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Husband asked if he could "get a BJ"

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hereforthechat · 11/12/2021 07:38

And I said no.

I'm on my period. My period lasts about ten days and we don't have sex during it. My husband occasionally makes comments about BJ's... like joking but not joking. Last night he did it and just kept doing it, so I said "to be clear, that's not happening". He got really grumpy about it. I took our 6yr old to bed (which typically takes ages), came back down and he had gone to bed in a mood.

I just find this so unattractive. Firstly, I don't like giving BJs. We have sex regularly but I just don't like oral. Also, I find it really uncomfortable to be asked for a BJ. Like do we just go upstairs and I service him then leave?... like a hooker? He just doesn't get why that's not very nice for me. Am I wrong here?

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swissmodel · 15/12/2021 01:25

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GreenEyeOfTheLittleYellowGod · 15/12/2021 01:26

@swissmodel

Your performative outrage doesn't really bother me. Address the point I made that the flipside of expecting sexual fidelity is being sexually available.
Bullshit. Your partner doesn't owe you sex. If you can't be faithful leave.
LobsterNapkin · 15/12/2021 01:27

As far as ancient societies and customs go, it's not as simple as people didn't like menstrual blood because they were misogynists.

Without modern facilities and products menstruation was much harder to manage than it is now, and hygiene actually was an issue. Menstrual blood is a biological product like other types of blood. People in the past did not always have access to the kinds of products that made it easy to go about their regular business, or great disposal options, and in some cases not great access to soap and water.

As well, sex when a woman is bleeding due to something like birth is not necessarily a great idea. Infection was a real possibility. Without antibiotics infections or UTIs were a totally different problem and it wasn't clear to people what might cause different kinds of bleeding.

Taboos around blood make a lot of sense, from a health perspective. It's unreasonable to think people should have just behaved as if they lived in the late 20th/21st.

GreenEyeOfTheLittleYellowGod · 15/12/2021 01:27

@swissmodel

Your performative outrage doesn't really bother me. Address the point I made that the flipside of expecting sexual fidelity is being sexually available.
Nobody is outraged, I'm sure we've all met our fair share of men like you Grin
Enough4me · 15/12/2021 01:37

Yes, met men like that and promptly dumped them.

It was worth it to have a partner who gets off on us both enjoying sex and it not being transactional.

me4real · 15/12/2021 01:41

@swissmodel Partly it's as much hilarity as distaste. I wonder if you want her to put on extra-porny screams for you and go 'Oh! Please! Give it to me now, it's sooo big!' about your half an inch and a dozen wrinkles. Grin

I think the days of people thinking marriage=sex on tap are a fair few decades ago. Someone said that to me in the mid 90s and I thought it was a weird way of looking at marriage even then.

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me4real · 15/12/2021 01:56

If you expect fidelity, be prepared to give. Otherwise it's just moronic, not to mention selfish, to expect fidelity. Nobody owes their partner not to have sex with anyone at all.

What a catch.

Enough4me · 15/12/2021 01:57

Be prepared to give Envy pass a sick bag please

GreenEyeOfTheLittleYellowGod · 15/12/2021 02:02

Lol. Is that your best comeback, an insult about the size of my penis? I'm off to cry in a corner...

Says the man who went for the tired old clichéd catlady joke.

Maybe read up on consent because your knowledge is lacking. I feel sorry for your partner.

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GreenEyeOfTheLittleYellowGod · 15/12/2021 02:04

@Enough4me

Be prepared to give Envy pass a sick bag please
I know right? Think my fanny just shut up shop permanently
Enough4me · 15/12/2021 02:05

I'll skip, he seems flaky and unreliable.

me4real · 15/12/2021 02:06
GreenEyeOfTheLittleYellowGod · 15/12/2021 02:08

@Enough4me

I'll skip, he seems flaky and unreliable.
Yes, that's definitely the issue Grin
swissmodel · 15/12/2021 02:39

Form an orderly queue ladies

No need. I'm quite happy with my wife.

MyDogLovesBiscuits · 15/12/2021 03:40

Incels are here. Lovely.

