Daily Fail and Duchess of Sussex

[JingleBeth]

Just saw this half way down the home page of the Daily Mail. Clearly it’s a part of the settlement agreed after Meghan’s success in the courts.

This isn’t a thread about Meghan, it’s more the Daily Mail trying to hide this in their homepage and so trying to bring attention to it!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10340951/The-Duchess-Sussex.html

@ShinyHappyPoster

We don't have a free press for as long as the UK media sucks up to the Windsors This doesn't make any sense at all. If you think the RF have the most influence on the MSM (and it's not the UK media since much of the media in the Uk is internationally owned and privacy cases affect all media not just the Daily Mail) then you are very much mistaken. The largest users of court cases to silence the media are businesses, politicians and actors/musicians/celebrities. I'm not a monarchist but it's wilfully misguided to think the RF are the main barrier to a free and open democratic press in the UK.

Except that nowhere in my post did I make these points. I never suggested the Windsors were the only culprits, or that they are the main barrier to a free press, or that the remainder of the establishment are not equally culpable.

I merely pointed out that the Windsors exert a good deal of undue influence over the UK press. This is true. Overseas media clearly shows this; it's also true to say privacy laws vary from country to country no matter who owns a particular newspaper group.

On an unrelated point, a lot of posters seem surprisingly intent on justifying their news-reading habits to others. If that's coming from the assumption that the 'quality' dailies are any better, then as far as I can see many of these are equally as toxic, judgemental and unpleasant as the Mail. They're just slightly less transparent about it. Better to get your news from a cross-section of the media and read every bit of if with a critical eye and the knowledge that they all have a political axe to grind of one colour or another.

Just at present the Grauniad's the one which, to me, has turned into the biggest let-down imaginable.

@Notmoresugar you dont know them. And yes you are posting incredibly hostile personal attacks. Unless you are a member of the Rf posting here, you are making things up about strangers.

Does anyone really and truly care about this ? The DM have done what they were legally required to do, no more, no less.

The Court's judgement was widely reported in the media. Move on.

It doesn’t matter what attitude you have when reading the Mail, you’re still a reader whether you’re reading in faux outrage or because you see it as a ‘truth portal’ whatever the heck that is.

@Dillydilly01 given how many people are posting on this thread I think some people do care.

Why are you driving traffic to their site, OP? You should have posted a screenshot.🙄

@Dillydilly01 what made you care to comment?

@Dillydilly01

Does anyone really and truly care about this ? The DM have done what they were legally required to do, no more, no less.

The Court's judgement was widely reported in the media. Move on.

@Dillydilly01Yes. I do.

A free press is a hugely important cornerstone of any democratic society. In an ideal world, it shines a spotlight on corruption. This doesn't happen in as many cases as it should, but it's still a crucial function.

The press can hold to account dictatorial leaders, political corruption, and issues like cash for honours/questions. It can stop the wrong people having too much power and influence, even though I'm the first to acknowledge that this doesn't always happen the way it should.

The media has a unique ability to exert a high degree of influence on readers and listeners. This puts it in the position of enormous power, and makes our broadcasters and news reporters custodians of huge privilege. They are under an obligation to treat this power and privilege responsibly, and have particular codes and ethics of conduct by which they should abide.

That's why, when they refuse to take this responsibility seriously or abide by these ethics, they need very strongly bringing to book.

A relentless, unending campaign of bullying and spite against one woman with whom been possessed of an irrational, obsessional dislike, is a gross abuse of that privilege. This is not in any way okay.

@RoyalFamilyFan

Why do MN allow so many personal attacks on Meghan and Harry that are made up? People on here don't know them, so the personal attacks are fantasies. And if anyone did the same about William and Kate they would be deleted and banned.

