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To tell them I'm not going for Christmas anymore?

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PinkStarAtNight · 20/12/2021 16:57

Hi everyone,

I need advice on whether I should follow my instinct and do what I feel like doing in response to this, or whether I am overreacting and letting my emotions take over...

So, I always go to my partner's parents house for Christmas. We have been together nearly three years. He still lives at home and so do I. (We are 25 and 26 in case that's relevant.) Ever since we've been together I have always been to his house, usually a few days before Christmas day and stay until after boxing day, apart from last year when I only went for Christmas Eve, Christmas day and Boxing day due to covid.

So the plan was for me to go as usual this year. We are all double vaccinated and we agreed we would all do covid tests to make sure we were being safe. My partner said that his mum had told him she wanted us to be there in the run up to Christmas so we could help out. The two of us discussed when I should go over there and we agreed on Monday, as in today, so that I would have time to settle in, unpack etc and help out in the run up. I have also had to send all his presents to his house as I ordered late- they are arriving at his all this week and I was planning to wrap them in private as they arrived. Another reason was covid - we were thinking its best for me to do a test and then isolate there up until Christmas to make it safe, and if the government brought in restrictions around movement I would already be there; tested, negative and isolated and therefore covid safe.

I did ask my partner if it was definitely ok with his mum that I arrived on Monday, as it would mean me being there all week. He said he had told her and she was fine with it. So, today I spent the whole morning and early afternoon rushing around packing, getting ready, and going shopping for my food (I'm veggie so I'm taking my own vegan turkey and veggie starter to have xmas day). This afternoon my partner messaged me to say that his mum has asked could I go Thursday instead, because she has decided that an extra person in the house in the run up to Christmas is too much, as they only have one bathroom so that would be five of us in the house, and she is stressed with working all week and preparing for Christmas and she doesn't want us in the kitchen making food, making a mess and we both get long showers so it will be difficult. I don't quite understand these two comments because we don't cook a lot in her house, we mainly eat out or get takeaway and when we do cook we wash up. They ALL take very long showers, much longer than I do. The fact they have one bathroom is difficult a lot of the time - there's been many times I've been in his room bursting for a wee and not being able to get into the bathroom because one of his family have been having a 30 min shower. I'm never longer than that I don't think.

Anyway, I was very upset at the short notice - my suitcase is fully packed and I have a big bag filled with food and drinks to take over, I got up early and rushed to go shopping so that I could get back to finish my Christmas cake and make a pate, all in preparation to get there for this evening. My mum put off seeing her friends to give me a lift to the supermarket because I explained I needed to go today and I had fallen behind on things. So my mum is also upset that she could have seen her friends.

I am behind with things because my mental health has been especially bad these last few weeks, I have severe ocd. So I recognise I'm behind on plans and that's why I had to rush thinking I was going today. I was really looking forward to getting there and being with my partner because he always makes me feel better and helps with my anxiety and I miss him a lot, so I think I'm a lot more shaken up and upset because of that. However I did find it inconsiderate for her to go back on the plan at such short notice and even after he told her I had already packed. When I questioned him saying 'but you told me she'd said it was fine' his reply was 'well she did moan about it a bit and say it wasn't great, but she reluctantly agreed.' I'm very pissed off with him for that because I would never have planned to go today if I'd known she wasn't happy with it. BUT I also think she shouldn't have agreed reluctantly only to go back on it on the day.

When I got the message I just broke down in tears. Dramatic I know but as I said I've been really struggling mentally and the only way I managed to go shopping and pack everything was thinking about seeing my partner, then to be told that I'm not welcome until Thursday because basically his mum doesn't want me around because I apparently make a mess and have long showers! Also the short notice is really upsetting, like she has a lack of consideration for me and my mum.

The other thing is that his mum has a history of doing this. Last summer she kept yo yoing between saying that I could go and see my partner and he could come see me, to suddenly always at the last minute say I couldn't go or he couldn't come see me because of covid. There was one time that her and her partner had a friend over to stay, and they had drinks and takeaway, and very shortly after that she said I couldn't go over there because the cases had gone up. I wouldn't mind so much if she just stuck to her decisions instead of changing at the last minute all the time. Last year she said I could go over to see my partner for his birthday. Then at the last minute she said I would have to stay outside in the garden (it was really cold!) then felt guilty and said I could go in as long as I stayed at the table and didn't use the loo...she's very changeable and goes back on things at short notice a lot. My partner says its because she gets stressed about things. I suppose I understand that, I have severe anxiety myself! But I would never inconvenience someone or do something unfair because of it.

