Molly Mae

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“that if you want something enough, you can achieve it”

“You’re given one life and it’s down to you what you do with it
. You can literally go in any direction. When I’ve spoken about that in the past I have been slammed a little bit, with people saying ‘it’s easy for you to say that because you’ve not grown up in poverty, so for you to sit there and say we all have the same 24 hours in a day is not correct.’ But, technically, what I’m saying is correct. We do.

“I understand we all have different backgrounds and we’re all raised in different ways and we do have different financial situations, but I think if you want something enough you can achieve it. It just depends on what lengths you want to go to get where you want to be in the future. And I’ll go to any length. I’ve worked my absolute arse off to get where I am now.”

Not someone id come across before, a reality star, who has said the above

is she being reasonable or not?

Molly Mae sounds like she’s been Mollycoddled all her life.

She’s so naive

Never heard of her, so just googled her. In reality what she is saying is 'get yourself on TV flaunting whatever you have to offer and you will make pots of money'.
Really you just need somebody to want to see you on TV - and people will approach you with more offers. Vacuous pastime - but serious and essential jobs can be done by others.
She is no intellect or philosopher that's for sure - or she'd realise pretty soon those in developing countries simply do not have the same opportunities even if they have the same 24 hours!

Plus, Beyoncé and indeed Molly Mae are conventionally very attractive in their own ways. Without that, no singing career, no influencer career.

She is being unreasonable.

All good luck to her and all, but this 'if you work hard enough you can do ANYthing, and you can achieve things I have' mantra just boils my piss.

It's suggesting that if you're often down on your luck, don't have any riches or assets ,and haven't gone far in life, it's because you 'haven't worked hard enough.' It's utter bollocks. People are dealt different hands in life, and as has been said before, 'we are all swimming in the same ocean, but some of us have much bigger, better boats.;

Some people have a better start in life, and more advantages too. Someone who is successful and wealthy has not necessarily 'worked their arse off 'any more than someone who is poor.

It would be something if she was someone from a very underprivileged background who was currently leading the way as a rising, brilliant cardiothoracic surgeon. Not a love island contestant who is measuring success in terms of money and media exposure.

@WheresMyAlex

I agree with her actually. Otherwise what message are we sending to young people living in poverty on council estates? Don’t bother trying because you can’t achieve anything as you don’t have the resources? Not true is it. We all measure success differently, would I want to be rich off the back of getting my kit off in tele and being a reality star? No, I grew up with parent and step parent that were alcoholic drug addicts, council house, benefits, neither worked a day. Now I’m happily married with a mortgage, three children. A career in healthcare that I love. That’s my success. It’s not all about money.

I believe that's the message she was trying to convey - she was speaking to Steven Bartlett so, realistically, people listening to the diaryofaceolive are probably looking for motivation to achieve more. It's that kind of podcast. SB succeeded against the odds.

I think she's naive in her delivery and has no real concept of her own privilege though. No concept of other people's 24 hour reality - life limiting illness, child carers, unpaid carers, crime, apathy and so on - and that IS partly her age. I reckon lots of us were blinkered at her age too and learned wisdom as we went along. It's not dissing the young, it's just a practical fact that we learn more empathy as we experience more. And maybe she will.

And she's got hoards of people desperate to see her fail. So many people refuse to accept that social selling isn't the future, its the now for "the youth" whether you agree with it or not

PLT - I have to agree the fast fashion thing is pretty awful though. She could influence in a more ethical business

@pengu

Plus, Beyoncé and indeed Molly Mae are conventionally very attractive in their own ways. Without that, no singing career, no influencer career.

Agree. Being beautiful is just another type of privilege. Would someone be able to get onto Love Island if they weren’t conventionally attractive? Doubtful. (I’ve no interest in Love Island and have never seen it but my understanding is that it is full of pretty people).

I think she meant it to be aspirational, but it doesn't hit the mark in my opinion. If she is claiming like for like, ie someone who grew up middle class, who is conventionally pretty, had financial security to be able to be pursue a career in social media and then be on the biggest show for her target demographic then sure. As that's not the case, no. Also technically although she has 24 hours in a day she has people managing different aspects of her life which if the time spent by others on her career was counted would exceed 24 hours.

I mean it's pretty similar to what Conor McGregor used to say in every interview as he was coming up the ranks and to when he really made it big and he didn't come from money/was on the Dole when he started out. He was applauded for it at the time (yes I know he's not a great role model now :P )

*I fully understand that those already coming from privilege have a massive advantage though

And here we are, 5 pages on, giving more exposure to some plasticised social media effluenter. But I'll chip in anyway.

She's talking out of her behind. Someone born in a mud hut in an African village is almost certainly not going to have the wherewithal to get a first at Cambridge, no matter how determined they might be.

