe.

If this was a community vacination than also well done to the service and nurse and cafe for enabling that to happen. Perhaps in the only place that could be arranged or was comfortable for the person. I guess if you were taking so much notice than your own party / company could not have been that interesting. You could have offered to move.

Medical care is neither weird or gross sometimes it is heartbreaking. There is so much so called normality that people take for granted it is a crying shame that there is such a lack of care and such an abundance of criticism. My advice is avoid cafes with communal tables and stick to private booths or deliveroo.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 08/01/2022 21:05

The OP works in the cafe @Jediknight and customers complained. No one has said someone who is diabetic shouldn't be able to inject but this was a nurse giving a vaccination in a public place which is completely different and inappropriate, especially as she was offered a side room and was then rude to the OP.

To be fair it would make no difference to me whether it was your son or the nurse, I would still have to leave, but there is a huge difference between someone having time sensitive medical injections or a vaccine in a public place.

Lemondrizzlecakehaveyeanynuts · 08/01/2022 21:25

I once had a flu jab in the pub. This was many years ago. I would have been fine seeing this in a cafe as it takes seconds and it was presumably in the arm and nowhere indelicate.

Jeannie88 · 08/01/2022 22:47

Wouldn't bother me at all!

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 08/01/2022 22:50

having a vasectomy in Greggs

Mamanyt · 09/01/2022 00:17

I think it is bizarre, not knowing the exact circumstance (and probably would if I did know them), but not gross. If I had an issue with needles, turning my head for 5 seconds would fix that. No big deal. Odd, but no big deal.

Zotter · 09/01/2022 00:18

Wouldn't bother me.

Redshell · 09/01/2022 00:38

Its a vaccination, they save lives. If you have a problem, you can always eat elsewhere.

GlomOfNit · 09/01/2022 01:10

@Redshell

Its a vaccination, they save lives. If you have a problem, you can always eat elsewhere.
Oh don't be absurd! Grin Who on earth expects needles and vaccinations in a public cafe? It's hardly a common occurrence!

OP, I think you were doing your job (looking after the interests of both your customers and hygiene) and I think the nurse needs a bit of a chat with his or her line manager, because it's not really on, is it? Patients receiving medical procedures should have a degree of privacy unless in the sort of mass vaccination room we've all been in recently (and even there you have the option of more privacy) and bystanders who aren't in a medical setting have the right not to have these things done right in front of them. All the diabetics I've ever known do their insulin in cafes etc extremely discretely, not being attention-seekers.

MarvellousMonsters · 09/01/2022 08:17

@MargeSimpson00

Might as well tell the full story. I work in the cafe. Often nurses/delivery people/others will pop their head in and ask is mr/mrs X in here before they go knocking. Mr X was indeed there and nurse told him not to worry, she would do it there. Other customers complained so I politely asked the nurse to use a side room (literally 5 metres away). I was called a jobs worth Confused
I'd almost be tempted to make a complaint about the nurse, her behaviour was very unprofessional, this is an infection risk and all patients should have confidentiality and dignity. There's also a protocol for monitoring patients for 15 minutes or so after an injection, so to just pop in, stab and leave is wrong on so many levels.
HaveringWavering · 09/01/2022 08:27

How is it an infection risk @marvellousmonsters?

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 09/01/2022 08:43

If I had an issue with needles, turning my head for 5 seconds would fix that. No big deal. Odd, but no big deal.

If you had a needle phobia there’s a good chance that turning your head wouldn’t make any difference at all

MakeMineALarge1 · 09/01/2022 09:16

@MarvellousMonsters how is it an infection risk? Please tell me.

Cuck00soup · 09/01/2022 09:22

I think some people have missed that the cafe in this example is attached to a sheltered accommodation complex. It’s not a regular cafe.

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/01/2022 09:26

Wouldn’t bother me but I don’t have a problem with needles.