When I told my mum about this she said she wouldn't be surprised if on Thursday my partner's mum changes her mind again. After all we still don't know what the government will say and what restrictions will be put in place. I don't want to unpack everything today, and then pack everything up again for Thursday only for her to again say at the last minute that I can't go at all. With my mental health it really doesn't help having constant changes and feeling like I'm on an emotional rollacoaster. I also feel a bit offended and upset about the things she said and the idea that I'm clearly not seen as part of the family so she doesn't want me around. And I'm in disbelief of how she could cancel at the last minute. Its almost unbelievable that anyone would do that and I can't help a tiny niggling thought that maybe my partner is the one who doesn't want me around so he's made all of this up. He has said before that he sometimes struggles to deal with my anxiety so I'm half thinking maybe he just doesn't want me there. I know that sounds a bit crazy and I know that my anxiety does make me paranoid about things sometimes...I just don't know what to think and I'm feeling very upset about all of it.

Anyway, sorry this was so long! My question is...WIBU to just politely say that I won't bother going for Christmas because I can't deal with the possibility that I might unpack and pack again only to be told I can't go on Thursday and also don't feel like going and having a happy Christmas now anyway? My mum doesn't celebrate Christmas and I've got no other family to spend it with so it will mean having a very low key and lonely Christmas by myself - but is that better than being messed around and being on a rollacoaster of expectation and disappointment? I'm not even sure if I can manage to go over there and sit eating Christmas dinner with someone who didn't want me there a few days in advance, like she wants to minimise the time I'm there. I also feel like my partner should learn to communicate better (i.e telling me his mum had agreed reluctantly) and his mum should learn not to mess people around. However I don't know whether this is too petty and I'm massively overreacting/letting my anxiety make everything seem worse...also if I don't go this year am I ruining it for all future years? But then again at this moment in time I honestly feel like saying I'm never going there again. Basically I'm still very upset and wound up so I'm looking for honest, balanced advice from people. How would you feel in this situation/what would you do?

Thank you to all who read this far, sorry it was a bit of a rant!

OP posts:
Bubblty · 20/12/2021 18:58

Why does your mum need to drive you to the supermarket? Get a taxi if its too far or a bus. Your poor mum.

Immaculatemisconception · 20/12/2021 19:06

I think you've been messed about and I understand why you would be feeling peed off.

Leave them to it and do your own thing.

LakieLady · 20/12/2021 19:09

I can understand why you're upset, but I think you'll regret it if you don't go.

You may well feel better about things tomorrow. You really need to accept this and try and move on, just go on Thursday and try and have a good time.

ThatCampWitch · 20/12/2021 19:16

Don’t cut your nose off to spite your face. Longer term, look at getting your own place.

Puffalicious · 20/12/2021 19:19

Like PP have said, you sound very very needy and, perhaps, hard work for your MIL to host for an entire week. Do either of you work? If not, maybe she doesn't want you hanging around all day. You do sound whiney, I'm afraid, just get on with it and stop over-thinking: go Thursday, be gracious, helpful and friendly.

MeltedWax · 20/12/2021 19:23

One day OP, you'll have your own home and I think you'll see this situation very differently!

At 25 & 26 you need to sort yourselves out. Why don't you go away together for a few days in an Air BnB or something?
Leave his poor mother alone, she doesn't want you at her home for a week over Christmas, she never did and it wasn't her idea.

Scandisaurus · 20/12/2021 19:35

I don’t believe that you are 25 & 26, it just can’t be right. I fully understand his mum.

PinkStarAtNight · 20/12/2021 19:38

ok so I want to reply to people and clarity things....

We have been together 4 years next May. I realise I said 'nearly three years' but I meant four, sorry! So I have spent Christmas with them three years now. The other week when I was there his brother asked 'are you coming here for Christmas then?'. BF had already said that a few weeks ago his mum had asked if I was going so she could plan forward, but I still felt embarrassed and said 'oh well...I suppose I will, if I'm invited' and his mum said 'of course you are! We just assumed you'd be coming you silly thing'.

We usually spend alternate weekends at each others houses. It was only going to be a week for Christmas, for the reasons I said. And I was going to leave after boxing day and he was going to be at mine for New Year.

