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To tell them I'm not going for Christmas anymore?

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PinkStarAtNight · 20/12/2021 16:57

Hi everyone,

I need advice on whether I should follow my instinct and do what I feel like doing in response to this, or whether I am overreacting and letting my emotions take over...

So, I always go to my partner's parents house for Christmas. We have been together nearly three years. He still lives at home and so do I. (We are 25 and 26 in case that's relevant.) Ever since we've been together I have always been to his house, usually a few days before Christmas day and stay until after boxing day, apart from last year when I only went for Christmas Eve, Christmas day and Boxing day due to covid.

So the plan was for me to go as usual this year. We are all double vaccinated and we agreed we would all do covid tests to make sure we were being safe. My partner said that his mum had told him she wanted us to be there in the run up to Christmas so we could help out. The two of us discussed when I should go over there and we agreed on Monday, as in today, so that I would have time to settle in, unpack etc and help out in the run up. I have also had to send all his presents to his house as I ordered late- they are arriving at his all this week and I was planning to wrap them in private as they arrived. Another reason was covid - we were thinking its best for me to do a test and then isolate there up until Christmas to make it safe, and if the government brought in restrictions around movement I would already be there; tested, negative and isolated and therefore covid safe.

I did ask my partner if it was definitely ok with his mum that I arrived on Monday, as it would mean me being there all week. He said he had told her and she was fine with it. So, today I spent the whole morning and early afternoon rushing around packing, getting ready, and going shopping for my food (I'm veggie so I'm taking my own vegan turkey and veggie starter to have xmas day). This afternoon my partner messaged me to say that his mum has asked could I go Thursday instead, because she has decided that an extra person in the house in the run up to Christmas is too much, as they only have one bathroom so that would be five of us in the house, and she is stressed with working all week and preparing for Christmas and she doesn't want us in the kitchen making food, making a mess and we both get long showers so it will be difficult. I don't quite understand these two comments because we don't cook a lot in her house, we mainly eat out or get takeaway and when we do cook we wash up. They ALL take very long showers, much longer than I do. The fact they have one bathroom is difficult a lot of the time - there's been many times I've been in his room bursting for a wee and not being able to get into the bathroom because one of his family have been having a 30 min shower. I'm never longer than that I don't think.

Anyway, I was very upset at the short notice - my suitcase is fully packed and I have a big bag filled with food and drinks to take over, I got up early and rushed to go shopping so that I could get back to finish my Christmas cake and make a pate, all in preparation to get there for this evening. My mum put off seeing her friends to give me a lift to the supermarket because I explained I needed to go today and I had fallen behind on things. So my mum is also upset that she could have seen her friends.

I am behind with things because my mental health has been especially bad these last few weeks, I have severe ocd. So I recognise I'm behind on plans and that's why I had to rush thinking I was going today. I was really looking forward to getting there and being with my partner because he always makes me feel better and helps with my anxiety and I miss him a lot, so I think I'm a lot more shaken up and upset because of that. However I did find it inconsiderate for her to go back on the plan at such short notice and even after he told her I had already packed. When I questioned him saying 'but you told me she'd said it was fine' his reply was 'well she did moan about it a bit and say it wasn't great, but she reluctantly agreed.' I'm very pissed off with him for that because I would never have planned to go today if I'd known she wasn't happy with it. BUT I also think she shouldn't have agreed reluctantly only to go back on it on the day.

When I got the message I just broke down in tears. Dramatic I know but as I said I've been really struggling mentally and the only way I managed to go shopping and pack everything was thinking about seeing my partner, then to be told that I'm not welcome until Thursday because basically his mum doesn't want me around because I apparently make a mess and have long showers! Also the short notice is really upsetting, like she has a lack of consideration for me and my mum.

The other thing is that his mum has a history of doing this. Last summer she kept yo yoing between saying that I could go and see my partner and he could come see me, to suddenly always at the last minute say I couldn't go or he couldn't come see me because of covid. There was one time that her and her partner had a friend over to stay, and they had drinks and takeaway, and very shortly after that she said I couldn't go over there because the cases had gone up. I wouldn't mind so much if she just stuck to her decisions instead of changing at the last minute all the time. Last year she said I could go over to see my partner for his birthday. Then at the last minute she said I would have to stay outside in the garden (it was really cold!) then felt guilty and said I could go in as long as I stayed at the table and didn't use the loo...she's very changeable and goes back on things at short notice a lot. My partner says its because she gets stressed about things. I suppose I understand that, I have severe anxiety myself! But I would never inconvenience someone or do something unfair because of it.

