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Am I hard work?

152 replies

softygirl · 18/12/2021 00:06

Been seeing this guy from work just over two months. On our first date he told me some very personal stuff about his family (dad was a violent drunk who used to beat up his mum and he left them and died without this being resolved between them). He cried when he told me this.

I've been in an abusive marriage and spoke about that. At the time it seemed natural and that he was confiding in me because he felt a strong connection but I'm aware it was quite intense for a first date.

A week or so later he told me about a traumatic event in his past where one of his friends drowned and he was there and felt he didn't do enough to save him. He carries this guilt with him and it leads to bouts of depression. He drinks to counter this.

Shortly after this he told me he had been sexually abused by his Nan's husband when he was ten and that he had never told anyone this, not even his mum or his twin brother.

By this time I felt that this was quite a lot to offload on me, he is adamant the only thing he is not over is the friend drowning and this is what makes him depressed. I was in part flattered that he felt he could tell me this but also a bit nonplussed about how I could help him get over these things.

I'm 12 years older than him, have my own house, a good job and kids so I'm not looking for him to marry me or take care of me. When we're together we get on incredibly well and are very relaxed around each other.

A few weeks ago he got drunk and told me on WhatsApp that he loved me. I told him to tell me that in person if he still felt it but when we met in person he said he thought it was too early to say those words. I was upset about this as it felt disingenuous to have said it and then retracted it. He says he finds it hard to express these things without drinking.

He has ended things with me today because he says I am hard work. He says I analyse everything he says and play games with him. I do talk about his drinking and how it concerns me a lot, about his attitude when I am upset or angry (he becomes very defensive and puts the blame back on me). I've also encouraged him to see a counsellor and told him I don't think it's just his friends death he needs to deal with.

For a relatively short relationship it has been seriously intense. I have probably stuck with it because 98% of the time when we are together we feel very content. We don't speak about these issues and his drinking is only when he doesn't see me (which is quite a lot as I have my kids 60% of the time and he hasn't met them yet so doesn't see me when they are here).

The latest argument today was about the kids, he has bought them a Christmas present and talked about wanting to teach them it (it's a game he plays). I said we would have to wait until we were solid and for the long term before he met them and he said we weren't solid but despite that I had been dropping hints that I wanted him to meet them which was game playing. I told him we were going to see the new Spiderman film on Christmas Eve and he said he was going to see it alone and I mentioned jokingly that it would be funny if he came separately but sat down next to me and we pretended we didn't know each other. On reflection it was probably not the best joke but he sees that as me saying I want him to meet them.

Sorry for the long post, I guess I just want some perspective on what has gone on here. I've done a lot of work on myself since my marriage ended and I thought I had good boundaries but for some reason this man has made me feel really vulnerable and like I'm not a good person.

I know I need to get a grip

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RestingMurderousFace · 18/12/2021 01:37

He's got more issues than the National Geographic. You'd be insane to even consider dating him after all of that!

WhoopsWhatsMyNameAgain · 18/12/2021 01:38

Red flags!!!!

He has way too many problems and the drinkings a big red flag to me.

You have kids, don't pursue a relationship that isn't right. This man is bad news. Move on x

SunnyLeaf · 18/12/2021 01:39

He sounds potentially abusive, he’s certainly trying to groom you to accept shoddy behaviour. The description of him/his behaviour also gives me the creeps, don’t know why. You’d be mad to stay in this, especially with this. Trust your gut here.

Wagamamasforlunch · 18/12/2021 01:41

A week or so later he told me about a traumatic event in his past where one of his friends drowned and he was there and felt he didn't do enough to save him. He carries this guilt with him and it leads to bouts of depression. He drinks to counter this.

I'm probably a stone cold hard bitch, but what I heard here is that he used his friends death to justify his drinking problem. .

You can't fix him OP. Been there, done that, doesn't work and will suck the life out of you.

Doesn't part of you feel relieved that he has ended it?

softygirl · 18/12/2021 01:46

He's started drunk texting me

"You're bitter and hateful at the minute. And that's not the you we both liked"

Sheesh how was I so blind?

