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Daily Fail and Duchess of Sussex

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JingleBeth · 26/12/2021 14:49

Just saw this half way down the home page of the Daily Mail. Clearly it’s a part of the settlement agreed after Meghan’s success in the courts.

This isn’t a thread about Meghan, it’s more the Daily Mail trying to hide this in their homepage and so trying to bring attention to it!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10340951/The-Duchess-Sussex.html

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BringBackThinEyebrows · 29/12/2021 17:50

@PinkWednesdays I was querying if there's a source for the following statement:

I think it's fascinating that because of the case William has been proven to be aware / behind a lot of the leaks and negative Palace briefings against Meghan.

Based on your comment, there is zero evidence for that allegation. Thanks for debunking it.

PinkWednesdays · 29/12/2021 17:58

Based on your comment, there is zero evidence for that allegation. Thanks for debunking it

Do you realise how much you’re reaching with that comment?

eveningbubble · 29/12/2021 18:44

no takers on my question then? surely someone has answer

eveningbubble · 29/12/2021 18:44

*an answer

BringBackThinEyebrows · 29/12/2021 18:48

@PinkWednesdays I asked for the proof to support the allegation that William is behind a lot of the leaks and negative Palace briefings against Meghan.

You said:
Look at the evidence of Edward Verity in the trial. He admitted to meeting with a “senior member of the royal family”. Could be anyone from the Queen to William, but there were definitely leaks from the Royal Family.

I think you were referring to this story, is that right?

You incorrectly stated that "He admitted to meeting with a “senior member of the royal family”". What Edward Verity's witness statement actually said was he had a meeting with “senior member of the royal household”. There's absolutley no suggestion that there's a link to William.

That singular meeting you refer to as evidence in your campaign against ar William 'revealed Meghan’s former PR team was working to “open doors” for Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand, who released the biography Finding Freedom last summer.' After denying all involvement with Finding Freedom, Meghan apologised to the Court of Appeal when she remembered she actually had a lot of involvement with the Finding Freedom book.

So again, thanks for debunking!

Roussette · 29/12/2021 18:51

I'm not sure I'd be linking to royal dot uk as a confirmed source of anything that happens, they can say what they want can't they?

PinkWednesdays · 29/12/2021 18:58

@BringBackThinEyebrows

I referred you to one story. ONE! A single story, to open your eyes to other possibilities. And because you feel that single source isn’t enough it debunks the entire theory?

Do you honestly realise how you sound? Especially with the nature of your own posts? You come across obsessed.

BringBackThinEyebrows · 29/12/2021 18:58

@Roussette

I'm not sure I'd be linking to royal dot uk as a confirmed source of anything that happens, they can say what they want can't they?
I was showing that 'The Royal Household' is different to 'The Royal Family' Smile

The Royal Household are staff members who provide support for The Royal Family.

PinkWednesdays · 29/12/2021 18:59

@eveningbubble

You want someone to answer why they like Meghan? Why does anyone like or dislike anyone? It’s a personal preference. There’s no right or wrong answer.

BringBackThinEyebrows · 29/12/2021 19:01

[quote PinkWednesdays]@BringBackThinEyebrows

I referred you to one story. ONE! A single story, to open your eyes to other possibilities. And because you feel that single source isn’t enough it debunks the entire theory?

Do you honestly realise how you sound? Especially with the nature of your own posts? You come across obsessed.[/quote]
When someone states, "William has been proven...", it's not unreasonable to ask for that proof. I didn't ask for a reference to an irrelevant story.

I sound like someone who makes judgement based on evidence Smile

PinkWednesdays · 29/12/2021 19:01

@BringBackThinEyebrows

Just re-read your comment. My campaign against William? What campaign against William??

FrippEnos · 29/12/2021 19:03

Roussette
I'm not sure I'd be linking to royal dot uk as a confirmed source of anything that happens, they can say what they want can't they?

The same can be said for H&M's sources

Lndnmummy · 29/12/2021 19:05

@Xenia

It has been a complicated issue - eg the British royals have that com,pact with the press where they will show the new baby to the press right away in return for being left alone to an extent. Prince Harry chose not to do that and has sought to leave the royal family whilst living off the publicity of the royal family so it is quite a complicated position he and his wife have put themselves into but I am sure the royal family like all families hope all the cousins can meet and I wonder if perhaps the children should go to school in England at some stage to keep connections up.
The reaon they did not have photos at the hopsital was that they were not offered any security. The Cambridges and their children have titles which come with security and protection. No one can expect a new mother (a black mother) who had been racially abused and exposed in the media to agree those same hyenas to take images of her newborn baby with no protection and security.
Mofomo · 29/12/2021 19:05

Evening bubble, why do people like the queen? Just wondering

Roussette · 29/12/2021 19:11

The same can be said for H&M's sources

Not sure H&M can control the BP like the RF do. They have a relationship. H&M don't have that with the BP. (british press)

Royal dot uk is a mouthpiece for the RF.

Courcheval · 29/12/2021 19:13

I wondered why PW was trending on Twitter today, crazy stuff but does go some way to possibly explain why it was open season on MM.

FWIW I think all the RF are complete spongers. Firm republican here!

BringBackThinEyebrows · 29/12/2021 19:17

[quote PinkWednesdays]@BringBackThinEyebrows

Just re-read your comment. My campaign against William? What campaign against William??[/quote]
A campaign of misinformation and negativity.

