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Am I hard work?

152 replies

softygirl · 18/12/2021 00:06

Been seeing this guy from work just over two months. On our first date he told me some very personal stuff about his family (dad was a violent drunk who used to beat up his mum and he left them and died without this being resolved between them). He cried when he told me this.

I've been in an abusive marriage and spoke about that. At the time it seemed natural and that he was confiding in me because he felt a strong connection but I'm aware it was quite intense for a first date.

A week or so later he told me about a traumatic event in his past where one of his friends drowned and he was there and felt he didn't do enough to save him. He carries this guilt with him and it leads to bouts of depression. He drinks to counter this.

Shortly after this he told me he had been sexually abused by his Nan's husband when he was ten and that he had never told anyone this, not even his mum or his twin brother.

By this time I felt that this was quite a lot to offload on me, he is adamant the only thing he is not over is the friend drowning and this is what makes him depressed. I was in part flattered that he felt he could tell me this but also a bit nonplussed about how I could help him get over these things.

I'm 12 years older than him, have my own house, a good job and kids so I'm not looking for him to marry me or take care of me. When we're together we get on incredibly well and are very relaxed around each other.

A few weeks ago he got drunk and told me on WhatsApp that he loved me. I told him to tell me that in person if he still felt it but when we met in person he said he thought it was too early to say those words. I was upset about this as it felt disingenuous to have said it and then retracted it. He says he finds it hard to express these things without drinking.

He has ended things with me today because he says I am hard work. He says I analyse everything he says and play games with him. I do talk about his drinking and how it concerns me a lot, about his attitude when I am upset or angry (he becomes very defensive and puts the blame back on me). I've also encouraged him to see a counsellor and told him I don't think it's just his friends death he needs to deal with.

For a relatively short relationship it has been seriously intense. I have probably stuck with it because 98% of the time when we are together we feel very content. We don't speak about these issues and his drinking is only when he doesn't see me (which is quite a lot as I have my kids 60% of the time and he hasn't met them yet so doesn't see me when they are here).

The latest argument today was about the kids, he has bought them a Christmas present and talked about wanting to teach them it (it's a game he plays). I said we would have to wait until we were solid and for the long term before he met them and he said we weren't solid but despite that I had been dropping hints that I wanted him to meet them which was game playing. I told him we were going to see the new Spiderman film on Christmas Eve and he said he was going to see it alone and I mentioned jokingly that it would be funny if he came separately but sat down next to me and we pretended we didn't know each other. On reflection it was probably not the best joke but he sees that as me saying I want him to meet them.

Sorry for the long post, I guess I just want some perspective on what has gone on here. I've done a lot of work on myself since my marriage ended and I thought I had good boundaries but for some reason this man has made me feel really vulnerable and like I'm not a good person.

I know I need to get a grip

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ProudThrilledHappy · 18/12/2021 00:10

He sounds very intense, what is his housing situation?

MaskingForIt · 18/12/2021 00:11

Chuck this one back. There’s something not quite right about him.

It’s him, not you.

softygirl · 18/12/2021 00:11

He's got his own flat which I go to often and he really spoils me when I go there, it's very new and modern unlike my place!

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Moonpiglets · 18/12/2021 00:12

Run run run run

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 18/12/2021 00:12

He sounds like hard work, very immature and full of drama. You don't need him.

OppsUpsSide · 18/12/2021 00:12

Fucking hell love run for your life!

bonfireheart · 18/12/2021 00:12

I don't understand what the argument about the cinema was about, but you were right about him having counseling.

DropYourSword · 18/12/2021 00:13

I don’t think you sound like hard work in this situation!
I think you guys aren’t suited - arguments and break ups 2 months into a relationship are probably indicative that you could both find someone else better suited!

WithRosesAroundTheDoor · 18/12/2021 00:13

Run. There are sooo many red flags here. Run.

Steakpies · 18/12/2021 00:13

He thinks you're hard work?! This is like on friends when Janice tells Ross he's whiney!

gaslady14 · 18/12/2021 00:13

He sounds weird. Almost a bit sinister although I can't exactly say why. I'm glad you're no longer involved, you deserve much more than him.

madisonbridges · 18/12/2021 00:13

I don't know whether you're hard work or not from his perspective, but he's done you a massive favour. Walk away and keep walking. Youe done nothing to feel bad,sout. He has too many issues - I wouldn't have made it past the first date with him. He needs help.

