No bathroom bin

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If you are at relatives house with no bathroom bins where do you put your used sanitary stuff? I've been wrapping my tampons putting in handbag and putting them in the outside bin. I would always empty the bathroom bin and my periods are very heavy so need changing frequently., SIL isnt menopausal even my dad who lives alone has bathroom bins ??!!

Also their own tea bags, coffee, loo roll, tissues, plus little baggies to dispose of all of that in...

Or if staying at someone's for a spell, bring their own towels and sheets, because items other people have used on bare skin or containing bodily fluids should only be dealt with by a hazmat team, sanpro in particular, because there is nothing as filthy and unmentionable and more of an imposition on polite society. It's so horrible that you can't even think about it.

Even been caught out when visiting and needed sanpro? Tried to use loo roll instead, ended up leaving and trying to get home before your clothes were stained?

you definitely shouldn't be sticking cotton buds down your ears anyway

But do your ears not get itchy otherwise? I know you're not "supposed" to use them but they get the wax out and stop the discomfort.

The alternative is pouring oil down

@limitedperiodonly

I said it deliberately, because straight after I posted that I had misunderstood your comment due to my autism, you posted this, which I cannot see in any other way than mocking me for misunderstanding:

I also resolve to be clearer in my posts to eliminate the possibility of misinterpretation.

Add that to your unpleasant comments about colostomy bags ("hostess with the mostess" and why you even introduced this subject at all) and I'm afraid you're coming across as a bit of a dick.

Anyway, I keep loads of things in my house that guests might need but I don't - San pro is one, tomato ketchup, razors, coffee, loads of alcoholic drinks I don't drink plus their mixers etc, milk (for tea etc, I drink mine black), a craft basket for kids. Then tons of stuff I have spare of like toothbrush, hairdryer, towels.....and so on.

And no, I rarely blow my nose on looroll. I mean, I would if my nose was running and I was in the bathroom, but that's like a one in ten chance. I use tissues. I have a box in each room. Including the spare bedroom, you know, for guests! If your nose runs in the living room or in bed at night, you go to the bathroom to get looroll to blow it? Seems a bit odd to me.

And no, I don't stick cotton buds in my ears and no they don't itch as a result of that.

[quote mathanxiety]@RussiasGreatestLoveMachine, tissues are not for flushing - they don't break down and they cause problems in the sewers.[/quote]
That’s the one thing you took away from my post.

Relax - we only have loo paper in the bathroom - the tissues are in the kitchen and living room, so people will either put them in their pocket or put them in the kitchen bin.

@mathanxiety there is nothing mocking in my tone merely your interpretation of it. I cannot help that but would like to assure you that I am always deadly serious.

You seem very interested in me and my husband and our domestic arrangements. I've been happy to give information so far but now feel that you are becoming fixated on us. I'm not worried for us but feel you are wasting your precious headspace on unworthy people.

Perhaps you have a burning need to win an argument. It's nice to be right but the insistence upon it is not always the quality that wins hearts and minds. Many issues are a matter of opinion. I'd say bathroom bins and the supply and disposal of sanitary protection and condoms fall under that category.

Where do you stand on the supply and disposal of condoms by the way? I've mentioned them a few times but you haven't picked up on them which seems an oversight. If there's one thing we have in common is that we are focused on details.

Condoms seem to be a male item, don't they? Certainly in male same-sex couples. But in PIV (penis in vagina) sex they are of importance to women both from a contraceptive and safe sex perspective. Women, especially young sexually active women who may have multiple male partners should use them. Actually I feel foolish typing that. Obviously you buy them and put them with your guest sanpro basket and forgot to mention it. Do you have a favourite brand?

I never think of them, not having need of them. Like the morning-after pill. You can get that over the counter in British pharmacies now but not in Northern Ireland. Another essential when thinking of the comfort of female guests.

But anyway thanks to you I've realised that if I'm going to buy sanpro and the morning after pill for female visitors my husband should do his bit and buy condoms for passing male guests. I've never given it much thought but I must ask him when he wakes up.

Anyway, that said I would still not like to find a bloody tampon or a bag of jizz with a knot in it in my bathroom bin and my husband would be right behind me.

You know you can buy little pedal bins that close? And liners? You don't have to look at what's in the bin, just open it, grab the liner, tie it closed, and Bob's your uncle.

It's nice to be right but the insistence upon it is not always the quality that wins hearts and minds.

Yes, it certainly is nice to be right.

There's no accounting for the incorrigible dismissal of the smallest sense of obligation to others when hospitality is so easy to accomplish, but I'll keep on plugging away, fighting the good fight, etc. You haven't reached a Damascene moment yet, but who knows...