When I told my mum about this she said she wouldn't be surprised if on Thursday my partner's mum changes her mind again. After all we still don't know what the government will say and what restrictions will be put in place. I don't want to unpack everything today, and then pack everything up again for Thursday only for her to again say at the last minute that I can't go at all. With my mental health it really doesn't help having constant changes and feeling like I'm on an emotional rollacoaster. I also feel a bit offended and upset about the things she said and the idea that I'm clearly not seen as part of the family so she doesn't want me around. And I'm in disbelief of how she could cancel at the last minute. Its almost unbelievable that anyone would do that and I can't help a tiny niggling thought that maybe my partner is the one who doesn't want me around so he's made all of this up. He has said before that he sometimes struggles to deal with my anxiety so I'm half thinking maybe he just doesn't want me there. I know that sounds a bit crazy and I know that my anxiety does make me paranoid about things sometimes...I just don't know what to think and I'm feeling very upset about all of it.

Anyway, sorry this was so long! My question is...WIBU to just politely say that I won't bother going for Christmas because I can't deal with the possibility that I might unpack and pack again only to be told I can't go on Thursday and also don't feel like going and having a happy Christmas now anyway? My mum doesn't celebrate Christmas and I've got no other family to spend it with so it will mean having a very low key and lonely Christmas by myself - but is that better than being messed around and being on a rollacoaster of expectation and disappointment? I'm not even sure if I can manage to go over there and sit eating Christmas dinner with someone who didn't want me there a few days in advance, like she wants to minimise the time I'm there. I also feel like my partner should learn to communicate better (i.e telling me his mum had agreed reluctantly) and his mum should learn not to mess people around. However I don't know whether this is too petty and I'm massively overreacting/letting my anxiety make everything seem worse...also if I don't go this year am I ruining it for all future years? But then again at this moment in time I honestly feel like saying I'm never going there again. Basically I'm still very upset and wound up so I'm looking for honest, balanced advice from people. How would you feel in this situation/what would you do?

Thank you to all who read this far, sorry it was a bit of a rant!

OP posts:
Uninterested · 22/12/2021 01:23

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girlmom21 · 22/12/2021 08:05

FFS don't tell her he said she just shrugged and moaned - Jesus Christ.

Just say he told you she was happy for you to come in Monday but he's since told you she hadn't agreed to that

Justheretoaskaquestion91 · 22/12/2021 08:45

I see why you want to text in advance; sort everything out before you get there and not have to do it in person as you’re anxious and it’s easier. The problem is in reality it’s more likely to create an atmosphere. Much better when you arrive to offer to make tea for everyone, say “I’m so sorry about the mix up re timings, silly DH!” Snd laugh it off. Also fine to have a little conversation explaining you had been brought up to think creeping around was polite but you’ve since realised it’s not and will be pitching in. These things are always better face to face

huuskymam · 22/12/2021 09:13

You're annoyed at the wrong person. It sounds like your boyfriend pressured his mum into saying its OK to come on Monday, and lied to you about it. If she's still working I can see why it's an issue, lots of running around to and getting the house in order, wrapping, sorting food. Why the need to go so early? What would you both be doing for the best part of the week?

WildImaginings · 22/12/2021 13:08

As others have said, I would keep any message short and sweet.

'Hi XXXX,

Really looking forward to seeing you all on Thursday. Is there anything you would like me to pick up on the way?

Thank you for inviting me for Christmas again, I have really enjoyed celebrating Christmas with you all the past couple of years."

Don't mention the mix up, just focus on the actual plans. Then when you're there I'd just ask if there's anything you can do. Not constantly as that can be as annoying as someone not asking, but if food prep is being done then offer to peel the potatoes etc.

StationaryMagpie · 22/12/2021 15:05

it does vary household to household, but for most in western culture, your moms POV is quite odd.

For casual houseguests, yes, of course you host, but as a long term partner to your boyfriend, in my house you'd be welcome to treat it more or less like your own, make tea/food for yourselves whenever you feel like it, and certainly be expected to pitch in with prepping/cleaning up after any communal meals.

My mom always put it as 'offer to help, they can always says no, don't wait to be asked'

me4real · 22/12/2021 18:16

I don’t quite understand how someone is too anxious to get a glass of water from her boyfriend’s mum’s kitchen but has the bravery to stay there every other weekend and for a week over Christmas

@Squeezita Having had severe MH problems when I was younger I can completely understand it. OP has said she feels better when she's there, with her boyfriend etc. So there are a few things she can't do/finds hard there but it's worth going for how it makes her feel to be with her boyfriend.