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DifficultBloodyWoman · 18/12/2021 01:53

@RestingMurderousFace

He's got more issues than the National Geographic. You'd be insane to even consider dating him after all of that!
Love this! I’m so stealing that line!
DifficultBloodyWoman · 18/12/2021 01:54

OP, someone in this relationship is hard work but it isn’t you.

Read all of the other advice posted here and follow it.

WhatIsThisPlease · 18/12/2021 02:00

More red flags than a Liverpool home game.

Run!!!!!

eveningbubble · 18/12/2021 02:00

fecking close up those boundaries a bit Op, this is a sheer loser. Nobody normal tells a person they've only met this stuff only to manipulate them or because they are unstable after the events if they were recent.

Cleopatracat · 18/12/2021 02:04

I'm really glad you've got rid of him and he's drunk texting so you won't go back with him. Something about your post gave me the creeps. I bet he's a bad un

Yummypumpkin · 18/12/2021 02:06

@softygirl

He's started drunk texting me

"You're bitter and hateful at the minute. And that's not the you we both liked"

Sheesh how was I so blind?

As predicted.

I really would block as my concern is that he pushes a button, you reply and you go through an upsetting exchange.

Stay strong! What a mess he is.

Yummypumpkin · 18/12/2021 02:06

And this is clearly manipulative and abusive.

softygirl · 18/12/2021 02:13

I'm not feeling upset at all, I'm so empowered by your support, all of you. I'm so much better than this!

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NotAnotherAlias · 18/12/2021 02:28

That’s great to hear @softygirl. You definitely are so much better than this and it’s wonderful you realise it, because so many don’t and end up getting sucked back in.

Stay strong, maybe put the phone away and try to get some sleep.

PurpleSapphire · 18/12/2021 02:28

Run, run, run. This is lovebombing, I don't know how to do links but google it. I'll bet in the morning he'll be apologetic, maybe you'll get flowers. You'll feel sorry for him. Don't even go there, it's all a game.

TheNestedIf · 18/12/2021 02:37

I am pretty sure he is using you as an(other) reason to drink by repeatedly, passive aggressively, causing conflict. I knew someone who did exactly this. Fairly sure that person is now dead, either through drink, or through drunken self-pity. He was intense, too, and made his on/off girlfriend's life an absolute self-doubting, second-guessing misery, because of the drama he created out of nothing with depressing regularity, and because he then maneuvered her into feeling responsible in order to create the excuse to drink.

A normal man would have understood and backed off at being asked to wait to meet the children. This guy has kicked up a fuss then immediately got drunk. Classic. Hope he stays dumped and that you feel better soon.

1forAll74 · 18/12/2021 02:54

He needs to work on himself and stop being depressed about the past, and to cut down on the drinking, which makes things worse. He should not be offloading all his problems onto you,in a new relationship.

maddiemookins16mum · 18/12/2021 02:58

Omg, he’s an alcoholic for a start, let alone the rest of it.
Stay well clear.

GreyGoose1980 · 18/12/2021 03:01

Run for the hills OP. He sounds abusive. Don’t let him worm his way back with dramatic apologies and flowers. Block him and move on - he’s creepy.

Bogeyes · 18/12/2021 03:10

He sounds like a lot of trouble

SameToo · 18/12/2021 03:17

He’s gaslighting you. Block and give a wide berth.

BringOnTheOtherWorlders · 18/12/2021 03:30

There's something seriously wrong with him. I bet you have a hard time getting away from him. He will re-appear over and over.

He's a manipulative abusive alcoholic.

Laserbird16 · 18/12/2021 03:45

I'd thank your lucky stars, you are well rid of this guy. I'd tell him you agreed that it isn't going to work between you two (as he is fucking insane) and wish him luck, then block.

ThePoint678 · 18/12/2021 03:52

I’ve no idea if you’re too needy but he is way too intense and you need to just cut him loose and move on.

EleonorBronte · 18/12/2021 03:56

if someone told me something so intense on a first date that they cried, i would get the fuck out. don't be manipulated by a 'sensitive man', this is utter bollox, and at the very least suggests a troubled background (that will harm you) and a lack of boundaries.
In fact I would go so far as to call this a red flag. Too much drama.
If you identify with this or think it is ok, i would recommend counselling.

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