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To not comply...?

287 replies

Largethighsbadeyes · 18/12/2021 22:42

...if the government imposes restrictions over Christmas, given what we now know happened last Christmas with parties at downing street.

The possibility of this is rumour at the moment and hadn't been confirmed but I'm interested to see how others are feeling.

By restrictions I mean rule of 6 indoors for Christmas day or even no mixing of households for Christmas eve, Christmas day, boxing day.

I will not comply. I cannot do that to my child who is an only child and whose grandad is dying. He wants to be with extended (but very close) family at Christmas, as do I.

If we all test negative the day before we will be carrying on as normal regardless of the rules (all adults triple vaccinated)

YABU - I will follow the restrictions if brought in over Christmas

YANBU - i will not follow restrictions if brought in over Christmas

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SickAndTiredAgain · 19/12/2021 00:05

[quote xxxGirlCrushxxx]@sst1234 nope... just asking what this refusal to comply will look like 😊

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I think you will always get people who will break whatever rules possible.

So if everything is shut and you can’t mix in houses, they’ll mix in houses.

If you can meet indoors but only 2 households, some people will do more.

If restaurants are open but you can only go with people you live with, some people will lie (a couple who don’t live together can easily say they do, for example).

At the moment, some people who could wear a mask don’t wear one.

I’m sure there are people who don’t isolate and get a test if they have symptoms, they just keep quiet and carry on regardless.

There will always be rules that are hard or impossible to police, so those will be the ones that get broken, to varying degrees, by different people. All of the those rules above could be broken without much difficulty.

Radom · 19/12/2021 00:06

Well to those who say when your loved one dies because you didn’t listen. Well I stayed away from my family for 18 months and one had to isolate due to health reasons. She stay in as told, got jabbed as told. Only went back out when told. Yet passed away from it anyway I can never get that time missed back. So I really don’t fancy missing anymore.

xxxGirlCrushxxx · 19/12/2021 00:07

@KilmordenCastle wrong on both counts, remain 'baffled'

Sparklingbrook · 19/12/2021 00:09

Oh no will there be a flurry of curtain twitchy should I report my neighbours threads again. Please no.

sst1234 · 19/12/2021 00:11

@Sparklingbrook

Oh no will there be a flurry of curtain twitchy should I report my neighbours threads again. Please no.
Too true. Even now you see threads where OP is talking about something totally unrelated to Covid and mentions seeing a family member last December and number of sheep pipe up to have a go at OP for her breaking lockdown rules. Some people really need to get a life…of their own.
Thewiseoneincognito · 19/12/2021 00:12

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SickAndTiredAgain · 19/12/2021 00:12

[quote xxxGirlCrushxxx]@KilmordenCastle wrong on both counts, remain 'baffled'[/quote]
Baffled by what?

Surely you can understand how people can not comply? Even if you don’t understand why they wouldn’t comply, or disagree strongly with their reasons for doing so. The “how” is easy.

XenoBitch · 19/12/2021 00:13

@Sparklingbrook

Oh no will there be a flurry of curtain twitchy should I report my neighbours threads again. Please no.
There will be people waiting for this very moment. Their time to shine as self appointed lockdown police has come again.
Sparklingbrook · 19/12/2021 00:15

I think if there is another lockdown the Coronavirus topic will need a few subsections for the lockdown police.

LifeIsWhat · 19/12/2021 00:15

"lockdown enthusiasts like yourself really lack empathy on this topic as well as statistical awareness on how many people will be killed by restrictions. "

KilmordenCastle · 19/12/2021 00:15

[quote xxxGirlCrushxxx]@KilmordenCastle wrong on both counts, remain 'baffled'[/quote]
So why put forward that argument then? Why ask a question when the answer is so glaringly obvious? What's the point? Seriously, I'd really like to know.

MeMumI · 19/12/2021 00:17

In the first countdown, I trusted the government and followed all the rules implicitly. But ever since Barnard's castle, I've much more made my own decisions.

