No Religious Christmas cards

[mumofEandE]

I was in one of those 'cheap card shops' and a customer asked if there were any Religious Christmas cards.
There weren't.
I am not a practising Christian/ or practising anything (!) but this really made me feel that this is wrong!

@mustlovegin

I don't understand how a Christmas card can be non-religious

Yet almost all of them are …

"Are they wise because their lateness meant they could pick up bargain gifts in the January sales?(not wise though because they appear to have gone to lush and h Samuels for a newborn)"

I never buy religious Christmas cards. The nativity is a nice story, but I don’t believe a word of it.

I've just looked on the Tesco website. 41 different and none of them have a religious theme. Even the ones that show a snowy village scene don't have a church on them anywhere. In fact, the church is almost conspicuous by its absence.

@BeaMends

I've just looked on the Tesco website. 41 different and none of them have a religious theme. Even the ones that show a snowy village scene don't have a church on them anywhere. In fact, the church is almost conspicuous by its absence.

There is one religious pack, angels and doves. (Presumably you know the symbolism of the dove?)

www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/309141417

DH has taken over card-buying in our house - he makes sure they're totally non-religious, 'Seasons Greetings' rather than 'Happy Christmas' etc, so a lot of the tescos ones wouldn't pass muster with him.

@BeaMends

I've just looked on the Tesco website. 41 different and none of them have a religious theme. Even the ones that show a snowy village scene don't have a church on them anywhere. In fact, the church is almost conspicuous by its absence.

Oh the horror!

@beautifullymad

This year there are hardly any proper packs of Christian Christmas cards. I looked with my mum who always sends nativity cards. We looked hard. The only place we could find doing them and we got the last pack on the shelf was WHSmiths.

try asda. plenty in there!

Seriously, I alwyas buy ones with a link to nativity/3 kings/star of bethlehem etc rather than a robin and there are loads around.

@BeaMends

I've just looked on the Tesco website. 41 different and none of them have a religious theme. Even the ones that show a snowy village scene don't have a church on them anywhere. In fact, the church is almost conspicuous by its absence.

I’ve also looked. The 11th result has a star, the 14th has a dove and angels, and the 24th is specifically called ‘Tesco Traditional Religious Cards 10 Pack’ and features the nativity scene.

So I call bollocks.

@DismantledKing

I never buy religious Christmas cards. The nativity is a nice story, but I don’t believe a word of it.

This

@BeaMends

I've just looked on the Tesco website. 41 different and none of them have a religious theme. Even the ones that show a snowy village scene don't have a church on them anywhere. In fact, the church is almost conspicuous by its absence.

Did you look though or are you fibbing?

www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/309141400

It’s just a shop, not the world authority on Christmas cards.

They can do what is commercially right for them

I am curious what the Christians would like the atheists to do. I don't mean the lovely Christians I know who couldn't give a crap. I mean the ones who go on about atheists and Christmas.

1. Stop celebrating altogether. Ignore Christmas, not buy anything, not have people over. OK so wouldn't that be quite miserable and 'erasing' Christmas?

1. Celebrate Yule. Say Happy Yule or Seasons Greetings, buy trees, lights, holly, mistletoe, food, but not join in the religious stuff. See above with added 'Seasons Greeting those bastards, it's Christmas'. And wouldn't we have the same issue but now we'd be annoying the pagans?

1. Convert for Christmas. Hypocritical and offensive.

1. Celebrate but acknowledge it's not really for us and we're here under sufferance.

1. Pretend. Go to Mass, have nativities everywhere, sing carols. See 3.

Because it might be Christian but it's also pagan and other traditions. There aren't many seasonal places which don't have some kind of midwinter festival. And harvest, and Spring. They're just built in.

I would like to point out that atheists have Christianity imposed (the Lords, schools etc.) and if we put up with 'cultural Christianity' when it suits Christians, shouldn't we get the good stuff too?

MrsTerry Probably Option 4, as that appears to be how you feel anyway

I wonder if people are so disrespectful toward other religions as well (Jews, Muslims, etc)

No, I feel that about you @mustlovegin because of the churlish stuff which I don't recognise in any of my Christian friends.

Do you really think 4? Genuine question.

And I also don't see how it's offensive. Christianity is imposed in a way the others aren't because of having a state religion. I treat Eid and Hanukkah and the same. Celebrate with my friends and eat the food but clearly don't believe the religious aspects. I say Mubarak Eid but I also say Happy Christmas.

I don't mean the lovely Christians I know who couldn't give a crap

So...your friends are lovely because they 'don't give a crap' and put up with being made fun of? Right....

I wish it was illegal for people to be mind numbingly moronic.

@mustlovegin

I don't mean the lovely Christians I know who couldn't give a crap

So...your friends are lovely because they 'don't give a crap' and put up with being made fun of? Right....

How is it making fun? And BTW one of my friends has a laugh sending me the lost religious card he can. Is he a bastard, albeit a Christian one? No, it's funny!

I was just in the Brotish Heart Foundation charity shop- absolutely gorgeous array of gilded cards, many religious, including a nativity arched window card, Madonna and child, and gorgeous praying angels. But the less religious 12 Days of Christmas ones (shaped like trees) were probably my favourites.

Found a link: giftshop.bhf.org.uk/12-days-of-cut-out-tree-christmas-cards-10pk

I'm a complete whore for Christmas traditions. I actively collect them from the countries I visit. Even the ones that wildly contradict each other.

Christianity can get back in its box. I'm all about the Icelandic black cat that eats children at Christmas.

Christianity can get back in its box. I'm all about the Icelandic black cat that eats children at Christmas

Unless they get new clothes? Is that right?

I never understand why Christians get so arsey about other people not sharing their beliefs.
You get a personal relationship with the Big Man, and then after you die you live forever in paradise. Why do you get so snipey then?
Unless (of course), you don’t really believe a word of it.

*NACALT

@DismantledKing

*NACALT

So much this.

The ones I hang out with manage to be nice and have a sense of humour. I mean I reckon Jesus would have been a laugh and an old round good bloke. He sounds like my type of person. WWJD? Probably not whine about people 'invading' unless they were Roman and turn my water into wine.

Yabvvu

I'm with a pp partner above, and have only sent non-named-religion type cards with messages like "seasons greetings" since I've been old enough to buy/make my own.
It's getting more difficult to find ones without Christian messaging/or obvious imagery.

And that's ignoring the issues regarding eavesdropping, judgemental word choice regarding the shop, the religious debate (and "The Church" co-opting "heathen" festivals to make it easier to persecute non-believers) and that the designs on cards are down to consumer demand - if you're that bothered: go to church, pay your 10% tithe, and only buy/send cards with designs you find sufficiently religious