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Aibu to expect an announcement soon?

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Thedogscollar · 10/12/2021 19:00

Given the fiasco of the last few days how can he possibly stay in office?

How can the Tories possibly think he is useful to them anymore when his private and work life are intertwined in sleaze and lie upon lie?

They say you reap what you sow. If this is true how is BJ even employed or in a relationship?

Aibu to expect an announcement from him soon. I live in hope.

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Poetrypatty · 10/12/2021 21:19

I’d be telling you all to fuck off and sort it yourselves then if you know so much

Essentially that's what we have more or less been doing given the leadership vacuum.

GreenLunchBox · 10/12/2021 21:19

Cummings says there are photos and I can't wait 👀

suzy2b · 10/12/2021 21:19

Mybalconyiscracking
I agree with you totally I'm feed up with it ,it happened a year ago get over it BJ wasn't even there. My exh died 2020 the hospital allow anyone in,my son didn't come down as we didn't think he would be allowed in , but at one time there was about 6 in there

Hearwego · 10/12/2021 21:22

I don’t blame Boris for covid, but his conduct and his some of his team and been lacking.
I’m fearful for the future. Economically I mean. National insurance is going up, energy bills are rocketing and fuel is going up.
Rents are going up, landlords can charge what they want in some areas, knowing there’s a waiting list.
People can’t afford to eat or put the heating on.
Meanwhile the poor are worse off whilst rich people get richer.
I honestly worry about future of the UK.

samsalmon · 10/12/2021 21:24

@VirusgonnaVirus

Rab not sure about him

Rab I like my holidays more than my responsibilities? No thanks

When he was running for the leadership, his slogan was Ready for Raab🙄 I don’t think even Raab is ready for Raab. When he had to briefly take the helm while BJ was in hospital, the man looked utterly terrified and out of his depth, his body language belied every ‘it’s all under control’ word.
bloodywhitecat · 10/12/2021 21:25

@Mybalconyiscracking

As I have said elsewhere, I cannot get exercised over a few civil servants getting together for some warm wine and sweaty cheese, over a year ago. This is what is known as a slow news day at the BBC!
I can because my husband has had to face a lot of his treatment for his cancer alone, including one of the largest surgeries that is performed. I had to drop him off at the hospital and drive away not knowing if/when I would see him again. Yet it was OK for them to enjoy cheese and nibbles while thumbing their noses to the rest of us.
lightisnotwhite · 10/12/2021 21:32

bloodywhitecat but if you had been allowed in the hospital every other next of kin would have be allowed in too. You want a load of random people mixing daily inside a fairly unventilated building?

That’s got nothing to do with staying on with people you work with, people working in schools with unvaccinated kids all day or working in supermarkets mixing with thousands of households,

julieca · 10/12/2021 21:37

The photos will I suspect appear over the weekend. This is not going away.

icedcoffees · 10/12/2021 21:43

[quote sopsmum]@Thedogscollar you don't speak for me and I was directly affected by the restrictions and was unable to see my father as he was dying in hospital. Please don't be so flippant with your words as it is hugely offensive. My family's tragedy is not your political ammunition.

The restrictions were right at the time. I cannot however get excited that people that were working together and in contact with each other for work reasons basically had a glass of wine after work. As did many medics that I know and I don't begrudge them either.

It is entirely different than general mixing and socialising. [/quote]
I agree with you @sopsmum and I am so sorry for your loss Thanks

DeliriaSkibbly · 10/12/2021 21:54

@FreeBritnee

I still like him.
Why ? Do you think he is your friend ?

He has a string of women he has cheated on in his past, children galore that he has said he cannot afford to maintain on his salary. He is homophobic, misogynistic and racist. He is incompetent and a liar.

Do you believe the carefully contrived image of him being "Boris, who's a bit of a laugh and just who you want to meet down the pub" ?

I am genuinely interested as to why, exactly, you like him.

Frazzled2207 · 10/12/2021 21:56

It just won’t happen.

I was thinking when that video of Allegra Stratton came out “surely she must resign now”. And she did immediately. Because although what she said was bang out of order, unlike Boris she knew it was wrong and couldn’t carry on. Boris just carries on regardless time and time again.

lightisnotwhite · 10/12/2021 22:03

It’s good to know what you’re getting.He doesn’t make moral claims nor does he expect others to be perfect.
He doesn’t blame others for his failures and he supports his colleagues rather than throwing them under the bus.

He’s got through Brexit and Covid. Not perfectly, but we’ll enough. He doesn’t do drama and grand gestures.

sjxoxo · 10/12/2021 22:04

Of course he should go. He shouldn’t have been in in the first place… they are all liars and they do not give a s* about anyone except their colleagues & mates. This isn’t shocking- I expect more & worse has occurred, we just don’t know about it. People are so gullable to still vote conservative in 2021; I find it shocking xo

Peregrina · 10/12/2021 22:17

lightisnotwhite - I think you must live in a parallel universe.