My mum doesn't celebrate Xmas because of religious reasons. She won't celebrate it just this once or allow any decs in the house etc...my dad is an alcoholic so off the scene.

To all the people implying that I felt entitled to stay there for a week and invited myself, I did say to him multiple times 'Are you sure it's ok??' and he kept reassuring me it was. He said 'it's Christmas, of course you should be here for the week'. So I didn't invite myself at all and I thought it was fine. That's why it was such a shock and upsetting when it (to me) suddenly wasn't.

I also understand about her being pressured and if I had known she wasn't happy I wouldn't have gone and would have understood, but my main problem was the late notice and sticking to it even when she knew I had already packed and been shopping. I wouldn't do that to someone. I would either say a firm no to begin with or follow through on what I'd said.

In terms of the reliance on parents - I did say in my original post that I suffer with severe OCD (intrusive thoughts) and anxiety so that's why I am reliant on my mum when I'm struggling.

Whether we both work:

I do work usually, from home due to covid, but I just finished a temp contract and I'm waiting to start a new job on 4th Jan. I work in call centres. I have a degree in English Lit but I still haven't decided what to do as a career so atm I'm just doing temp jobs. I'm thinking about going back to uni to do a masters next year. BF doesn't work as he's studying an access to education course full time. Before that he worked. His mum has said he really should work now and contribute something and this has been a bit of a tense subject the past few years but at the same time she hasn't ever properly enforced it. He also has issues with anxiety that he's currently addressing with the GP so that's a work in progress.

Whenever I'm there I walk on eggshells and barely speak. He even says that I should be more confident in his house. This has causee a few arguments because I was brought up to barely breathe when you're in someone else's house so if I want a snack or a cup of tea I won't go and make it myself, I'll ask him to do it for me or at least go with me, because I don't want them to think I'm walking around acting like its my house. He says I need to act more like its my own house and that his family will think I'm lazy for not getting up and doing things for myself. But when I do, I feel like his mum is watching my every move and I just feel awkward. So I don't know what to think or do there but I don't think I go in there and act like its a hotel. If anything I'm 'too' polite.

Being over reliant on parents/them being involved in our lives:

For me this is because of anxiety and ocd as already mentioned. For him, I don't know...she treats him like he's a lot younger than he is and yes she did dictate whether or not we could see each other during covid. Not during the peak of covid - at that point we both observed the lockdowns. This was last summer when restrictions were eased. He would have to ask her if he could come over to mine and if she said no because cases are too high, he couldn't do it. She would say that if he left the house to see me he wouldn't be allowed back in.

Getting our own place:

We have been discussing it recently and hopefully plan to move in together early next year.

I understand everything that has been said about it being her house and I feel its a bit unfair to make out that I invited myself. If he had asked and she had said last week that I should go later, I would have been disappointed but would have accepted it. I am upset about the short notice cancellation and the comments about the messy kitchen and long showers.

Quasii22 - I am not diagnosed with anything other than OCD and GAD but I have been told by a close friend who has aspergers and my mum that I have some characteristics that are 'on the scale'. Its difficult for me to know because there's nothing that would be obvious to a random person, this is just something picked up by people who have experience in that area.

OP posts:
Robin233 · 20/12/2021 19:38

@Immaculatemisconception

I think you've been messed about and I understand why you would be feeling peed off.

Leave them to it and do your own thing.
^^^
This with Bells on.

Your self respect with soar and your anxiety lessen.

It will teach your dp to consider communicating better and that you are a person in your right.

Maybe do your own thing this year and see dp later in the day - can he not come over to yours in the evening on Christmas Day?

I can see both side's of this but i don't thing any of it is fair on you Thanks

girlmom21 · 20/12/2021 19:42

@PinkStarAtNight have you noticed you focus entirely on his mother and not on him at all?

How can you be attracted to a man with absolutely no bottle?

PinkStarAtNight · 20/12/2021 19:45

Just another thing to add - BF's brother is 30 and still lives with them. He does work and contribute to finances but is reliant on his mum in other ways. He doesn't have his own bank card or manage his own money and has anxiety.
I get that BF doesn't contribute financially but he does get some money for studying and he has offered this to his mum - she refused and said she'd rather him keep it for himself. So to be fair he is probably looking at his brother and taking what his mum said and thinking its not entirely a massive problem. She doesn't insist that he work and contribute even a quarter as much as my mum did when I graduated. I've always known that I have to work because my mum needs the money. His mum does not have a mortgage and they don't struggle for money at all and she hasn't gone on about it very much, so with an anxiety disorder which would make it difficult to work he can perhaps be forgiven for not forcing himself like I do. And working really does make my mental health a lot worse. I feel like poor mental health is vastly misunderstood.

