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To not comply...?

287 replies

Largethighsbadeyes · 18/12/2021 22:42

...if the government imposes restrictions over Christmas, given what we now know happened last Christmas with parties at downing street.

The possibility of this is rumour at the moment and hadn't been confirmed but I'm interested to see how others are feeling.

By restrictions I mean rule of 6 indoors for Christmas day or even no mixing of households for Christmas eve, Christmas day, boxing day.

I will not comply. I cannot do that to my child who is an only child and whose grandad is dying. He wants to be with extended (but very close) family at Christmas, as do I.

If we all test negative the day before we will be carrying on as normal regardless of the rules (all adults triple vaccinated)

YABU - I will follow the restrictions if brought in over Christmas

YANBU - i will not follow restrictions if brought in over Christmas

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sst1234 · 18/12/2021 23:45

Yes folks, enjoy your Turkey with your loved ones on Xmas day. Because after that you will be home schooling for months on end, watching your children a mental health, life chances and education deteriorate. Seeing good viable businesses go under. Inflation and cost of living increase. Being fobbed off by all types of services ‘because of Covid’. Not being able to travel and putting your life on hold for another 12 months. That Turkey with the loved ones, doesn’t sound so appealing, when your think of the madness of post Xmas restrictions.

CoffeeMuggins · 18/12/2021 23:46

given what we now know happened last Christmas with parties at downing street

It happened. They are pricks. Accept it, move on and don't be as bad as them.

xxxGirlCrushxxx · 18/12/2021 23:46

@XenoBitch

Over Christmas? No it won't (imo) happen over Christmas

Mid January I doubt people are all meeting up indoors as much. So how will people not comply after Christmas?

Thewiseoneincognito · 18/12/2021 23:47

Seriously, not another I will not comply tantrum thread.

LOL all the ones who commented on the other fifty today do you think if you say it often enough it’ll make Omicron go away?

Get a grip, it’s actually embarrassing how desperate this ideology comes across. The MN version of those fools protesting today like a bunch of kids stomping their feet. 🤣

xxxGirlCrushxxx · 18/12/2021 23:47

I suspect home schooling judging by the amount of blank workbooks for gcse core subjects my DS brought home

NannyGythaOgg · 18/12/2021 23:47

I won't change my behaviour because of others (government) actions. I do what I do because of who I am.

My family is small, none of us mix in high risk situations (eg recent Glasgow Cop26 or any indoor meeting). AND we will meet between 24 Dec and 2 January - just as we did last year.

They make their choices and I make mine.

What fucks me off is the economy they have ruined with evidence less restrictions, but I will never change my values on account of others being twats

NeverTalksToStrangers · 18/12/2021 23:48

My dad died esrlier this year from covid and we all really want to be together this Christmas. Supposed to be going to my sister's but I'll buy food for my family just in case. Everyone is going to test regularly. How many of us will make it until Saturday uninfected remains to be seen... all of us oldies are triple vacc'd. Wish us luck!

XenoBitch · 18/12/2021 23:48

[quote xxxGirlCrushxxx]@XenoBitch

Over Christmas? No it won't (imo) happen over Christmas

Mid January I doubt people are all meeting up indoors as much. So how will people not comply after Christmas?

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I will be meeting people indoors in Jan. It is the most depressing month! I am not going to spend it alone and risk my mental health.

sunflowerroses · 18/12/2021 23:49

I won't go to big parties or anything, but will see my sister (and family) and parents. Out of the 12 of us, 7 have had covid in last three weeks and all their lateral flows as well as PCRs were positive. The other 5 of us, 4 adults triple jabbed and one teenager with one jab. If our lateral flows are negative we will consider the risk low and meet up.

SickAndTiredAgain · 18/12/2021 23:50

[quote xxxGirlCrushxxx]@XenoBitch

Over Christmas? No it won't (imo) happen over Christmas

Mid January I doubt people are all meeting up indoors as much. So how will people not comply after Christmas?

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Of course people don’t meet up as much in Jan as they do on Christmas Day, but people do still see family/friends. And I’d imagine that plenty of people would continue to do so in Jan, regardless of restrictions. That’s how they wouldn’t comply, by meeting up in their house as they normally would.

xxxGirlCrushxxx · 18/12/2021 23:50

If non essential retail closes you will have to comply
Same with curfews, you will be forced to comply
Same with queuing to get in shops, you will have no choice
Same with schools closed.... comply or what?