He only ever blames others for his failures. He supports colleagues when they have been shown to be blatantly in the wrong, instead of doing the honourable thing and asking for their resignation.

He's hardly got through Brexit - think of all the groups he has betrayed - start with the fishermen that he made such a fuss about. As for Covid, he hasn't got a clue. With his constant chopping and changing and mixed messages, is it any wonder that we don't know what to do for the best

As for doesn't do drama what's all this nonsense about messing up his hair before he appears in public. That's all he does. Even the silly peppa pig and forgive me forgive me was an act.

DerAlteMann · 10/12/2021 22:29

Nothing that has happened so far matters in the slightest. What DOES matter is that the Tories win next week's by-election in North Shropshire. If they lose or just manage to hang on, then I think the writing will be on the wall for BJ.

HyacynthBucket · 10/12/2021 22:31

Itloggedmeoutagain.
I am so very sorry for your loss and the awfulness of that time. I share your anger, not because of any such personal experience, but just generally an outrage at the lying and hypocrisy and self-serving, the arrogance and entitlement, the so undeserving assumption of "right to rule". The sooner he and his appalling crew go, the better.
Hoping this Christmas will be an easier one for you. Flowers

Mittenmob · 10/12/2021 22:36

People love him though, I have no idea why, but he's good for the Tories right now and will no doubt ride the booster jab wave and claim it as his victory when Omicron is defeated etc etc. He's desparate to be remembered as a great churchill like PM who steers us through this so I suspect in 20 years time when his chums have written all the books about the covid era that those of us that remember will be scratching our heads about his claimed prowess, whilst the next generation take it as fact that he was a great and wise leader (with lots of flags behind him)

PinkiOcelot · 10/12/2021 22:44

@Mybalconyiscracking you obviously haven’t been affected personally to have that attitude.

At that point in December, I hadn’t seen my mam since the February properly. Through a Perspex window doesn’t cut it. I couldn’t hold her hands. I couldn’t give her a hug. As she has Alzheimer’s, she didn’t have a clue what was happening.
She contracted covid from a resident returning from hospital with it. Yes, the government good idea to send positive people in to care homes. Should I go on?!

It’s not the “group of workers having a glass of wine together along with some sweaty cheese”, it’s the fact that they were laughing about the rules and the fact that they were flaunting them. If you can’t see a problem with that, well ………….

Immaculatemisconception · 10/12/2021 22:47

He won’t resign.

Timeisavirtue · 10/12/2021 23:16

I find it funny Matt Hancock ‘resigned’ for an affair which quite frankly didn’t affect anyone other than his family, yet boris has fucked up on more occasions than we can count and the fucker is still in office 🤦🏼‍♀️ And the worst bit is some people still hang on his every word! Like open your eyes, we’ve all been mugged off whilst this clown is running the country...

littledrummergirl · 11/12/2021 00:07

When he goes none of those in his cabinet should be anywhere near high office again. They are so interlinked that they are all as bad as each other. Sunak is very friendly with the woman who had crocodile tears, godparent to the children. She was laughing at us but where did her confidence to do that come from?

They should all be expelled from the party.

repottingthescabious · 11/12/2021 00:44

Boris won't be going anywhere until his seat in The Lords is secured.

My money's on 19th December - it's a full moon (a time of endings) in Gemini (his sign).

The rest of the Tories will throw a party anyway if he goes.

Frankly the whole Cabinet need hosing out and disenfecting. Utterly corrupt and a total disregard for anyone other than themselves.

repottingthescabious · 11/12/2021 00:44

*disinfecting

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Thedogscollar · 11/12/2021 01:09

[quote sopsmum]@Thedogscollar you don't speak for me and I was directly affected by the restrictions and was unable to see my father as he was dying in hospital. Please don't be so flippant with your words as it is hugely offensive. My family's tragedy is not your political ammunition.

The restrictions were right at the time. I cannot however get excited that people that were working together and in contact with each other for work reasons basically had a glass of wine after work. As did many medics that I know and I don't begrudge them either.

It is entirely different than general mixing and socialising. [/quote]
@sopsmum
I apologise if I have offended you with my post.

Yes the restrictions were right at the time and it seems they were adhered to by the majority but the information and video evidence that is now public show that the rule makers were infact the rule breakers.

I work in the NHS in maternity and I have the right to be offended for myself, my colleagues and every woman I have cared for that could not have their partner with them on the ward at such a huge life event. The restrictions were partners only 1 permitted in labour and no visitors at all on the wards.

I have seen woman having to undergo
early emergency caesarean sections to save their lives as the strain on their lungs was killing them.

This past 19 months has taken it's toll on all of us for many reasons.
You make think they did no wrong but they broke their own restrictions. Dress it up how you like. They are hypocrites.

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repottingthescabious · 11/12/2021 03:33

Munya Chawawa says it all - my favourite sum up so far