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Aibu to expect an announcement soon?

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Thedogscollar · 10/12/2021 19:00

Given the fiasco of the last few days how can he possibly stay in office?

How can the Tories possibly think he is useful to them anymore when his private and work life are intertwined in sleaze and lie upon lie?

They say you reap what you sow. If this is true how is BJ even employed or in a relationship?

Aibu to expect an announcement from him soon. I live in hope.

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SueSaid · 10/12/2021 20:39

@Mybalconyiscracking

As I have said elsewhere, I cannot get exercised over a few civil servants getting together for some warm wine and sweaty cheese, over a year ago. This is what is known as a slow news day at the BBC!
This.

If we see photos of dancing and pissed up people at 2am fine (and let's face it surely Cummings will share footage asap), he will have to fall on his sword but at the moment as evidence is lacking he won't be going anywhere.

LethargicActress · 10/12/2021 20:40

I find it ridiculous that politicians lose their jobs over stupid things like this, often when there are other valid reasons to want them out.

I doubt number 10 was the only workplace to have an unusually enjoyable staff meeting at some point before Christmas last year. Technically within the rules, but not really.

Lollyneenah · 10/12/2021 20:41

I can't get worked up about the party.
My own mum died from covid, all of the horror we went through as a family just runs so deeply that I feel if I allow myself to be bothered in the slightest then I would explode at.. Well every single thing .

I do believe he will leave by March, with sunak stepping in. My main reasoning for sunk as the increase to universal credit for people that work full time, and receive a UC top up. Quite a clever tactic to scoop up/retai more swing voters who may otherwise have voted labour.

Flowers to the others who have lost someone during all of this.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 10/12/2021 20:41

Time we had a coalition, bit like a wartime parliament just to undo the absolute mess this government has made over the last decade+

Just take a break from this oppositional bullshit and actually work fucking hard to make life better for everyone

Lollyneenah · 10/12/2021 20:42

For sunak is the*

RonaLisa · 10/12/2021 20:43

@Mybalconyiscracking

As I have said elsewhere, I cannot get exercised over a few civil servants getting together for some warm wine and sweaty cheese, over a year ago. This is what is known as a slow news day at the BBC!
I kind of agree with this.

I agree with it because I'm still baffled, almost two years on, as to why so many people went along with what were evidently stupid rules (not being allowed to see relatives, not being allowed to meet indoors, not being allowed to see a non-resident partner, not being allowed to collect student children from university, and so on). I ignored every single one of these rules. The government took away my only means to earn a living by deciding that lockdown was a good idea; no fucking way was I going to stop seeing my nearest and dearest on top of that.

Why the fuck did people actually comply? Fair enough to suggest that a massive party for Granny's 90th birthday was probably inadvisable - but why did so many people go along with the draconian austerity of it all? Presumably partly because they were either furloughed so had a nice holiday sorting out their attics on 80% salaries, or could WFH and avoid having to (shock, horror) talk to anyone. The others were either genuinely thinking they were "doing their bit" (how? For whom? Not for all the people who went bankrupt during the lockdowns, or their families), or are just generally inclined to do as they're told.

So, no, I don't care that they had a party - because it was obvious to pretty much anyone who thought about it that it would have been no more risky to anyone's life than crossing a road. I had similar "gatherings" during lockdown. However, I do care that they threw a hand grenade into my life by scaremongering to such a degree that enough people fell for it.

sopsmum · 10/12/2021 20:43

@Thedogscollar you don't speak for me and I was directly affected by the restrictions and was unable to see my father as he was dying in hospital. Please don't be so flippant with your words as it is hugely offensive. My family's tragedy is not your political ammunition.

The restrictions were right at the time. I cannot however get excited that people that were working together and in contact with each other for work reasons basically had a glass of wine after work. As did many medics that I know and I don't begrudge them either.

It is entirely different than general mixing and socialising.

FutureHope · 10/12/2021 20:44

They have no integrity left.

I just want basic decency. And respect for the public they elected.

Storminamu · 10/12/2021 20:46

@Mybalconyiscracking

As I have said elsewhere, I cannot get exercised over a few civil servants getting together for some warm wine and sweaty cheese, over a year ago. This is what is known as a slow news day at the BBC!
Yes, because committing a crime is totally fine if you've got away with it for a year. It happened last year, so it's obviously not serious and doesn't deserve a punishment.
Echobelly · 10/12/2021 20:48

It's just occurred to me that of course now Boris does have an awfully convenient excuse of 'spending time with his young family' Hmm

whoopsnomore · 10/12/2021 20:51

@JaniieJones unlikely Cummings was there as he had been asked to move on before Dec 18th last year

YetAnotherManicMonday1234 · 10/12/2021 20:54

He should but he won’t.