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AngelinaFibres · 20/12/2021 19:46

When I was still working and my sons were Uni age I found Christmas a bit of a slog. When I got home in the evening I wanted to make something quick and simple / eat what someone else had made and have some peace and quiet.....whilst making lists of things that still needed to be done/bought/sorted. The very last thing I would have wanted is for there to be girlfriends with different eating requirements, anxiety issues etc in my space for such a long time. The need to prepare something more guest worthy and have to make conversation, walk on eggshells around a nervous/needy girlfriend would have been a total PITA. I am sure his mother is also living for a few days off over Christmas and non family in her space is not at all relaxing. It is nice to have people for VERY SHORT stays. It is even nicer to wave them off and veg out eating bits and bobs (and tubs of Quality Street)

Kbish1 · 20/12/2021 19:53

He is the issue.

He lied about her being happy. I am guessing she either told him to change plans earlier or never agreed in the first place.

She confirmed that you were invited for Christmas not a whole week.

I suspect, he was the issue in the summer too.

If you don't want to go, don't. If yiu stay home and have no celebrations, that's your choice. No one is forcing you to stay home.

So either choose to and celebrate or choose to stay home and not celebrate. Its entirely your choice to make.

Scandisaurus · 20/12/2021 19:55

so with an anxiety disorder which would make it difficult to work he can perhaps be forgiven for not forcing himself like I do. And working really does make my mental health a lot worse.

Both of you NEED to work though. You cannot stay at home with your poor mums at the age of 30 and share one bathroom! You need to get out there and create a life for yourselves. It’s NOT going to get better for both of you staying at home. It sounds like you both drag each other down, and because of this you both seem to think your situations are ok.

Kbish1 · 20/12/2021 19:58

Most peoples mental health would be better if they didnt have to work.

So what's the plan? He lives there forever?

Squeezita · 20/12/2021 20:02

It's extremely rude to disinvite a desk on the day they're expected to arrive, and she must have known you would have bought your own food as usual and packed.

In your shoes, I wouldn't go. I hope you didn't send presents for them all?

PinkStarAtNight · 20/12/2021 20:02

I'm interested to know how many people support the suggestion to let his mum know that I wasn't aware she didn't want me there so early?
We don't really talk a lot so I definitely wouldn't call her but I'm now thinking a message needs to be sent? I do want her to know that it wasn't my intention to force myself into the house and I don't know how he has put it across to her, whether he's made it seem like I was inviting myself...but I also don't know whether its a strange thing to do or it might make things worse?

OP posts:
Squeezita · 20/12/2021 20:03

desk? Guest!

Squeezita · 20/12/2021 20:04

I wouldn't message her. You can mention it next time you see her.

girlmom21 · 20/12/2021 20:04

I'd mention it too.

PinkStarAtNight · 20/12/2021 20:04

Squeezita no, presents for the family are all here waiting to be taken over. I was going to quickly wrap them this evening before going there. Now I suppose I have two whole days free to wrap them but somehow I've lost my Christmas spirit!

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AngelinaFibres · 20/12/2021 20:05

@PinkStarAtNight

ok so I want to reply to people and clarity things....

We have been together 4 years next May. I realise I said 'nearly three years' but I meant four, sorry! So I have spent Christmas with them three years now. The other week when I was there his brother asked 'are you coming here for Christmas then?'. BF had already said that a few weeks ago his mum had asked if I was going so she could plan forward, but I still felt embarrassed and said 'oh well...I suppose I will, if I'm invited' and his mum said 'of course you are! We just assumed you'd be coming you silly thing'.

We usually spend alternate weekends at each others houses. It was only going to be a week for Christmas, for the reasons I said. And I was going to leave after boxing day and he was going to be at mine for New Year.

My mum doesn't celebrate Xmas because of religious reasons. She won't celebrate it just this once or allow any decs in the house etc...my dad is an alcoholic so off the scene.

To all the people implying that I felt entitled to stay there for a week and invited myself, I did say to him multiple times 'Are you sure it's ok??' and he kept reassuring me it was. He said 'it's Christmas, of course you should be here for the week'. So I didn't invite myself at all and I thought it was fine. That's why it was such a shock and upsetting when it (to me) suddenly wasn't.