XenoBitch · 09/01/2022 11:43

@Cuck00soup

I think some people have missed that the cafe in this example is attached to a sheltered accommodation complex. It’s not a regular cafe.
OP has drip fed though. All this information should have been mentioned in the opening post.
Original poster
MargeSimpson00 · 09/01/2022 12:05

I tried to stay vague in the op so as not to out my workplace. Cafe is also open to the public is used by everyone so essentially is just a cafe, if the patient lived next door or in a flat above it would have been the same circumstances.

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Trident2125 · 09/01/2022 12:53

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Why2why · 09/01/2022 13:18

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

If I had an issue with needles, turning my head for 5 seconds would fix that. No big deal. Odd, but no big deal.

If you had a needle phobia there’s a good chance that turning your head wouldn’t make any difference at all

I have a huge needle phobia. Huge!!! I won’t even talk about the ridiculous things it has led me to do when doing blood tests, etc. A good episode for me would be tears and a bad one has been total mayhem.

However, seeing someone else getting a jab would be of no interest or issue for me.

zingally · 09/01/2022 13:36

Why would people be getting vaccinations in a cafe? There's clearly more to this story!

If it's insulin or something (a friend of mine doing IVF needed hormone shots at around lunchtime), then go for it! Completely none of my business.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 09/01/2022 13:44

@Trident2125

Tough landlord, need an advice! (My first post on mum's net)

My son ripped off a piece of wallpaper recently. I discussed it with my landlord and assured him that I am committed to fix it before my exit scheduled in the next month. He said it's a paintable wallpaper and so a matching paint has to be done for the entire wall, for which I got a quote of £100 from a handyman. Later he brought his builder and the builder quoted £400 to get the whole of living room painted.

Landlord insists to get it done by his builder and bear total cost which I am feeling heavy and never expected a small patch on one wall would lead me to get 4 walls painted. Now I am more worried what charges he will levy upon exit.
Any suggestions on what it feels like to you and what rights do I have as a tenant less than 2 years in the property! Appreciate everyone in advance.

THis is not a thread where people will see your post much.

You need to post in the property/landlord part or the money subforum for advice from knowledgeable people.

Maybe consider posting on MSE?

www.moneysavingexpert.com/

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 09/01/2022 13:45

Unfortunately for me @Why2why I wouldn’t be able to cope, I’d have to leave in a hurry! Even knowing it was happening would make me panic. When I had my vaccine and had the 15 minute wait afterwards I was looking at my watch every few seconds and DH had to make me stay as I was in a state because I knew what was going on (I was lying down behind a screen).

Pugroll · 09/01/2022 13:54

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

Unfortunately for me *@Why2why* I wouldn’t be able to cope, I’d have to leave in a hurry! Even knowing it was happening would make me panic. When I had my vaccine and had the 15 minute wait afterwards I was looking at my watch every few seconds and DH had to make me stay as I was in a state because I knew what was going on (I was lying down behind a screen).
The world doesn't revolve around you and your phobia though, that's why a lot of therapy etc doesn't focus on avoidance of it.
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 09/01/2022 14:03

I must have missed the part where I said the world did revolve around me @Pugroll. If you actually bothered to read my post I said I would leave. I was answering a previous poster who said she had a phobia and it wouldn’t bother her - all phobias are different so that’s not surprising.

thisismee · 09/01/2022 14:50

Under the circumstances of the type of cafe I think the person being injected maybe vulnerable, I'd be glad they were receiving the vaccine needed. I wouldn't have given it a second thought.

But I am very sad to read a few of the replies on this thread, my son has type one diabetes.. so yes I'm touchy over it.
can anyone imagine injecting a tiny two year old EVERY time they eat or drink and working out the carbohydrates in said food/drink. They may just need an extra dose of insulin to bring their blood sugar down because they are excited/stressed or feeling unwell?

It's stressful enough without Worrying about people staring thinking we should use a dirty toilet? No way. I openly inject him his insulin and would never hide him away. Type ones have insulin to keep them alive. Yea it may make you feel uncomfortable but you're not going to die from seeing it.

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