@PinkStarAtNight One of the problems of having severe MH problems (I know this as I've been like this myself) is one clings on to experiences/people because they make one feel better. They can be some of the rare pleasures in one's life so you intensely live for those experiences. One can also be a bit much for others and unfortunately this can have an impact on relationships/friendships.

One has to learn to like one's own company. It actually makes one a better friend for others. But it has taken me until my 40s to learn to do this. Before this I was often quite lonely and desparate for company.

Yogaandcocoa · 22/12/2021 18:48

1

I agree with this

I think that your bf is pressuring her into agreeing with things that she doesn't want to. I think that he is probably taking it and her for granted. She's quite within her rights to want to minimise the time that she is forced into having adult house guests and you need to stop thinking that you are entitled to stay longer. Both you and your bf are proper adults now and need to think about spending time at your place and just dropping in for Christmas dinner.

It's not your prospective MIL who caused this issue. It's your BF and as much as she might like you I think you being there from Monday is a lot!

It doesn't matter how long their showers are as it's their house but I is inconvenient to share the only bathroom with another person.

2

With regards to making your own cup of tea I actually agree with you and wouldn't want someone in my house helping themselves but that's mainly due to hygiene

3

I think you sound really nice but you possibly don't understand how intrusive it can feel having someone in your home for a long period of time.

Imagine sharing your bedroom with your BF sister or mum for a week with their things lying around, them in your space abd using your bathroom.

4

I wouldn't send that text. First it sounds ike you're desperate to go and second the mention of shrugging etc makes it sound a bit rude or childish. You just need to say you are sorry you and BF got your wires crossed as he gave you the impression she wanted you there from Monday to help but it seems like maybe that was BF idea! Then me going what to bring on Thursday. Or you could mention that when you see her.

5

No one really celebrates Christmas properly unless they are Christians.

Not sure what you mean by properly but lots of people who are not Christians have Christmas dinner and exchange gifts.

Yogaandcocoa · 22/12/2021 18:50

Following on from 2 I had also intended to add that you should ask her whether she prefers you to help yourself to tea because you don't want to put her out but also don't want to intrude.

Your BF sounds a bit insensitive.

BTW I'm not judging you for living at home because I lived at home longer than you have but I didn't have people stay over.

PWYP76 · 22/12/2021 22:45

In the kindest way, you sound so self obsessed. And suffocating.

You fail to merit anyone else's view point, even though you've said yourself that it could be because of your anxiety that they have changed their mind.

Have you ever thought that they may have things going on in their life that may mean it's inconvenient for you to be there, or does that not cross your mind?!

AutumnWinterSpring · 22/12/2021 23:08

Oh god no! Don’t send that!

If you feel the need to contact cut all the he said this/that and build your relationship. The issue has been caused by your BF not your poor, stressed & still working MIL.

How about ‘Morning MIL, I wanted to get in touch to apologise for any confusion this week. I’m looking forward to spending Christmas together. See you Thursday x’

Twillow · 22/12/2021 23:11

^"Hi MIL. I just wanted to say sorry for the confusion about when I was coming for Christmas. Me and BF talked about me coming on Monday...I ordered his presents late and they're arriving all this week at your house so I was thinking I could wrap them as they came in, and I was also thinking about covid and that it might be a good idea to test and then stay in at your house for the week, but I would never have planned to come on Monday if I had known you weren't happy with it. BF told me he had discussed it with you and you were totally fine with it and he had even said to me that you wanted us around to help out so I really thought you were happy with the plan. I've talked to BF tonight and he admitted that you had just 'shrugged' and moaned about it a bit and he took that as a yes....
I'm so sorry, if he had told me that I wouldn't have been coming yesterday! I'm sorry it caused an argument and I just wanted to let you know I wasn't trying to invite myself or impose on you or anything and I hope you're not offended. Is there anything you want me to bring on Thursday? Please also let me know if there's anything I can do to help. Leave us a list of jobs and we will do them! I know we never help much at Christmas and its really stressful...I tend to be too shy to just do things without being asked but I would like to help so please tell me whatever you want me to do'^

"Hi MIL. I just wanted to say sorry for the confusion about when I was coming for Christmas. Me and BF talked about me coming on Monday as I ordered his presents late and they're arriving all this week at your house so I was worrying about getting them wrapped them. I hope you're not getting as stressed as me! Is there anything you want me to bring on Thursday? Please let me know what I can do to help. Leave us a list of jobs and we will do them! See you soon xx

