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Molly Mae

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ivykaty44 · 07/01/2022 15:40

“that if you want something enough, you can achieve it”

“You’re given one life and it’s down to you what you do with it
. You can literally go in any direction. When I’ve spoken about that in the past I have been slammed a little bit, with people saying ‘it’s easy for you to say that because you’ve not grown up in poverty, so for you to sit there and say we all have the same 24 hours in a day is not correct.’ But, technically, what I’m saying is correct. We do.

“I understand we all have different backgrounds and we’re all raised in different ways and we do have different financial situations, but I think if you want something enough you can achieve it. It just depends on what lengths you want to go to get where you want to be in the future. And I’ll go to any length. I’ve worked my absolute arse off to get where I am now.”

Not someone id come across before, a reality star, who has said the above

is she being reasonable or not?

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Omicrone · 07/01/2022 16:07

She is from Hitchin which is a very Naice Town in Hertfordshire so it's unlikely she grew up in any sort of poverty.

She did have a 'career' as an influencer before Love Island, and to be fair its actually quite hard work to make any money out of Instagram, you do have to be quite tenacious and make your mark when there are literally thousands of others like you out there. Obviously Love Island opened most of the doors she has access to now though. I'm sure she feels like she has worked hard though, it does take a certain sort of personality to make it in social media.

I agree though that she should go to the sweatshops of PLT and start wanging on at the people working there about how 'we all have the same 24 hours' or whatever bollocks she was saying.

TorySteller · 07/01/2022 16:09

Incredibly narrow minded. I have a feeling that she’ll look back on that interview in 10-20 years and cringe at her naivety.

It’s easy to be a guest on a podcast and talk about how successful you are and how hard you work - it’s more difficult to publicly stand up for what’s right and demand better working conditions for the people who make garments, or to advocate for a reduction in fast fashion altogether.

I despise the current influencer culture and strongly believe that it should be more highly regulated.

There are some brilliant influencer role models out there for young people, but the amount of influencers who just take pictures of themselves wearing fast fashion made by people earning less than minimum wage, or film YouTube hauls, and call it ‘Hard Work’ are contributing to a society that’s completely image-obsessed, must buy a new outfit for every occasion or night out, and are drowning in debt to pay for it all.

WheresMyAlex · 07/01/2022 16:13

I agree with her actually. Otherwise what message are we sending to young people living in poverty on council estates? Don’t bother trying because you can’t achieve anything as you don’t have the resources? Not true is it.
We all measure success differently, would I want to be rich off the back of getting my kit off in tele and being a reality star? No, I grew up with parent and step parent that were alcoholic drug addicts, council house, benefits, neither worked a day. Now I’m happily married with a mortgage, three children. A career in healthcare that I love. That’s my success. It’s not all about money.

ivykaty44 · 07/01/2022 16:15

It’s actually disgusting how desperate people are to stick the boot in.

but is that what Molly Mae is doing? to all those working hard and not achieving, just barely getting by - striving for a better life but not getting their regardless

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sbhydrogen · 07/01/2022 16:16

There are some people who will never "be successful", but she's not not wrong. There are plenty of people who come from nothing to create businesses worth 100s of thousands of not millions, but success is also being able to have a roof over your head, food on the table and feel good.

I think there's a lot of bitter people out there. Nothing comes from nothing.

Superhanz · 07/01/2022 16:17

@GirlInACountrySong

did she grow up in an affluent household? I didnt think she did

Ive always quite liked her, but admittedly,dont know much about her. she's done well for herself from what I do know though

Yes, she grew up with wealthy parents.
Sonex · 07/01/2022 16:18

so she's 22 and been on a tv reality show? how is that "working your ass off" ?

AdmiralCain · 07/01/2022 16:18

I spend 10 hours a day working hard so the managing Director of my company buys a second house and the deputy MD can buy a Porsche...
41.6% of my day goes towards making other people richer. Factor in a paltry 6 hours sleep say another 25% of my day
If Molly can tell me what to do with 33.4% of my day to be a millionaire I'd really appreciate that...

alienalan · 07/01/2022 16:19

She has no right to preach in my opinion and is incredibly naiive

She's only 22. She went on love island. She's pretty and looks good in a thong . She
Hooked up with Tyson Fury's brother and together they are semi famous with a strong social flowing.

Thats what helped her gained the insta following . Nothing to do with hard work, intellect or entrepreneurial acumen. Looks, luck and a good agent

Mulhollandmagoo · 07/01/2022 16:20

Yes, we all have the same 24hrs in a day, but we all have different restrictions on our time! Some people have disabilities and chronic illnesses, or young children, or caring responsibilities or mental health issues - all of which factor in how we manage our time, so in that respect I think it's a bit of a thoughtless thing to say.

She got a huge leg up because of love Island, she wouldn't be where she is now without that show, your average Jo Wouldn't be able to be the creative director of a multi million dollar company in their early 20's without her huge social media platform gained from LI, so I don't think it's all down to hard work and nothing else.

So yes, I do absolutely think she is being unreasonable, but I also think a lot of what she says comes from a concoction of privilege and immaturity, and I think when she looks back on the interview in years to come she will be mortified with herself.

