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Am I hard work?

152 replies

softygirl · 18/12/2021 00:06

Been seeing this guy from work just over two months. On our first date he told me some very personal stuff about his family (dad was a violent drunk who used to beat up his mum and he left them and died without this being resolved between them). He cried when he told me this.

I've been in an abusive marriage and spoke about that. At the time it seemed natural and that he was confiding in me because he felt a strong connection but I'm aware it was quite intense for a first date.

A week or so later he told me about a traumatic event in his past where one of his friends drowned and he was there and felt he didn't do enough to save him. He carries this guilt with him and it leads to bouts of depression. He drinks to counter this.

Shortly after this he told me he had been sexually abused by his Nan's husband when he was ten and that he had never told anyone this, not even his mum or his twin brother.

By this time I felt that this was quite a lot to offload on me, he is adamant the only thing he is not over is the friend drowning and this is what makes him depressed. I was in part flattered that he felt he could tell me this but also a bit nonplussed about how I could help him get over these things.

I'm 12 years older than him, have my own house, a good job and kids so I'm not looking for him to marry me or take care of me. When we're together we get on incredibly well and are very relaxed around each other.

A few weeks ago he got drunk and told me on WhatsApp that he loved me. I told him to tell me that in person if he still felt it but when we met in person he said he thought it was too early to say those words. I was upset about this as it felt disingenuous to have said it and then retracted it. He says he finds it hard to express these things without drinking.

He has ended things with me today because he says I am hard work. He says I analyse everything he says and play games with him. I do talk about his drinking and how it concerns me a lot, about his attitude when I am upset or angry (he becomes very defensive and puts the blame back on me). I've also encouraged him to see a counsellor and told him I don't think it's just his friends death he needs to deal with.

For a relatively short relationship it has been seriously intense. I have probably stuck with it because 98% of the time when we are together we feel very content. We don't speak about these issues and his drinking is only when he doesn't see me (which is quite a lot as I have my kids 60% of the time and he hasn't met them yet so doesn't see me when they are here).

The latest argument today was about the kids, he has bought them a Christmas present and talked about wanting to teach them it (it's a game he plays). I said we would have to wait until we were solid and for the long term before he met them and he said we weren't solid but despite that I had been dropping hints that I wanted him to meet them which was game playing. I told him we were going to see the new Spiderman film on Christmas Eve and he said he was going to see it alone and I mentioned jokingly that it would be funny if he came separately but sat down next to me and we pretended we didn't know each other. On reflection it was probably not the best joke but he sees that as me saying I want him to meet them.

Sorry for the long post, I guess I just want some perspective on what has gone on here. I've done a lot of work on myself since my marriage ended and I thought I had good boundaries but for some reason this man has made me feel really vulnerable and like I'm not a good person.

I know I need to get a grip

OP posts:
CheshireKitten123 · 18/12/2021 06:17

"He has ended things with me today because he says I am hard work."

It seems there are a lot of mirrors in his house !

Seriously, he's done you a big favour.

Run for the hills !

LittleEsme · 18/12/2021 06:18

@DifficultBloodyWoman

This is such a brilliant post and should be pinned in Relationships. So many issues with awful men are the same.

Yes. This.

Also 100% agree.
HollyandIvyandAllThingsYule · 18/12/2021 06:22

Oh I missed the bit where he ended things.

Thank fuck for that.

BirdyBirdyTweetTweet · 18/12/2021 06:25

I can't stress enough - please please please don't get involved with him again.

Just read back what you wrote.

Crying on a first date ?! WTF

He needs his mummy / therapist.

You need to move on.

DBI78 · 18/12/2021 06:26

He sounds intense and all over place. This does not bode well for long term. I would chalk it up and consider it a lucky escape. You sound as though you are needing support which is fine as long as the person your wanting support from is a positive in your life. But it's also important to feel ok with your self and being single so the choices you make for yourself and your kids are good ones.

savethatkitty01 · 18/12/2021 06:30

My God. Run now, while you still have a chance. All that intensity & telling you his woes & YOUR hard work...

mistermagpie · 18/12/2021 06:36

Well I'm glad this one seems to be over because he sounds horrible. Personally I wouldn't have stayed past that first date and there isn't a chance in hell he'd be meeting my kids.