I also understand about her being pressured and if I had known she wasn't happy I wouldn't have gone and would have understood, but my main problem was the late notice and sticking to it even when she knew I had already packed and been shopping. I wouldn't do that to someone. I would either say a firm no to begin with or follow through on what I'd said.

In terms of the reliance on parents - I did say in my original post that I suffer with severe OCD (intrusive thoughts) and anxiety so that's why I am reliant on my mum when I'm struggling.

Whether we both work:

I do work usually, from home due to covid, but I just finished a temp contract and I'm waiting to start a new job on 4th Jan. I work in call centres. I have a degree in English Lit but I still haven't decided what to do as a career so atm I'm just doing temp jobs. I'm thinking about going back to uni to do a masters next year. BF doesn't work as he's studying an access to education course full time. Before that he worked. His mum has said he really should work now and contribute something and this has been a bit of a tense subject the past few years but at the same time she hasn't ever properly enforced it. He also has issues with anxiety that he's currently addressing with the GP so that's a work in progress.

Whenever I'm there I walk on eggshells and barely speak. He even says that I should be more confident in his house. This has causee a few arguments because I was brought up to barely breathe when you're in someone else's house so if I want a snack or a cup of tea I won't go and make it myself, I'll ask him to do it for me or at least go with me, because I don't want them to think I'm walking around acting like its my house. He says I need to act more like its my own house and that his family will think I'm lazy for not getting up and doing things for myself. But when I do, I feel like his mum is watching my every move and I just feel awkward. So I don't know what to think or do there but I don't think I go in there and act like its a hotel. If anything I'm 'too' polite.

Being over reliant on parents/them being involved in our lives:

For me this is because of anxiety and ocd as already mentioned. For him, I don't know...she treats him like he's a lot younger than he is and yes she did dictate whether or not we could see each other during covid. Not during the peak of covid - at that point we both observed the lockdowns. This was last summer when restrictions were eased. He would have to ask her if he could come over to mine and if she said no because cases are too high, he couldn't do it. She would say that if he left the house to see me he wouldn't be allowed back in.

Getting our own place:

We have been discussing it recently and hopefully plan to move in together early next year.

I understand everything that has been said about it being her house and I feel its a bit unfair to make out that I invited myself. If he had asked and she had said last week that I should go later, I would have been disappointed but would have accepted it. I am upset about the short notice cancellation and the comments about the messy kitchen and long showers.

Quasii22 - I am not diagnosed with anything other than OCD and GAD but I have been told by a close friend who has aspergers and my mum that I have some characteristics that are 'on the scale'. Its difficult for me to know because there's nothing that would be obvious to a random person, this is just something picked up by people who have experience in that area.

Your updates have me rolling my eyes. You both seem entirely unable to function in the real world. He isn't working, you find working stressful. You haven't decided at 25 !!!!!!! what you are going to do with your life and he at 26 !!!!!! is only just doing an access to education course. Personally I would say that you both need to get away from each other and find other partners who can help you navigate your way through life. If you stay together you will disappear down the rabbit hole of mental health issues, anxiety, paranoia. As a side issue. One of my sons had a girlfriend who didn't speak whenever she came to the house and mainly hid in his bedroom. Don't underestimate how massively wearing that is for everyone else in the house.
StormyTeacups · 20/12/2021 20:07

"an anxiety disorder"? I thought you said he just had some issues around anxiety and was talking to the GP?

Honestly, both of your set ups sound a little weird, his in particular. At 25 he can't work and is overly dependent on his mum, and his 30 yr old brother doesn't even have a bank card. You live with your mum at 25 and expect her to cancel plans to take you to the supermarket.

You both have a whole lot of growing up to do, and I would be thinking very hard about whether I wanted to get any deeper in with his family.

Squeezita · 20/12/2021 20:07

Well, I wouldn't be giving them the presents if you don't go.

They've behaved quite badly, including your BF who has put you in a bad situation due to his thoughtlessness.

I have a feeling this guy will turn out to be a cocklodger if you get your own place.

1FootInTheRave · 20/12/2021 20:07

He is absolutely taking the piss not contributing.

Your diagnosis is exactly the same as mine. I am medicated allowing me to live a relatively normal life.

You both really need to grow up asap.