I'm not saying I know better than the scientists or that I'm taking stupid risks, but with a father who has dementia and is at times abusive towards my mother, I have to factor in other things than just the science. We're all triple vaccinated, as are my parents, and I'll always do a LFT before I go and see them, but I won't ever abandon my mother again.

Thewiseoneincognito · 19/12/2021 00:19

@Sparklingbrook

I think if there is another lockdown the Coronavirus topic will need a few subsections for the lockdown police.
And for the tantrums by the I will not comply crowd. Seriously they’re embarrassing themselves now 😂🤣😂 Where on earth have they all come from?! MN is awash with them 🤭
sst1234 · 19/12/2021 00:22

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ChristmasCovid · 19/12/2021 00:23

I will comply, purely because a close friend is now in hospital she had mild Covid late October, thought she had not been affected at all and now is on on life support with Bacterial endocarditis.
She was healthy, runs marathons- I’m just absolutely heartbroken for her and her family, which includes 3 young children.

And for all those that might say any form of lockdown doesn’t affect me, I run a nightclub that is likely to go bust - but restrictions are better than losing loved ones before there time.

Uninterested · 19/12/2021 00:24

I will be complying and it’s nothing to do with the fact that it means we won’t be able to visit my MIL. 😈

KilmordenCastle · 19/12/2021 00:24

And for the tantrums by the I will not comply crowd. Seriously they’re embarrassing themselves now 😂🤣😂
Where on earth have they all come from?! MN is awash with them 🤭

Erm..... I don't know how many people you've spoken to irl over the last few months, but the whole fucking country is awash with people that have had enough of restrictions. I know very few people that would be willing to comply with further restrictions.

chaosrabbitland · 19/12/2021 00:25

im not complying , im carrying on and visiting who i want over christmas and before and after , not wearing a mask now . refuse to do that again and im sure as not hell doing lft s tests , havent done one since covid began not starting now just because theres a new varient

bumblenbean · 19/12/2021 00:30

I probably wouldn’t comply with a full on lockdown and would have our small family Christmas (6 adults plus 2 kids) regardless, but I wouldn’t take the piss and am not mixing in big groups anyway.

Unfortunately for me our Christmas plans have already gone tits up, as 2 of the 6 adults tested positive today so will be in isolation 🤨

Sick to death of the entire clusterfuck, as I know everyone is

SpaceComma · 19/12/2021 00:30

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SituationCritical · 19/12/2021 00:30

Not complying isn't always people wanting to a "rebel" and having a good old laugh by going to parties and and sticking two fingers up at the establishment. A lot of people, like me, are teetering on the brink. The past year of minimal to no mental health help and no access to a GP when on the brink of suicide, the pressure of trying to keep a business open and employees in a job and safe, trying to help my teenage ASD son make sense of a situation amplified by the media to apocalyptic levels. Sometimes the only thing keeping you going is something like seeing your family. I'm triple vaccinated, we all take LFT and I don't go out clubbing and I wear a mask. I couldn't give two shits about pissing off Boris by ignoring his decrees, I'd just like to survive another month.

chaosrabbitland · 19/12/2021 00:34

im dyslexic so the fact you need to have your pathetic sarky dig says a lot about your mentality doesnt it ?

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 19/12/2021 00:36

I'll still be seeing friends and family over Christmas. I didn't last year but I'm not doing it again

sst1234 · 19/12/2021 00:37

@chaosrabbitland

im dyslexic so the fact you need to have your pathetic sarky dig says a lot about your mentality doesnt it ?
Agree. A lot of sheep who lack cognitive ability to think for themselves resort to cheap digs based on grammar and punctuation, rather than making an informed point.
Uninterested · 19/12/2021 00:37

OP, has started her non-compliance ahead of the game by posting a CORONAVIRUS thread in AIBU and not in the coronavirus section
(which I’ve hidden)

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