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Do you believe Boris Johnson when he says there was no Christmas party?

280 replies

Kendodd · 07/12/2021 22:10

YABU There was no party
YANBU He's lying, there was a party.

OP posts:
headinthecloudsnow · 08/12/2021 12:49

No way I dont believe him.

Im so enraged by this. We need to do more! I would attend a protest if there was one.

Clavinova · 08/12/2021 12:58

He was unarguably a useless mayor

YouGov 2016

His approval rating has been remarkably consistent during his second term as Mayor, since 2012, and has been drastically higher than most national politicians' throughout. In hindsight, the majority of Londoners (52%) say he has done a good job, while 29% say he hasn't performed well.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/05/05/mayor-boris-public-verdict

Clavinova · 08/12/2021 13:01

Do you believe Boris Johnson when he says there was no Christmas party?

I believe him when he said he was assured by his staff that there was no Christmas party as he wasn't there himself.

luckylavender · 08/12/2021 13:03

No. And it wasn't just one party.

thecatfromjapan · 08/12/2021 13:04

Ha! And now there's another party - November 13th.

Was he 'not present' and 'not informed' for that one as well?

AIBU : People keep holding parties in my home - breaking the legislation I put in place - without telling me. AIBU to think it's really unfair people don't believe it has nothing to do with me?

Saucery · 08/12/2021 13:06

Does he not ever wonder what all the noise is downstairs? Ask a member of housekeeping staff why he can hear clinking glasses and laughter?
Does he think No.10 is haunted or something?

OurChristmasMiracle · 08/12/2021 13:08

Nope don’t believe it for a second! Look at how much about MPs conduct during the pandemic has come out already and that’s just things we’ve found out- and is likely the til of the iceberg!

Strangely enough the party happened a few days before Boris locked London down (sorry I meant tier 4) and funny how most of those MPs had left for Xmas already outside of London. 🤔

Tessellation · 08/12/2021 13:09

Aren't Carrie and Allegra, like besties...?

MorningStarling · 08/12/2021 13:10

There is a difference between believing whether their was a party, and caring about it. There is an even bigger difference between caring about the lies and it making you think there are better options available.

That's the key issue Labour and the other parties face. We know politicians lie. They've always lied and always will. Maybe they don't start out intending to lie, but in the end they will realise they need to say what they think their audience wants to here. You don't have to like a Prime Minister or even trust them to think that they are the best of a bad bunch.

To me, all the things Tory MPs are accused of doing - lying, breaking lockdown, having second jobs - don't really make any difference to the fact that however badly they run the country, they're more clued up than Starmer and his crew.

Labour don't exactly have a glittering record when it comes to MPs behaving themselves. Whether they're MPs are convicted of harassment, repeatedly been in trouble for assault or just a good ol' fashioned anti-semite, they don't suggest that the calibre of Labour MP is any better than Conservative.

The lockdown party is a distraction and irrelevance. It doesn't determine how well the government manages the Covid crisis.

KaptainKaveman · 08/12/2021 13:12

Yeah they are.

The story about BJ remarking to journalists that his marriage to Carrie was 'buyer's regret' never quite made it big here did it? that was about 3 weeks ago. The lawyers were all over it. You'd have to dig around a bit to find it. He said it though.

generalh · 08/12/2021 13:12

I would check the sky if he said it was blue. Revolting man!

KaptainKaveman · 08/12/2021 13:15

Still, once he starts having sex with other women she can console herself with the multi thousand pound wallpaper. I'm sure that'll take the edge off.

LetHimHaveIt · 08/12/2021 13:17

[quote Clavinova]He was unarguably a useless mayor

YouGov 2016

His approval rating has been remarkably consistent during his second term as Mayor, since 2012, and has been drastically higher than most national politicians' throughout. In hindsight, the majority of Londoners (52%) say he has done a good job, while 29% say he hasn't performed well.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/05/05/mayor-boris-public-verdict[/quote]
Ha! A high-ish approval rating (52% isn't particularly, btw) isn't the same thing as being good at the job, ffs. Bush's approval rating was something like 90%, by far the highest in US history, absolutely outstripping Reagan - less than a year before losing to Clinton. His son managed even higher approval ratings (for about 5 minutes after 9/11) - and is now widely recognised as one of the poorest post-war Presidents.