Are you new here? There are lots of threads with personal attacks about William and Kate too. In fact, advance search some of the posters on here and you'll easily find them. There are some posters who attack everyone and there are some posters who hilariously (considering I assume they're adults) are a bit Mean Girls about the RF. They seem to think if they like Harry and Meghan they need to attack William and Kate; and vice versa. Of course, they're completing ignoring that everyone involved in this in RL (ie Meghan, Harry, William and Kate) has asked their 'supporters' not to attack the others. It's almost like the mania around the Beatles and the Stones and their competing fan bases ... or Blur and Oasis ... it's definitely one of the strangest celebrity fan base battles. I'm sure there will be someone somewhere writing a thesis on why middle-aged, middle-class women (MN's main demographic) are so passionately devoted to arguing about rich people who don't know they exist. If you advance search the names, you'll see just how prolific some posters are in 'defence' of their 'side'. It's fascinating ... and also slightly worrying. Where does 'fandom' tip into 'mania'?

@GoodPrincessWenceslas

Wow, two QCs and two juniors on each side plus expensive solicitors. The Mail's costs liability is going to be phenomenal. What a shame.

The Guardian reports it as £1.5 million before the appeal, plus whatever the appeal cost as well.

OP, I've been called a DM reader a few days ago. I reflected on that and haven't read it since. It's day 6 and I might lapse, but you can get the same info elsewhere. Plus I have more time in the morning without it :)

I'm sure there will be someone somewhere writing a thesis on why middle-aged, middle-class women (MN's main demographic) are so passionately devoted to arguing about rich people who don't know they exist. If you advance search the names, you'll see just how prolific some posters are in 'defence' of their 'side'. It's fascinating ... and also slightly worrying. Where does 'fandom' tip into 'mania'?

😆 It is fascinating, I think some see the RF as their own family & it's gets very personal.

Each click and share is raising their value! You’re basically advertising them and thus increasing the value of each portion of advertising space. Stop it.

No, you stop it. This is nonsense, given the sheer amount of traffic they have, sending a link here makes little difference.

There are lots of threads with personal attacks about William and Kate too.

There have been far, far more, and more hideous posts about Meghan.

Even if you were to be able to do an AS which would give you a split of posts per person, most of Meghan’s are deleted (eventually) because they generally are (often not so) subtly racist.

MarieIVanArkleStinks

And yet it is the same media that has uncovered that what H&M have said is not entirely the truth

It was a pyrrhic victory to be sure.
She won, and I agree that newspapers shouldn't print private letters, but in the process she had to admit she had had input in to the book she'd denied she'd been involved in.
So it's hardly a victory. I'm embarrassed for her that she made that statement afterwards

I totally agree with this, a hollow victory I think

It was a pyrrhic victory to be sure. She won, and I agree that newspapers shouldn't print private letters, but in the process she had to admit she had had input in to the book she'd denied she'd been involved in. So it's hardly a victory. I'm embarrassed for her that she made that statement afterwards

This is what I was trying to bold!

[quote pluggee]@Dillydilly01 what made you care to comment? [/quote]
Just baffled as why anyone would even give a second thought to where the DM published their acknowledgement of the Court judgement.

Do people expect that it should be a front page headliner ? Really ?

Horrible paper. Good result.

@Dillydilly01 some people do care as shown on the thread. I just don't see why you are criticising others for caring when simultaneously caring about how others react.

DM posted something private DoS admitted she is a liar. Hardly anything to be proud of.

I don't really like her but DM is a fascist piece of crap, that much is certain. Never understood why they started the hate campaign against her, thus only bringing the couple more together as in "against all". She's clearly manipulated a young man who's not the smartest cookie in the jar and definitely not street smart into a relationship and the whole hate campaign only helped her isolating him from his family while being able to use the aristocratic title. Win win situation for her, he's the loser.

All the clicks will bring them ad revenue!

@caringcarer

DM posted something private DoS admitted she is a liar. Hardly anything to be proud of.

Was it about privacy?

I thought that it was about copyright as they had the letter published elsewhere.

I think it's fascinating that because of the case William has been proven to be aware / behind a lot of the leaks and negative Palace briefings against Meghan.

Also worth noting that William's pr chief (gave evidence against Meghan and ended up proving aspects of her case) was the one who persuaded her to engage with Finding Freedom. The emails the Palace leaked showed she was reluctant but the same team working with the press against her encouraged her. Now because the book wasn't the expected hatchet job, it's spun as every line was directly dictated by Meghan.

Another Meghan bashing thread
I’m so glad she won and to top it off the photos this week of seriously cute Lilibet and Archie with Harry looking the happiest I’ve seen him were perfect!