The call is coming from inside the house HmmAngry

Draineddraineddrained · 15/12/2021 06:19

@swissmodel

What I find most hideous about your post isn't even the fact you feel entitled to have sex with your partner when she's not in the mood (or how can she possibly expect you to be faithful, just hanging around waiting for her to - gasp - actually feel like having sex, or even - dry heave - put some time and effort into figuring out what gets her in the mood?).

It's the fact you say if she's obviously not into it you wouldn't do it, so you expect her to pretend to be.

So not only does the poor woman have to fuck when she doesn't want to, she has to put on a porn show for you to feel comfortable while you rape her.

I sometimes have sex with my partner when I don't want to particularly. Not because he's a shitheel who'll betray me if I don't and I'm so desperate for a man in my life I'll put up with being regularly raped to keep him; but because I know it is very important to him and I want him to be happy and for me it's a "would rather not but I'm ok with it" not a "I will genuinely feel awful if I have sex right now" thing (just so bloody tired re small kids, sex if done right for me requires a lot of energy I don't always have).

He knows this. So if I suggest/acquiesce to sex when I'm obviously not already "in the mood", he will put serious effort into making it pleasurable for me, or if I let it be known I'm up for a quickie for his benefit but not a sesh as it's just not happening for me he will move things along accordingly. Because he appreciates I'm a human being not a fuck doll, and a modern woman with rights and feelings not a dependant he has bought the rights to from my father and can do what he likes with.

And I don't have to wail and moan and put on a show or "pretend" I'm enjoying something when I'm not so his ego can cope with the fact I don't always get a thrill from sex with him. He's gracious enough to appreciate the gesture without me putting on a floor show.

And anyway this this thread isn't about "do partners owe each other sex within a monogamous relationship?" (Cough they don't, no-one owes anyone sex for faithfulness, you don't like what you're getting you can fuck off not cheat).

The thread is about whether you owe your partner any and all sex acts they may fancy regardless of if you find them painful and uncomfortable, and they know that.

So if your wife wants to truss you up like Marcellus Wallace and bang you with a strap-on, you'd pretend to be in the mood for that if it's what gets her off (I'm presuming here this is something you wouldn't enjoy for its own sake)? And if you said you weren't into it she'd be entitled to cajole and sulk and eventually cheat on you with someone who shared her fetish?

Draineddraineddrained · 15/12/2021 06:29

Also I'm interested in this "if you want sexual fidelity the flipside is make yourself sexually available" goes. Are you one of these pricks who demand blow jobs/hand jobs/anal from their wife during the postnatal period? Are you allowed to be unfaithful when for example your wife is bereaved and spends a week doing little but crying and therefore unavailable for sex (or at least is incapable of "pretending to be in the mood" as per your requirements)? If you want to do it morning and night every day, hoe many if any passes is she allowed before you feel justified shagging Marjorie from the office? How does she know when she's reached the fidelity tipping point and needs to up her "pretending"?

hotmeatymilk · 15/12/2021 07:13

For unlike every other need or want, sex is the only one that can't be fulfilled except with the spouse.
(a) it’s a want not a need and (b) have you heard of masturbating? I bet your wife has.

Enough4me · 15/12/2021 07:55

Love these last posts. Hope Mr Give me Sex, reads and reflects.

SpaceshiptoMars · 15/12/2021 08:29

"if you want sexual fidelity the flipside is make yourself sexually available"

People do make vows in church wedding ceremonies. Make of that what you will. But the porn explosion has racked up frightening expectations, that were never part of that deal. The two things do not belong in the same universe.

HollyandIvyandAllThingsYule · 15/12/2021 08:34

@Enough4me

Love these last posts. Hope Mr Give me Sex, reads and reflects.
I think you’re hoping against hope...
hotmeatymilk · 15/12/2021 08:47

Love these last posts. Hope Mr Give me Sex, reads and reflects.
I hope his wife reads them and gets out of dodge

me4real · 15/12/2021 10:03

People do make vows in church wedding ceremonies. Make of that what you will.

They sometimes say the 'and obey' bit as well, but we don't tend to think that's a good thing anymore.