The facts are simple. If you come from a privileged background you are more likely to be successful in life than if you do not. You can have all the determination in the world, but some things remain out of the reach of an awful lot of people who don't have wealth and privilege behind them.

She's an absolute idiot.

@DeliriaSkibbly

And here we are, 5 pages on, giving more exposure to some plasticised social media effluenter. But I'll chip in anyway.

She's talking out of her behind. Someone born in a mud hut in an African village is almost certainly not going to have the wherewithal to get a first at Cambridge, no matter how determined they might be.

The facts are simple. If you come from a privileged background you are more likely to be successful in life than if you do not. You can have all the determination in the world, but some things remain out of the reach of an awful lot of people who don't have wealth and privilege behind them.

This. ^

@Pugroll

I think she meant it to be aspirational, but it doesn't hit the mark in my opinion. If she is claiming like for like, ie someone who grew up middle class, who is conventionally pretty, had financial security to be able to be pursue a career in social media and then be on the biggest show for her target demographic then sure. As that's not the case, no. Also technically although she has 24 hours in a day she has people managing different aspects of her life which if the time spent by others on her career was counted would exceed 24 hours.

And this too. ^

As far as I know, she doesn't have a degree. Usually for creative director roles you require a degree and lots of work experience within the industry. Both of which she doesn't have, she got that job purely because of her name, not because she's worked her way up to it.

I’m surprised you have not heard of her op.

She epitomises a lot of what some young people aspire to nowadays. They don’t want a boring 9-5 job. They want to be famous on social media earning big bucks for doing not a lot.

@PurpleRainlnTheSky

She is being unreasonable.

All good luck to her and all, but this 'if you work hard enough you can do ANYthing, and you can achieve things I have' mantra just boils my piss.

It's suggesting that if you're often down on your luck, don't have any riches or assets ,and haven't gone far in life, it's because you 'haven't worked hard enough.' It's utter bollocks. People are dealt different hands in life, and as has been said before, 'we are all swimming in the same ocean, but some of us have much bigger, better boats.;

Some people have a better start in life, and more advantages too. Someone who is successful and wealthy has not necessarily 'worked their arse off 'any more than someone who is poor.

Yup to me this falls into the same utter bollcoks bucket as saying that people "lose their fight" with a terminal disease or that its possible to "fight" a terminal disease and win. Even the hardest effort in the world can only get you so far and anyone who says different is either a fool or a liar or both.

She’s famous for having sex on love island, her parents must be so proud… small minded, vacuous and ignorant. She’s a millionaire spouting garbage basically suggesting that everyone has equality of opportunity in life - obviously this is nonsense and very narrow minded.

No she’s not being reasonable. She fundamentally does not understand that some people are already ahead and are likely to stay ahead because of their background whether that be financial security a secure upbringing or family support.

She’s one of those people who thinks they’ve got where they are through hard work alone. She’s very blinkered. I remember her saying that she would have got the job as Creative Director of Pretty Little Things even had she not been on Love Island - of course she wouldn’t, they chose her because of her Love Island fans. If not her they would have chose another Love Island contestant or someone who actually worked in the industry previously.

How very different to the Arnold Schwarzenegger not a self made man speech
www.marketplace.org/2017/05/12/schwarzenegger-self-made-man-myth/amp/

I really don't want my DD to have sex on TV or be a so-called influencer. If this is what she wants to achieve, she's more than welcome. In 10 or 15 years, she'll be the next Katie Price, on her fourth or fifth husband, constantly having plastic surgeries as she is chasing her lost good looks (which are already barely there due to her heavy make-up and probable work done anyway).

She claims she's worked so hard. She got on tv which gave her the opportunities. Great for her but I'm not sure she can talk about 'working hard' to get where she is.

She seems very money orientated. Have seen another clip she says all she wants to do is work and earn money!

She obviously has no idea what it's like to struggle. She's probably had a comfortable upbringing.

We all have 24 hours but we all have a different 24 hours. She probably has cooks, cleaners and everything if she earns £600k a year.

for some people getting up and getting dressed is an achievement in 24 hours.

Beyoncé was a stupid argument. Beyoncé has a huge team of people around her every single day. She doesn't do it single handed -probably a bit like molly-mae!

Re people piling on ... I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't her whole aim. She's all over twitter and probably every other social media, getting thousands more followers so she can charge more for every product placement she does.

I think I’ll take my life advice from people who haven’t been fingerbanged on tv tbh.

I think she has had a good media run and so now its time for the crucifixion. I hate our media for that.

In terms of what she said, well its the sort of thing I thought when I was 22, until I came face to face with reality and how life isn't a Disney movie and that there are social and cultural, health and external factors at play.

It's bollocks, and the sort of stuff Tories are fond of trotting out. These are the kind of sentiments that might be true if we all started off on a level playing field, but that will never be the case.