Akire · 18/12/2021 00:13

You sound well shot. Anyone who off loads that about of trauma onto a stranger is not in a good place. Anyone turning your less than perfect response in his eyes into it’s your fault also well shot of him.
You are right to say no meeting kids yet certainly not as new partner. Give yourself few days get your head straight. Work on those boundaries sometimes there are people who can worm their way in when you least expect it, resist urge block him move on.

DamnYouAutoCarRental · 18/12/2021 00:14

After reading that I think he sounds like very hard work.

madisonbridges · 18/12/2021 00:15

@softygirl

He's got his own flat which I go to often and he really spoils me when I go there, it's very new and modern unlike my place!
Oh well, if he's got a new flat...

Don't you value yourself over a flat? 🙄

ProudThrilledHappy · 18/12/2021 00:16

Well with the trying to meet your kids and saying I love you, I wondered if he was trying to get his foot in the door. Maybe not but he definitely comes across as very intense, maybe he needs more time to work on himself before he tries a relationship

LawnFever · 18/12/2021 00:16

Wow you’re not the one who’s hard work here, he sounds like he has way too much stuff going on.

I’d feel really uncomfortable someone offloading all of that so early on when you hardly know him, no sorry this wouldn’t be for me.

Christoncrutches · 18/12/2021 00:17

you're focusing on the wrong thing - his drinking is a bigger issue than how 'hard work' you are - he screams 'gaslighter'. Deflecting from his glaring issues by accusing you of something to make you feel insecure. And it's working by the sounds of it.

He has weakened you, so get some counselling about why you're drawn to this type of man - chances are you're one of life's caretakers and guys like this are like a moth to a flame.

Don't introduce him to your kids - that would be bananas.

Yummypumpkin · 18/12/2021 00:17

He is not normal.

Really, you do sound switched on. But you need to listen to your instincts.

Do not let him back and beware the drunk texts heading soon your way.

Thank god you didn't let him meet your kids!

softygirl · 18/12/2021 00:18

When we met I was very independent and dating lots of different people.

I don't know why he's got under my skin like this.

Yeah I know it sounds daft about his flat but it felt nice to be pampered

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WorraLiberty · 18/12/2021 00:18

No, he's the one who's hard work and he has a lot of baggage too.

I'm 12 years older than him, have my own house, a good job and kids so I'm not looking for him to marry me or take care of me.

No, but I bet he's looking for you to marry him and take care of him and all the emotional stuff he's carrying with him.

santaclothes · 18/12/2021 00:20

On our first date he told me some very personal stuff about his family (dad was a violent drunk who used to beat up his mum and he left them and died without this being resolved between them). He cried when he told me this.

That would have been the end of it for me. Too intense for a first date.

Phoenix76 · 18/12/2021 00:22

He’s broken op and you can’t be the glue to stick this one back together.

Any kind of relationship shouldn’t be this hard so early on, these are the times when it’s exciting and fun not all this bloody nonsense.

For your own sake and for that of your dc, get out of that situation as if you were fleeing a burning building. There is no rush to be with someone, especially not someone more toxic than a drop of arsenic.

Disabrie22 · 18/12/2021 00:23

Run for the hills!!! He’s got under your skin because he’s told you about his problems - then gas lighted you into thinking you are a problem!
Absolutely no way should you have a long relationship here - it’ll be a nightmare.

Yummypumpkin · 18/12/2021 00:23

@softygirl

When we met I was very independent and dating lots of different people.

I don't know why he's got under my skin like this.

Yeah I know it sounds daft about his flat but it felt nice to be pampered

It doesn't sound daft.

He got under your skin by faking intimacy or rather forcing intimacy.

He told you of trauma, abuse and death. This, as you are an empathetic person, created a level of emotional involvement...it mimicked but was not trust, intimacy, honesty and connection...all the things you crave.

But he's a pushy, selfish person.

Before you got the hence to observe his personality obectively he engineered a dynamic where you were his confidante, the only person he could tell...ffs crying on a first date.

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