See your family, but how will you feel if someone dies die to post Christmas'mixing'

Not sure I would want that guilt lingering whilst wearing my 'I'm a rebel' medal

TeenyWeenyWooWoo · 18/12/2021 23:50

@XenoBitch

You also won't have the vaccine. So in short, you won't do a damn thing to help this awful situation. We get it.

xxxGirlCrushxxx · 18/12/2021 23:51

So all you can think of to 'not comply' is to meet up on houses?? Assuming you will be welcome

Bit lame? I thought we would hear of some proper feisty non compliance here....but no

XenoBitch · 18/12/2021 23:52

[quote TeenyWeenyWooWoo]@XenoBitch

You also won't have the vaccine. So in short, you won't do a damn thing to help this awful situation. We get it.[/quote]
I can't have the vaccine also due to my mental health.
Why bring that up anyway? What on earth has it got to do with this thread.

RainbowBabyForChristmasPlease · 18/12/2021 23:52

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xxxGirlCrushxxx · 18/12/2021 23:53

@NeverTalksToStrangers good luck! Not long to go now

SickAndTiredAgain · 18/12/2021 23:53

@xxxGirlCrushxxx

So all you can think of to 'not comply' is to meet up on houses?? Assuming you will be welcome

Bit lame? I thought we would hear of some proper feisty non compliance here....but no

I didn’t say I’d do it.

You asked how people would not comply given that many of the restrictions you can’t ignore (closed schools, closed shops etc). I was just answering that specific question - indoor mixing is a rule people can ignore with very little chance of it being policed.

XenoBitch · 18/12/2021 23:54

@xxxGirlCrushxxx

So all you can think of to 'not comply' is to meet up on houses?? Assuming you will be welcome

Bit lame? I thought we would hear of some proper feisty non compliance here....but no

Ha, I am not sure what "feisty" non compliance would look like. Sorry to disappoint you.
sst1234 · 18/12/2021 23:55

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xxxGirlCrushxxx · 18/12/2021 23:56

@sst1234 nope... just asking what this refusal to comply will look like 😊

Sparklingbrook · 18/12/2021 23:56

Feisty non compliance. Could be breaking into the nail bar but I guess you’d still have to do your own nails.
Breaking into the nightclub and playing at being the DJ maybe?

Veeveeoxox · 18/12/2021 23:56

I won't comply COVID is here to stay , when the lockdown ends cases rise again we can't lockdown every winter it's ridiculous.

XenoBitch · 18/12/2021 23:57

@Sparklingbrook

Feisty non compliance. Could be breaking into the nail bar but I guess you’d still have to do your own nails. Breaking into the nightclub and playing at being the DJ maybe?
Illegal raves maybe? Or a secret pub lock in? A pub near me got fined during lockdown for being "open". The staff lived above it and got seen enjoying beer downstairs.
KilmordenCastle · 19/12/2021 00:01

@xxxGirlCrushxxx

You'll all have no choice but to comply with a lockdown early next year if it should happen though

If places are closed they are closed.....how will you rebel against that?

Whenever people trot out this argument I always think that either:
  • you must have no friends or family that you want to see so think that restaurants, shops, gyms etc closing are the only downsides of a lockdown
Or -you didn't understand the restrictions during the other lockdowns and were seeing your friends and family throughout so think that restaurants, shops, gyms etc closing are the only downsides of a lockdown.

Because how else can it be possible to not realise that when people say they won't comply with another lockdown they mean that they will be seeing friends and family? This completely baffles me Confused

sst1234 · 19/12/2021 00:01

[quote xxxGirlCrushxxx]@sst1234 nope... just asking what this refusal to comply will look like 😊

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Sure you were. Perhaps you may try asking the poster who started the thread about breaking self isolation as her mental health is shot to bits. She is absolutely at breaking point. Goady, lockdown enthusiasts like yourself really lack empathy on this topic as well as statistical awareness on how many people will be killed by restrictions. That number will be far higher than Covid. People who couldn’t get face to face GP appointments, peoples whose businesses went under, a generation of children whose life chances have been ruined.

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