Consider this a lucky escape, he sounds incredibly manipulative and you would spend the rest of your life apologising for things you hadn't said or done just to keep him happy, and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it because of his 'traumatic life' which somehow you would end up being responsible for. No thank you.

Hesma · 18/12/2021 06:38

Sounds to me like he has many issues and unfortunately that would be a red flag to me

pilates · 18/12/2021 06:46

Sounds like you have dodged a bullet.

There is a lot of mention of alcohol and he has issues.

Block and delete.

EewwwDavid · 18/12/2021 06:55

This man is a giant walking red flag. Lucky escape OP. You'll realise this once some time has passed and you can look back more objectively.

pictish · 18/12/2021 07:05

The list of red flags reply nails it.

Good grief end this now. He’ll destroy you to suit himself.

LetsHearIt · 18/12/2021 07:18

Agree with all that @CheekyHobson says in the red flag post.
Back away and distance yourself. Firm boundaries. So many red flags. I really wouldn't go there.

Riverlee · 18/12/2021 07:19

Wow, and he says you’re hard work! It sounds much too intense for an eight week relationship. It should be fun and games, not intense, off-loading. It’s good that he trusts you, to tell you all these things, but defiantly a bit heavy! He should also respect your boundaries regarding your kids. Maybe a nice gesture, but much too soon.

Definitely he did you a favour by ending it.

skodadoda · 18/12/2021 07:21

@softygirl

When we met I was very independent and dating lots of different people.

I don't know why he's got under my skin like this.

Yeah I know it sounds daft about his flat but it felt nice to be pampered

This, and your other posts, suggests he’s controlling. Happy to love bomb you on his own territory. Do you know anything about his previous relationships? He sounds toxic.
Doyoumind · 18/12/2021 07:24

Bullet well and truly dodged there.

Dozer · 18/12/2021 07:26

As PPs say, run for the hills! Have no contact. There is a risk of him harassing you.

Your choices to continue to date when he was behaving inappropriately (forced intimacy etc) and questioning yourself in response to his accusations suggests you’ve still some work to do with respect to recovering from your other abusive relationship and your ‘shark cage’.

Flowerydenimdress · 18/12/2021 07:32

How emotionally abusive is he? Run for the hills. The "joke" re kids would have been it for me. I felt unsettled just reading it.

Dentistlakes · 18/12/2021 07:37

This guy sounds like trouble op. I would stop all contact and move on. You are not hard work but he is and you don’t need that in your life.

anne2650 · 18/12/2021 07:38

I agree with the other posters - avoid avoid!

Bewareoftheblob · 18/12/2021 07:47

No no no he is not right. Fuck him off.

pictish · 18/12/2021 07:47

Seriously, I am an empathetic soul but I’d be instantly put off by a man crying over his tortured past on the first date. I’d assume he was trying to manipulate me from the outset as well as worrying about him being generally unstable. It’s not good first impressions dating behaviour is it?

I’d have had him down as a tough gig and not what I’m looking for at all.

MrsToothyBitch · 18/12/2021 07:51

Block, delete and move on. He's got more red flags than a Moscow parade and unless you take steps to keep him out, he likely won't stay out. This is just part of a cycle and he'll decide he wants to "be in your life", "forgive you" etc. It's bullshit and manipulation. Then he starts again. It's amazing how people so determined to reject you will simultaneously want you...

I was loosely seeing someone similar for a little while. Huge game player, loved to criticise & lay down law. Would sulk, give me weeks of silent treatment, always had to have an angle of attack- but couldn't take a word of criticism back. He had a nice flat, too. Took me a couple of go rounds to spot the pattern. Once I did it, he was blocked. Good luck OP.

Grumpyosaurus · 18/12/2021 07:51

Another one sayong ditch him. He's calling you bitter and hateful, while trying to manipulate you.

CityMumma78 · 18/12/2021 07:52

Wow I think you’ve dodged a bullet there, he sounds broken!!

Changecountetextraordinaire · 18/12/2021 08:04

Lucky escape there. Think nothing more about it, read a few books on toxic relationships so you can recognise a red flag early on and move on.

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