HoppingPavlova · 23/12/2021 03:55

"Hi MIL. I just wanted to say sorry for the confusion about when I was coming for Christmas. Me and BF talked about me coming on Monday as I ordered his presents late and they're arriving all this week at your house so I was worrying about getting them wrapped them. I hope you're not getting as stressed as me! Is there anything you want me to bring on Thursday? Please let me know what I can do to help. Leave us a list of jobs and we will do them! See you soon xx

I wouldn’t send this either. If I got that I’d wonder why someone was focused on gift wrapping as a marathon event. You don’t need to wrap them as they come in the front door. Surely, if they have OPs name on the box they would be put aside for her and after she arrives, settles in and does what’s needed to help she could then excuse herself to wrap them. I imagine 45mins tops. If someone told me they had to arrive days early to wrap gifts I’d think they were a fruit. Also, wouldn’t put in the stressed bit. About what? The wrapping? The MIL likely has so much to do, alongside working up to Xmas and then OP writes to her that she is stressed? If I was MIL I’d think ‘??? huh, your stressed? I’ll show you stress given I have to do all the racing round and life management for 3 child adults’ etc and to be frank it would just piss me off.

Twillow · 23/12/2021 05:33

@HoppingPavlova
Yes, actually you could leave out the middle two sentences in my edit and it would still be sufficient!

CampagVelocet · 23/12/2021 06:14

OP - if I can offer some unrelated advice - don't go and do a Masters next year. It won't help with a career and will just allow you to indulge yourself and put off growing up for another year. Just bite the bullet and get a permanent job. Stop faffing about.

A580Hojas · 23/12/2021 06:14

Your op is a really really really long explanation for a situation that could be summed up in a couple of sentences! Can't you be a bit more understanding towards your partner's mum? Christmas is hard work and having an extra guest in the house for a week makes it even harder. You also seem married to this idea that you "always go for a week" whereas you can only have done that once, in 2019, if you've not been with your dp for 3 years yet?

At 25 you should not be asking your mother to give up her free time to be giving you lifts.

You come across as 10 years younger tbh.

CampagVelocet · 23/12/2021 06:15

And yeah, definitely don't send that waffly text. You can't tell her off for not being gushingly enthusiastic about you staying! Just be succinct. 'Sorry for the confusion but I'm now coming in Thursday. Is there anything you'd like me to bring? Thank you so much for hosting, I really appreciate it.'

Vanishun · 23/12/2021 06:48

"You come across as 10 years younger tbh." If OP is on the spectrum (and I definitely think it's worth getting assessed!) then this could be true - apparently we're emotionally immature and a good few years behind everyone else.

I also agree that doing a masters is a delaying tactic, unless you absolutely know for sure that your career needs it. I say this as someone who did one (in retrospect) as a delaying tactic. I wasted a lot of time and money!

As well as not sending that message OP, you should be careful how you chat to her when you're there. Don't say these things either in the hopes of making her feel bad or sorry for you. Instead, be positive and cheery and brave.

Groovee · 23/12/2021 08:24

My Dd is 21 and lives at uni, her boyfriend is 23 and lives at home. He stayed here last week as it was my birthday. He was here when his mum called to say his brother had arrived home for Christmas and had tested positive on a lateral flow test for Covid and could he stay longer.

It wasn't my plan to have him here for 10 days but it is a safer plan. He's been helpful round the house and working from home.

I get that maybe him not listening to his mum is what is what has got her back up. It might not be what you planned and you may be having difficulty processing the last minute change. Go Christmas Eve instead and come back Boxing Day.

ShirleyPhallus · 23/12/2021 09:43

i ordered his presents late and they're arriving all this week at your house so I was worrying about getting them wrapped them. I hope you're not getting as stressed as me!

My god do not say that you’re stressed at the prospect of wrapping some presents! Some of the advice on MN is nuts

PumpkinEye · 23/12/2021 09:59

I ordered his presents late and they're arriving all this week at your house so I was worrying about getting them wrapped them. I hope you're not getting as stressed as me!

Dear god, don’t write or say this! Wrapping a few presents is not stressful, or in any way to be compared to hosting Christmas. Blush

I’d be seriously angry if I revieved a text like that. Terrible advice.

SecretKeeper1 · 27/12/2021 18:05

@PinkStarAtNight how are you getting on? Hope everything is ok and you’ve had a lovely Xmas!

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