Of course you should supply condoms if you believe your guests might need them, along with sanpro, enough bath towels for everyone under your roof, sheets and bedding for spare beds, and all the rest of the items you and your husband might not need but would make a difference to the comfort of other people.

As a tip, I have personally found it very useful to keep a few spare toothbrushes handy for the people who put theirs back in their own bathrooms and leave for their plane, also spare anti-perspirant/deodorant. I don't use a hairdryer myself, but I have one in the bathroom in case someone staying prefers not to dry their hair au naturel.

@VanGoghsDog The reason I mentioned colostomy bags is because someone in my family has a stoma after surgery. They hoped to have the situation reversed but unfortunately that could not happen and it is permanent. That happens. Colostomies and ileostomies are common in people of all ages.

As you might be able to imagine this was a hard blow. But the person insists on making light of their situation. They took the lead by joking about getting matching shoes for their bag. This was to stop us feeling sorry for them. Therefore we follow their lead and make jokes. It is not for you to say that what they want is not right.

I don’t know whether you have a stoma or know someone who does. Presumably not because if you did you would know that a stoma bag is not something you can pick up at Boots to put in your bathroom with tampons to make guests feel like they are staying in a hotel or to make you feel good about being the hostess with the mostest.

My family member would definitely not empty it in my bathroom bin. It is a discreet medical device supplied by the NHS and if you don’t mind I’m not going to ask them about it or the care of it unless they request my help.

In case you don't know, stomas can be dealt with very neatly and should not stand in people's way of living a normal life. In fact my relation would say there are far worse disabilities. They would even deal with the clumsy questioning of someone like you with grace. I would not subject them to it though because I am not as kind as them.

Your suggestion that I think having a colostomy is something to mock is abhorrent as is your accusation that I mock people who are not NT. Please do not do it again. That goes for @mathanxiety too. It is extremely distasteful that you two have attempted to turn my family member's situation into something to try to attack me with. It's beyond distasteful. We all want to win arguments but no, that's low.

And what I guess my family member would like to say to someone dreading a colostomy or ileostomy or similar "embarrassing" condition is that it's shit but really not that bad.

ok @mathanxiety I give up. You win. Feel better now?

Most everyone I know has one.

The ones I find ridiculous are the bins about the side of a soda can.
Always tipping over as they are so small. Why bother.

I don’t know whether you have a stoma or know someone who does. Presumably not because if you did you would know that a stoma bag is not something you can pick up at Boots to put in your bathroom with tampons to make guests feel like they are staying in a hotel or to make you feel good about being the hostess with the mostest.

You claim to have a relative who has a colostomy bag, yet you said this - flippantly - as if a colostomy was a joke:
colostomy bags are next on my list to be the hostess with the mostest in 2022...

You mentioned colostomy bags because you thought they would be an amusing argumentum ad absurdum.

No hearts or minds bamboozled here, sorry to say.

Your suggestion that I think having a colostomy is something to mock is abhorrent as is your accusation that I mock people who are not NT. Please do not do it again.

Funny how you've not explained what you meant by the exert I posted then.

Yes, you most certainly were mocking me and my interpretation of what you wrote. There, I dared to say it again. That's how I felt it came across, that's why I said what I did.

Your huge, long-winded, nonsense explanation of why you brought colostomy bags into the conversation makes no sense at all.

As for the poster who says she has a cat litter in her toilet I can't think of anything more gross. Cat poo in your own bathroom? MN is certainly an education into how people live.

Far preferable to your unsuspecting neighbours coming across it while gardening.

That was me. The poster never did bother to tell me what I was supposed to do with the litter tray. It's hardly ever used as he usually goes outside (the garden is cat proofed so don't worry about the neighbours!) but he's elderly and might need it.

I supply all sorts of drinks, different types of coffee and tea, etc, and they're not all strictly necessary, so why not sanpro and other incontinence products which people really, really need on occasion? If you don't find your favourite brand of Earl Grey in my kitchen your day probably won't be ruined, but lack of sanpro could really spoil a visit.

I have peppermint tea, PG Tips and a jar of instant coffee. Where am I supposed to keep all these different types of tea and coffee that won't get drunk unless we have guests? Should I get a coffee machine as well just in case guests don't approve of instant? My kitchen is small and funnily enough the cupboards are full of food and drink that we enjoy and won't go to waste.

Also their own tea bags, coffee, loo roll, tissues, plus little baggies to dispose of all of that in...

Well I usually take my own teabags as I only drink peppermint tea and I don't expect my hosts to cater for my different taste.

Even been caught out when visiting and needed sanpro? Tried to use loo roll instead, ended up leaving and trying to get home before your clothes were stained?