Pumperthepumper · 07/01/2022 16:20

@ivykaty44

It’s actually disgusting how desperate people are to stick the boot in.

but is that what Molly Mae is doing? to all those working hard and not achieving, just barely getting by - striving for a better life but not getting their regardless

No. I don’t think she named anyone personally, did she?

She said a stupid, naive comment. Do you think she deserves this grief for that?

needmoreshinys · 07/01/2022 16:21

She is wrong.

Take 2 people the same age, have 3 kids each both work 8 hours a day
1 is on the breadline, so works, looks after the kids, cleans and cooks
The other has a nanny, cleaner and cook.

Both have 24 hours in a day, but one has more time

SovietSpy · 07/01/2022 16:21

This article in the independent covers the story well and why a lot of people feel her comments were out of order

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/molly-mae-hague-influencers-love-island-b1988690.html

accidentlygothereagain · 07/01/2022 16:21

She is the prime example of pretty privilege. She went on a reality TV show, became successful on social media, and now is the creative director of a fast fashion brand known for paying its garments makes £3.50 an hour.

I think her perception of life is awful. I'm not saying she doesn't work hard. But - she's being unreasonable. She's had life very easy and a lot of it was luck.

She has not worked from the bottom to the top. And her white upper middle class background speaks volumes.

eagerlywaitingfor · 07/01/2022 16:22

She's wrong. Some people simply cannot be good enough, no matter how hard they try. You might yearn to be a (for instance) a champion golfer or to win X-Factor, and go to the ends of the earth to try and achieve it, but if you don't have enough natural talent you will not succeed in your ambition. It doesn't matter how much you want it, you still have to be good enough.

Mummy10197 · 07/01/2022 16:22

I wouldn’t class going on Love Island and being thrown hundreds of brand deals ‘working my ase off’. People who work every hour under the sun just to make sure there’s bread on the table for their kids work their ase off. Not being offered £1 million deal to put some clothes on and get photos. So so out of touch with the real world, it’s sad

Fleabaggy · 07/01/2022 16:22

I found my people on the reddit anti work sub.

99% of the jobs most people have are complete and utter worthless bullshit. Unless you're a HCP, teacher, artist or similar then you're either exploiting someone else or you're being exploited.

I see absolutely no merit in working "hard". None. What constitutes hard work anyway? I have to have a job, because capitalism, but my joy and my self worth comes from reading, time spent with family, cooking, walks in nature, rest. To enjoy those things I have to have money. Shouldn't be that way, there you are though.

The jobs that are most essential to society are the ones most sneered at.

Exhausteddog · 07/01/2022 16:24

Often (but obviously not always) success is the result of background, privilege, contacts and networking , luck, opportunity, natural talent, ability or intellect (and in this case, probably looks), ambition as well as hard work.

Often people want to attribute it all to hard work because they think if you mention any of the other aspects, you are denying they have worked hard. I think its often a combination of things.

alienalan · 07/01/2022 16:24

But having slagged her off, i do kind of admire her self belief and confidence. Id like my daughter to have that rhat but to apply herself in a different way

ExcuseeeeMe · 07/01/2022 16:24

She actually mentions in the interview that she gets backlash every time she says we all have the same 24 hours of Beyoncé . But she stands by it. So I guess it’s not the first time she has been told how offensive and wrong she is .

Bluebluemoon · 07/01/2022 16:25

I thought she was famous for being Tommy (brother of Tyson) fury's girlfriend or something?

I don't know much about her but her comments sound quite naive.

It's great that she has a positive attitude and she's trying to spread that "reach for the stars" mentality to her fans however those of us who are older and wiser know that it's basically hogwash.

It Always helps to try and have a positive attitude of course but then it's easy for me to say that when sat on my wealthy/healthy/MC privileged arse.
I would never preach to someone when I don't know their background or struggles.

Fleabaggy · 07/01/2022 16:25

Often (but obviously not always) success is the result of background, privilege, contacts and networking , luck, opportunity, natural talent, ability or intellect (and in this case, probably looks), ambitionas well ashard work.

Also, "success" is an arbitrary societal concept. It's meaningless.

Generally speaking when people mean successful they mean earns lots of ££££. Which says it all tbh.

Tal45 · 07/01/2022 16:25

Didn't she also say that homeless people should buy a house. She's obviously completely clueless. She gets paid stupid money to be a show pony for a company that pays it's other workers £3.50 an hour.

No not everyone has the same advantages Molly Mae, for a start most people's looks wouldn't be up to landing them a spot on Love Island. Miss below average looks isn't going to get on there no matter how many hours a day she puts in.

Isonthecase · 07/01/2022 16:26

We've all got the same 24 hours as Beyonce but I bet Beyonce isn't wasting a load of hers doing things like cleaning, arguing kids in to school uniform, and cooking dinners is she? That's like saying you can get as much done in economy as in business class on a plane and ignoring the amount of time and energy and physical effect it has on the person.

BooksAndGin · 07/01/2022 16:26

She has no right to preach. She also lacks a lot of understanding about how the world works.
How she's an influencer and people follow someone like her... is truly beyond me. Hmm