Who would want the job right now anyway? You’d be instantly hated the second you said anything about COVID or Brexit.

SpaceshiptoMars · 10/12/2021 20:54

All it needs now is for Keir Starmer to have an operation on his vocal cords, and drop about an octave. That should do it.

PraiseTheSunshine · 10/12/2021 20:54

@Itloggedmeoutagain I'm so sorry for your loss Flowers I agree with everything you said.

VladmirsPoutine · 10/12/2021 20:55

Why the fuck did people actually comply?

And with this, dear children, is why we will never get out of the pandemic.

lightisnotwhite · 10/12/2021 20:56

It’s a thankless job. We have Brexit and a pandemic. Moan, moan, moan from the country despite half the country wanting to stay and the other half leave, half wanting more restrictions against Covid, the other half wanting less.

I’d be telling you all to fuck off and sort it yourselves then if you know so much.

Supersimkin2 · 10/12/2021 20:57

We were warned not to vote for Boris by several objective, clever people who'd worked in the same room as him for years: Max Hastings, various newspaper editors, etc.

Big front pages said BORIS IS OUT FOR HIMSELF. NOT YOU.

And every single hint about lying and cheating they could get past the lawyers.

He won't go till the successor has been trained up.

RonaLisa · 10/12/2021 21:00

@VladmirsPoutine

Why the fuck did people actually comply?

And with this, dear children, is why we will never get out of the pandemic.

No, it's not. This virus will not go away, because it's doing what viruses do.

If, however, you think it is all worth people being cowed into not seeing their loved ones (there are some appalling stories on this thread alone), then we will have to agree to disagree.

Hearwego · 10/12/2021 21:01

I’m amazed too ,that the majority of the country complied, by and large for so long.
Millions of people furloughed, some of them for almost 18 moths. Millions of these people are fit and healthy people, yet were paid out of tax payers money to stay home. I was one of them for 6 months.
People couldn’t see dying relatives, but could wander around Tesco’s with hundreds of other random people.
Children’s educations massively disrupted, some of these kids will be disadvantaged for the rest of their lives( in the worst cases ) as a result of the school closures.
Getting told after 6 months that we needed to wear a face covering- yet most people I saw had their noses sticking out of it or had the same mask for months, obviously just taken out of their pocket when they needed it. Or other people who never wore one anyway.
We had a health secretary who not only cheated on his wife but took the kids out of all of us. Boris didn’t even want to sack him even then.
I dont believe a word Boris or anyone in his cabinet says , because I wouldn’t trust any of them as far as I could throw them.
The Tories will keep Boris in charge - who would want his job anyway?
Plus he’s so bulletproof, that he can get away with anything, whilst his Tory chums can keep their jobs and govern everyone else.

Hearwego · 10/12/2021 21:03

Is sad to think that whilst this virus mutates, we may have to have this shit every Xmas. Children’s nativity plays cancelled,Xmas parties cancelled. Permanently.
It’s awful beyond words to think that this could happen every December.

HestersSamplerofCarrots · 10/12/2021 21:08

There is no way that man will voluntarily give up office. He’s too pigheaded and too wrongheaded.

BHX3000 · 10/12/2021 21:10

@Mybalconyiscracking drops that comment on every thread there is on this topic, and then disappears. I wonder which one of them s/he is Grin

Potnoodleforbrains · 10/12/2021 21:13

Why does everyone feel they need somebody to blame for all this. Boris did not make covid happen ffs. Who could have done better in this situation, you?

CaMePlaitPas · 10/12/2021 21:14

I am not sure how the man sleeps at night. I would love to see the back of him, but the truth is that until we get the nasty party out of power nothing will change. Socially speaking I mean, I know covid won't just disappear with a new government.

I'm sick to death of all of them. It is an abomination that in 2021 we have people working two jobs who can't afford to heat their homes and shocking that in the world's 5th largest economy we have people eating out of food banks. The government have made it clear that we live in a two tier society, it's completely appalling.

Portillista · 10/12/2021 21:15

@Potnoodleforbrains

Why does everyone feel they need somebody to blame for all this. Boris did not make covid happen ffs. Who could have done better in this situation, you?
A goat standing on its head could have done.

I was a Conservative voter until Boris the Dictator came along and let's not forget Brexit either

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