No because I have spare san pro in my bag like most people I know.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat no one expects people to keep a full range of things they don't drink. But I don't drink coffee and I do keep it just for visitors.

This comparing condoms to san pro is madness, having sex is a choice

Pinksparkly, I've been caught out several times in my life, irregular periods etc, and young girls who have just started, they are expected to remember all the time?

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@PinkSparklyPussyCat no one expects people to keep a full range of things they don't drink. But I don't drink coffee and I do keep it just for visitors.[/quote]
There are some on this thread who do expect that. And would think you were selfish if you didn't have exactly what the visitor wanted.

We have several kinds of coffee in this house as big coffee drinkers. And the smallest box of tea bags as no one drinks tea. My dad does and they were for him when he was in the house looking after my kids. But since covid he doesn't like to travel on public transport.

The most outstanding thing about this thread to me is that so many people don't have guests. And they say "I don't need to provide nice things for guests, I don't have guests". And they can't see that maybe no-one wants to visit their house anyway, since it's so clear they don't want guests.....

Um… some of us do have guests over but it is planned in advance so we accommodate and buy accordingly. Not everyone has a revolving door of guests coming to their home unexpectedly like some people choose to do.

@phoenixrosehere

The most outstanding thing about this thread to me is that so many people don't have guests. And they say "I don't need to provide nice things for guests, I don't have guests". And they can't see that maybe no-one wants to visit their house anyway, since it's so clear they don't want guests.....

Um… some of us do have guests over but it is planned in advance so we accommodate and buy accordingly. Not everyone has a revolving door of guests coming to their home unexpectedly like some people choose to do.

I agree.

The post you quoted also suggests to me that people won't come if you are not the perfect host. I don't visit people because they are fabulous hosts. I visit because I like them enjoy their company. Would like to think the reverse is true!

If any of my friends or family seriously thought, I don't want to visit tigger, they don't have a bathroom bin, they are free not to visit. They either want my company or they dont.

Life is far too short to be worrying that you have bought enough san pro etc or have the right coffee/tea etc. there is a saying here " people can take me as you find me" that seems to ring true in the people I know. I don't expect anyone to go out if their way to anticipate my needs if I visit. That's my job.

*I visit because I like them enjoy their company. Would like to think the reverse is true!

If any of my friends or family seriously thought, I don't want to visit tigger, they don't have a bathroom bin, they are free not to visit. They either want my company or they dont.

Life is far too short to be worrying that you have bought enough san pro etc or have the right coffee/tea etc. there is a saying here " people can take me as you find me" that seems to ring true in the people I know. I don't expect anyone to go out if their way to anticipate my needs if I visit. That's my job.*

Agree. I’ve been in homes with and without bathroom bins and it has never crossed my mind on what kind of host they were because of it nor consider why not for those who didn’t. It’s a very weird thing to be hung up on and I definitely side-eye anyone who would make a fuss over it.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@PinkSparklyPussyCat no one expects people to keep a full range of things they don't drink. But I don't drink coffee and I do keep it just for visitors.[/quote]
Math seems to!

I supply all sorts of drinks, different types of coffee and tea, etc, and they're not all strictly necessary

Pinksparkly, I've been caught out several times in my life, irregular periods etc, and young girls who have just started, they are expected to remember all the time?

The only young girl I know would only be visiting with her Mum who would have no problem asking me if she didn’t have something she needed.

@mathanxiety it doesn't matter if you believe me. I don't believe you either. What's clear is that you want to win. So I said I give up. You win. What more do you want? Blood? Where should I put it?

So you would put your used tampons in someone else's bin? Gross

Yes I mean a host would really expect me to keep dirty used tampons in my handbag for 48 hours ? !! That's more gross !!
I put them in the wheelie bin outside which was awful and embarrassing having to do that every few hours. I'd change the bin myself if they had a bathroom one !! I will be booking a hotel next year or not visiting for Christmas if I'm on my period it's not worth the feeling of being uncomfortable.

Also moon cup isn't an option for me , I don't want to bleed all over myself and the floor which is what will happen with a mooncup.

@Veeveeoxox

So you would put your used tampons in someone else's bin? Gross

Yes I mean a host would really expect me to keep dirty used tampons in my handbag for 48 hours ? !! That's more gross !!
I put them in the wheelie bin outside which was awful and embarrassing having to do that every few hours. I'd change the bin myself if they had a bathroom one !! I will be booking a hotel next year or not visiting for Christmas if I'm on my period it's not worth the feeling of being uncomfortable.

What's the difference between putting them in an outside bin or putting them in a bathroom bin and then putting the liner in the outdoor bin?