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to be alarmed by vaccine passports

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Loustew12 · 17/11/2021 07:14

Am I the only person who find the proposed extension of this alarming, given what's happening in Austria, where police are out checking the unvaccinated are hiding among the vaccinated? Gibraltar has 100% vaccination rate and cases are through the roof. So clearly being vaccinated doesn't 'stop the spread'. Therefore, there is no logical or justification for segregating society. It's surely a slippery slope to go down?

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JassyRadlett · 18/11/2021 21:23

That Guardian article will be linked by many now.

Yes, I did apologise for posting it, so not sure your point. No more pounds of flesh on offer from me today.

MarshaBradyo · 18/11/2021 21:26

@JassyRadlett

That Guardian article will be linked by many now.

Yes, I did apologise for posting it, so not sure your point. No more pounds of flesh on offer from me today.

I wasn’t having a go at you specifically just musing on posters who will love it.
Twillow · 18/11/2021 21:31

What is wrong with a vaccine passport? I don't get the fuss. As a PP has said, tons of your data is already out there. You don't have to have one, presumably, unless you want to travel abroad or go clubbing. It's not like you need to flash it at Sainsbury's.
To me, it's like identity cards which are routinely used in Europe already and hasn't turned those countries into police states. As the old saying goes if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to be worried about.

MarshaBradyo · 18/11/2021 21:33

It was probably fast wording and hard to get tone but honestly I wasn’t telling you off for linking..

I did see you said you shouldn’t have

CatsArePeople · 18/11/2021 21:51

It's not like you need to flash it at Sainsbury's.

Hello France and some other countries? They exactly require vaxpass for supermarkets. So yes, it will be coming for your sainsburys eventually.

ddl1 · 18/11/2021 21:52

But when it was required to wear them when walking alone in fresh air...

When were we ever required to wear masks when walking alone in fresh air? I don't remember that, even during lockdown.

JassyRadlett · 18/11/2021 23:49

@MarshaBradyo

It was probably fast wording and hard to get tone but honestly I wasn’t telling you off for linking..

I did see you said you shouldn’t have

Fair enough.
ILoveHuskies · 19/11/2021 07:09

@ddl1

But when it was required to wear them when walking alone in fresh air...

When were we ever required to wear masks when walking alone in fresh air? I don't remember that, even during lockdown.

Most schools required them to be worn by parents / carers in the playground at drop off
JassyRadlett · 19/11/2021 07:48

Most schools required them to be worn by parents / carers in the playground at drop off

I’m not sure that quite meets the ‘alone’ part of ‘walking alone in the fresh air’. My school drop off certainly didn’t and it was explained to us that the staff had requested it as part of ensuring they felt safer at work.

CatsArePeople · 19/11/2021 08:51

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Dutch1e · 19/11/2021 09:25

I'm unvaccinated. To meet friends for lunch I need a QR code and to get that code I have to be Covid negative. So I go to the test centre at 10am, have my results by 11 and sit down at the restaurant at noon. This is a pretty typical timeline for all of us in this country who want to have social contact.

Of all the people in that restaurant I feel pretty confident that it's the unvaccinated who are most reliably Covid-negative.

So I can't help being annoyed at being some kind of Schrodinger's Vector: simultaneously Covid-free while somehow also being a walking reservoir of infectious disease. Which is it?

I'm very pro-vaccine for those who choose it, and also deeply concerned by the construction of Us vs Them, which conveniently distracts from the conversations about how many hospitals and ICU beds have been defunded or closed altogether over the last 10 years despite the rising population.

If ICU beds are in short supply I don't care if you are fat, a smoker, a car owner, or vaccinated against Covid.... the health system has failed us.

CatsArePeople · 19/11/2021 14:17

nice. my post deleted again

ILoveHuskies · 19/11/2021 15:23

@JassyRadlett

Most schools required them to be worn by parents / carers in the playground at drop off

I’m not sure that quite meets the ‘alone’ part of ‘walking alone in the fresh air’. My school drop off certainly didn’t and it was explained to us that the staff had requested it as part of ensuring they felt safer at work.

Oh yeah my bad I wasn't alone I walked with my kids 🤦‍♀️

And never wore a mask IN THE FRESH AIR

I did wear them in shops at the height of it and if I had to go Drs, chemist etc.
But never outside - that was nothing but completely ridiculous performance safety

ILoveHuskies · 19/11/2021 15:24

@CatsArePeople

nice. my post deleted again
Well Make sure you tow the mn party line next time Wink
thenightsky · 19/11/2021 22:09

I can't help being annoyed at being some kind of Schrodinger's Vector: simultaneously Covid-free while somehow also being a walking reservoir of infectious disease. Which is it?

I'm going to try to remember this for when I'm struggling to format my words. Its perfect.

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