Someone falsely claimed that "William has been proven to be aware / behind a lot of the leaks and negative Palace briefings against Meghan."

You responded to my request for a source with something that has nothing to do with ar William. Your 'source' certainly opened my eyes to the fact you are spreading misinformation about Prince William.

FrippEnos · 29/12/2021 19:19

@Roussette

The same can be said for H&M's sources

Not sure H&M can control the BP like the RF do. They have a relationship. H&M don't have that with the BP. (british press)

Royal dot uk is a mouthpiece for the RF.

But we are not talking about control of the press, although H&M seem to do a good job of that.

and you are ignoring the 'a friend said' or Scobie being their mouth piece. and the Oprah 'interview'.

PinkWednesdays · 29/12/2021 19:21

@BringBackThinEyebrows

But where is your evidence of my “campaign”?

And where have I spread misinformation about Prince William, when I specifically didn’t refer to him alone?

Roussette · 29/12/2021 19:22

The same can be said for H&M's sources

How?

As I said, they don't control the BP (british press) in any way, shape or form

I'm not ignoring anything, I'm talking about the press, as we all were.

Glassteacups · 29/12/2021 19:28

They are ALL dreadful. The RF are toxic and dysfunctional and not surprised H and M wanted to leave. Andrew is a disgusting individual and more should have been said to condemn him by his close relatives.

H comes across as a weak, self centred, entitled, spoilt man baby. M appears self centred and self serving in the extreme and also a liar - so much of what she said in the Oprah interview was shown to be untrue. And the timing of their outburst - when Prince Philip was dying - was disgraceful. For people who go on and on about mental health they only se concerned about their own.

I feel like they all deserve each other tbh.

rubicscubicle · 29/12/2021 19:43

@eveningbubble

why do people actually like her, wondering?
A lot of people like Meghan because she had been an upstanding citizen of this world long before she met Harry.

Her achievements include :

  • Counsellor for international charity One Young World.
Participating in the One Young World 2014 Summit in which she joined a panel for the 'Bridging the Gap' session.
  • Advocate for Political Participation and Leadership - UN women.
  • global ambassador for World Vision, the world’s largest international children’s charity.
  • Raised awareness by travelling to Rwanda in 2016 with World Vision to see first-hand the importance of clean water.
  • Raised awareness by going to India with World Vision in 2017, focusing on gender equality and particularly girls access to education.
  • Worked alongside the Myna Mahila Foundation focusing on stigma surrounding menstruation & how that can directly inhibits women from pursuing an education.
Read Meghan’s article on the Myna Mahila Foundation for TIME here: time.com/4694568/meghan-markle-period-stigma/
  • Participated in USA Network’s ‘I wont stand for’ campaign .
In her case this was "I won't stand for racism"
  • between the ages of 13-17, volunteered at a soup kitchen in Skid Row, Los Angeles.
Meghan continued to volunteer at the soup kitchen when she would return home to LA until the age of 22. The producer of Suits also says she proposed that they donate the set food to the homeless (which they did). On top, In 2014, Meghan/The Tig partnered with BRIKA to develop a capsule collection with proceeds going to Feeding America & Second Harvest. Second Harvest was also an organisation which Meghan worked with to pick up & deliver leftover food from the “suits” set to local soup kitchen.
  • In 2013, spoke on the movement to stop discrimination, focusing on the gender pay gap.
  • Volunteered with the Glass Slipper Project during her university years. An organisation that collects donated dresses for teenagers who are unable to buy their own prom attire.
  • In 2016 hosted the Watercolour Project Event at LUMAS gallery in Toronto - paintings were made by students in Rwanda and ended up raising enough money to build a well through the help of World Vision.
  • In 2015, Meghan hosted the Women in Cable Telecommunications Signature Luncheon at McCormick Place - Chicago, Illinois. This luncheon is a premier industry event where distinguished leaders come together in support of women in the cable industry.

Other causes that Meghan has supported, raised awareness on and was guest speaker or wrote about :

  • Visited Afghanistan with the United Service Organisations (USO) which supports the military and their families.
  • Supporteed the Novak Djokovic Foundation 2013
The Novak Djokovic Foundation focuses on Early Childhood Education and Early Childhood Development.
  • Wrote an essay titled “I'm More Than An 'Other,'" for Elle Magazine on her bi-racial ethnicity in 2015
  • Supported the Dove Self-Esteem Project event in 2015 aimed at helping young people all around the world build positive body confidence and self-esteem.

Some people like that she has had her own personal achievements as a woman (and for some especially as a woman of colour, and all the obstacles they have to overcome )

  • The Tig had over 2M followers
  • She was a freelance calligrapher and bookbinder, getting work from the famous brands and weddings for celebrities
  • She had her own clothing line at a famous Canadian shop Reitmans (some kind of Debenhams etc.)
  • Also fluent in Spanish and French
  • Back in 1996 she wrote a children's book

I think the real question is : Why do some people dislike her so much ?

emuloc · 29/12/2021 19:50

rubicscubicle. Excellent post.

Lndnmummy · 29/12/2021 19:52

@rubicscubicle say it again, louder!!! For all the people in thw back!!

debbrianna · 29/12/2021 20:00

I think Meghan is interesting to see how she interacts. Not boring at all. I love her confidence and Meghan exudes it in abundance.