Jesus. Approval ratings, indeed.

Offmyfence · 08/12/2021 13:18

@Romeiswheretheheartis

2% of 199 have voted YABU. Is that you Boris and Carrie?
Grin

You beat me to it!

KrispyKale · 08/12/2021 13:19

Apart from funding Oxford Astrazeneca this government have been poor. It's been the one bright spot in a farrago of blundering about.

Clavinova · 08/12/2021 13:23

Does he not ever wonder what all the noise is downstairs? Ask a member of housekeeping staff why he can hear clinking glasses and laughter?
Does he think No.10 is haunted or something?

He lives in the flat above Number 11 -

www.standard.co.uk/insider/inside-story-number-11-downing-street-carrie-symonds-boris-johnson-flat-b931925.html

slobberydog · 08/12/2021 13:26

Of course he's lying. Question is, does it make any difference to the vast majority of voters?

Clavinova · 08/12/2021 13:29

LetHimHaveIt
Ha! A high-ish approval rating (52% isn't particularly, btw) isn't the same thing as being good at the job, ffs.

I was replying to; He was unarguably a useless mayor.
Only 29% of Londoners said he hadn't performed well - that's far removed from unarguably being a useless mayor.

baroqueandblue · 08/12/2021 13:36

The lockdown party is a distraction and irrelevance. It doesn't determine how well the government manages the Covid crisis.

Are you being deliberately thick?! Of course it matters - we're heading for some Christmas restrictions again, to be announced today, and Johnson's conduct over this weakens further many people's sense of moral leadership. More people will die unnecessarily as a result, in a pandemic that's far from over Hmm

Saucery · 08/12/2021 13:40

Does he not ever wonder what all the noise is next door? Ask a member of housekeeping staff why he can hear clinking glasses and laughter?
Does he think No.10 is haunted or something?

There you go, Clav, you little stickler for accuracy, you Grin

Clavinova · 08/12/2021 13:49

Saucery
Does he not ever wonder what all the noise is next door? Ask a member of housekeeping staff why he can hear clinking glasses and laughter?

10 Surprising facts about Number 10 Downing Street

Like Doctor Who's Tardis, the property is deceptively large, despite its modest townhouse appearance. Behind the Georgian entrance lie approximately 100 rooms, connected by a labyrinth of halls and corridors... Grin

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3LrMh99XJ1Xsh7GtrvH1s8H/10-surprising-facts-about-number-10-downing-street

LookItsMeAgain · 08/12/2021 13:53

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

If his lips are moving, he's lying. So no, I don't believe him.
This! 1000000% this.
Clavinova · 08/12/2021 13:53

Saucery

In fact I had no idea that Number 10 was so big - thanks for prompting me to look that up.

Saucery · 08/12/2021 13:54

@Clavinova

Saucery

In fact I had no idea that Number 10 was so big - thanks for prompting me to look that up.

It’s probably not haunted either. Except by wilful and/or malicious incompetence.
LookItsMeAgain · 08/12/2021 13:56

I was watching a bit of Politics Live on BBC2 at lunchtime earlier and whoever the British Government sent to be on that show (as elected representatives were very short on supply all of a sudden this morning) mentioned more than once that Boris Johnson wasn't even in #10 Downing Street at the time this 'party' was supposed to happen. That's the London residence of the PM so if he wasn't there, when London was in Tier 3 (i.e. lockdown) where the hell was he??

I hope the Speaker of the House gets involved and the Met Police are also involved. He shouldn't be allowed to wangle his way out of this. This was a LAW at the time that his party brought in and people up and down the country were going through untold amounts of pain burying their loved ones with no support at funerals and loved ones in care homes for months on end without being allowed to visit.