ok, i probably am, but the way new mothers do thing s now, and there attitude is really getting on my nerves.

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rant alert
te entire holier than thou attitude. huge genreralistaion, i know. but whats so speical about waiting till the baby is six months old before weaning that will garantee said mothers a direct ticket to heaven?
from what i recall, upping the age to six months didnt happen because of some amazing scintific breakthrough. no new data was used t o make the decision. (a mnetter showed the evidence of this on some thread.
and then the whole breast bottle thing. the ones spouting statistics at everyone, with their smug expressions. it doesnt matter. every mom does what she sees as best for her baby. we dont constantly need to have information shoved in our noses.

my eldest is ten, and youngest four, so i'm not that far away from these subjects, but, some peoples attitudes just really really get on my tits.

vs, you are giving them info. as i stated inthe thread title, i think i am problyly being unreasobale, but some people do preach on and on and non about it. and that is what annoys me.
though i could simply stay away those threads.

some studies have shown hb to be safer than hospital births, in problem free/low risk pregnancies.

Thats why we like it, although i dont want a prize, just a nice birth without a dragon MW kicking dp out an hour after db2 born.

holier than thou!

you are saying, do it like me, and don;t dare be proud of yourself for achieving something out of the ordinary

if you have good experiences you want to share dont u..but u dont have to listen

ignore the threads that are preaching about things you have no interest in and let the posters who are interested in it, learn from it , as they clearly want to !!!!!!

And the support.
God, what about the lovely support, when Expat and I miscarried recently.
What about that lovely lady, whose husband suddenly died when he was fishing.
How can we ever underestimate the support Mumsnett gives us.

cammilla, i am saying do it the way you want to do it.the way that makes you happiery, but dont make out that i should be handing you a prize for doing it your way. i frankly dont care.

yes, i agree, that in low risk births it is much less stressful having it at home. but a great many homebirtheres that i have heard from on mn are quite militant aboutit.

oblomov, i never criticised mumsnet.
i love mumsnet. it is my reason for being.

By weaning do you mean total solids or just topping up the milk with a little rice etc. to fill up a hungry baby?
I am old enough and have had the kids far enough apart to have experienced both sides of the coin. And I must say supplementing their milk with a little food at 12 weeks worked much better. The babies felt fuller, slept longer and were less cranky. Meaning Mum was less cranky as well.

Ugh, that word again 'militant' I'm going to ask MNHQ to ban that flipping word.

Scorpio thanks

Thing is, new mums aren't given all the info they need to make their decisions. Or they're given inaccurate information. Why is it holier than thou to want to make sure mums have the latest information? They can take it or leave it surely.

One friend of mine who is an HV said she still finds mums crumbling crisps into their babies' formula at about 8 weeks to start weaning them.

Weaning at 6 months is not about amazing scientific breakthrough. It's from learning more about how immature a a baby's gut is and is basically unable to manage anything other than milk.

Exactly winkywinola.

I have read that introducing gluten before 10months can cause lots of problems but haven't seen that publicised much.

Seems to me that any hint of smuggery on mn is jumped on quickly anyway.

Although just saying "I had a wonderful homebirth" or suchlike isnt being smug, you should be allowed to be pleased with yourself about such things without being sneered at. Think perhaps this says more about OP's sensitivities than anything else.

"but dont make out that i should be handing you a prize for doing it your way. i frankly dont care."

no-one is asking for a prize

or asking you to care

but you clearly do, or you would not have started your thread!!

yes there are militant homebirthers and breastfeeders on here, militant in as much as they are passionate about a subject, learnt about it, experienced it , and if someone asks a question about it, they answer it , with passion and verve, and sometimes, even statistics!!!

and that is not the same as being holier than thou or smug

there is a difference between experiencing something great, being proud and wanting to share than rubbing peoples faces in it and being smug

No-one is asking for prizes for making a choice that was good for them! What are you reading? Because it doesnt sound like any Mumsnet thread I've seen.

Homebirths, if you are interested, are utterly normal. It's how women give birth all over the world. Medicalised births, and the way that HCP's usher you into them should not be the standard. There is no reason why any mother cannot have a homebirth, unless they have pre-diagnosed condition that puts them (or their baby) at risk of complications.

It's not "endangering the life of your baby". Where are you getting your information from? (Sounds very much like HCP talk though ).

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I've not had a homebirth btw.....

doodle, exactly my point!
its things like that that really really get my goat.

ive had a homebirth..like many things in my lkife if not neqarly all of them it was unplanned

actually those are the ones that tend to be a bit risky

YABU
why don't you just avoid the bf / weaning threads as you don't need to read them?

It can easily work the other way round. People who are old timers, saying they can't believe that someone would do something so stupid.
But no everyone "knows".

Doodle - all my bottles are room temp. I did not do this with dd1 (basically because I thought you had to heat them up) but when dd2 came along I decided not to heat them up - much easier and dd2 takes her feeds no bother. My reasoning was is that they give you bottles in hospital at room temp so whats the difference??

i had pre eclampsia with my first, and with an aunt, moms sister, who lost a baby with preeclampsi, and her other sister who went eclampsic with her fourth, homebirth was not an option for me.
with second, i was terrified of having it again. so no homebirth
third, had spd, so didnt want to risk being in a wheelchair fo rmonths afterwards etc.

but, i agree totally that it is more natural and less stressful. being pregnant is not an illness.