No Religious Christmas cards

[mumofEandE]

I was in one of those 'cheap card shops' and a customer asked if there were any Religious Christmas cards.
There weren't.
I am not a practising Christian/ or practising anything (!) but this really made me feel that this is wrong!

I'm not religious and I celebrate Christmas. It's not about Christ. It's about lights and food and family and friends and giving and evergreens and singing and all the things that are part of midwinter long before Christianity.

Don't people find it a tiny bit suspicious that Jesus was 'born' so close to the solstice...

I can guarantee that there would have been cards in that shop with pictures of the three wise men, or a crib, or angels, or any of the Christmas story themes.

The assistant probably thought that the person asking was looking for a card with a specifically religious message on the front or wording inside.

I suspect this was just a misunderstanding or mis-communication.

As for the lovely pp up thread, such bigotry and ridiculousness. The religious side of Christmas is available to everyone who wants to enjoy it. No-one of any culture or religion is preventing the Christian Christmas message being out there. No-one is standing at the church gate saying that you can't go into the carol service, no-one is preventing our local knitting group from making knitted nativity characters. The Christmas story is taught in our schools. No-one is cancelling Christmas.

I taught in a predominantly Muslim area, and the Muslim families came along to our nativity play and watched their children in it. They sent me Christmas cards and presents. They have no problem with Christmas @rjane.

Charity shops have plenty of religious Christmas cards.

It’s not a religious holiday for me personally, or the majority of my friends and family. I do enjoy the trappings that come from faith, carols, nativities, advent etc but don’t believe.

I went charity shop trawling at the weekend, they all stocked cards with a religious theme to them, normally 50/50 with secular (except the animal charities for whatever reason). I think Christians are more likely to buy charity cards over ones from the card factory hence them not stocking any.

@Cryalot2

Surely Christmas is about the birth of Christ. I don't know of any church that sells anything . Most are places of worship. Online is a good place . The faith mission tends to sell such .

Meh, Christmas was plastered over existing midwinter festival traditions that had existed long before Christ was even born, let alone become the root of a religion or that religion made it to Northern Europe.

I don't understand how a Christmas card can be non-religious

I got a cheap pack of religious cards from the card factory..... They arent exactly hard to find.

Unlike and advent calendar with Christmas shaped chocolate AND a picture behind each door 😶😑

@mustlovegin

I don't understand how a Christmas card can be non-religious

It could have a picture of a robin perched on a frosty fir tree. Or some elves making some toys. Or about a thousand other things, what are you talking about?

@MrsTerryPratchett

I'm not religious and I celebrate Christmas. It's not about Christ. It's about lights and food and family and friends and giving and evergreens and singing and all the things that are part of midwinter long before Christianity.

Don't people find it a tiny bit suspicious that Jesus was 'born' so close to the solstice...

And something else before that, ie, it's turtles all the way down.

Christmas without Jesus Christ is pretty drab IMO.

Christmas without Jesus Christ is pretty drab IMO.

And it isn't IMO. Funny old world.

Christmas without Jesus Christ is pretty drab IMO

I find Santa a good substitute

@nancy75

Christmas without Jesus Christ is pretty drab IMO

I find Santa a good substitute

I find Baileys a good substitute

People who don't understand can listen to White Wine in The Sun which explains. And makes me cry.

[quote MrsTerryPratchett][/quote]
This song always makes me blub. Wah.

@MrsTerryPratchett - Baileys, porn star martini, gin, can of Stella - I’m not fussy

Much of the symbolism of Christmas (and other Christian celebrations) has been taken from the festivals that preceded Christianity.

The whole 'you should be a Christian to celebrate Christmas' thing is nonsense. Midwinter celebrations long predate the alleged day of the birth of Jesus. It's a celebration of changing seasons, of the shortest days of the year and a look forward to the longer days to come.

I'm wondering though, as a non-christian, if I am guilty of invading the UK too, by being born here - given that the majority of people in the UK class themselves as Christian (over 50%), and the next biggest percentage (40%) are people that don't consider themselves religious at all. Islam, which less face it, is the religion some people think is an issue (despite the fact that it, Judaism and Christianity all have the same root) is only about 4% of the population.

Us atheists and agnostics clearly have a lot to answer for 😁

Can we ship you out of the UK? Might be best for all concerned.

Not for the poor people in the country they're shipped to

MrsTerryPratchett

"I'm not religious and I celebrate Christmas. It's not about Christ. It's about lights and food and family and friends and giving and evergreens and singing and all the things that are part of midwinter long before Christianity.

Don't people find it a tiny bit suspicious that Jesus was 'born' so close to the solstice..."

I find it suspicious that the 8 Pagan festivals all have a similar Christian festival so close to them.

As for religious Christmas cards. Shops will stock what sells.

Card factory has a whole section on their website www.cardfactory.co.uk/christmas/card-ideas/religious-christmas-cards/

www.clintonsretail.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=religious%20christmas And Clinton’s

I'm pretty sure i saw some when i was last in Card Factory a few weeks ago.

I can only assume the sale assistant either couldn't be bothered to help or isn't aware of the many cards sold in the shop.

Religious cards are not that hard to find, i usually receive a couple each year.

This has a "we are not allowed to celebrate Christmas anymore in case it offends anyone" theme
And the poster who mentions being invaded, Dail Mail reader are we?
I see religious and non religious cards everywhere, you can't move for them actually. You do realise people of other faiths enjoy Christmas too?

If you go by all the hype every year, no one is stopping the UK celebrating Christmas!