To wonder if the majority of women might be happier without men

[Mummylookatmex1000]

I like men and always have, however, ever since I became a mum I’ve noticed the complete unfairness in life for females.
I think back to my mum and although my father’s a good man and was a good dad in his own way, it was my mum who was often in the background and busted her ass more.
In my group of friends, even the ones in happy relationships, they seem happier in the home or things run more smoothly when their dh’s/dp’s aren’t around.
In the less happy relationships, the women prefer when their partners aren’t around or weekends are filled with moodiness/stresses etc.
I remember in my own childhood, having to work around my dads moods or it affecting the family if he was stressed etc

Would we be happier if we were just a large community of women, with our friends and family?

A world without men would be very sad.

I totally agree with you op. We don't need men..only for the sperm...

I wouldn’t be, I miss my DP even just when he’s at work during the day
And my dad is lovely too, we are very close.

A world without men would be very sad.

Not when you remove the thousands upon thousands of acts of violence and rape perpetrated by men against women every single day around the world - not THAT is sad.

I think that the meh-ness of all-female environments is directly related to the degree they centre men.

Girly women would become a lot less so if they were in an environment where 'femininity' wasn't necessary to survive.

Being stuck living with only community's of woman would be my worst nightmare! We need men to dilute us a bit.

How does it work if you give birth to a DS? Find out at 20 week scan and abort it? Hand them over to be put in a cage and used to donate sperm when they hit puberty?
Bring them up yourself but then give them away at 18 and never see them again?

Where do we get the sperm from? Farms of men, locked up and milked like cows?
Borrow a man to fuck for 5 days around ovulation? Can we go to the man pound and choose which one we like the look of?

My rule of thumb is men for romance and women for sex (multiple orgasms!!).

I've found over the years that men need a lot more love and reassurance than they let on, but our society does not offer positive, masculine ways for them to express it.

Misogyny and patriarchal bullshit are responsible for a lot of misery in our society. If you want to see just how bad it can get, take a look at South Korea where it's even worse and some radical feminists are opting out of sex, marriage and babies altogether.

www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-women-rights-idUSKBN1ZJ02Z

No way, I love DH, I'd hate to live without him. I love my Dad, brother and uncles too!

I agree OP, I've always thought this, ever since I was a child. I'm happily married now, which I never thought I would be, so I'm lucky in that respect. But other than my husband I can't think of many men that I actually like or that have contributed anything positive to my life. Even the supposedly "decent, "nice" men, I still find that they have ingrained misogyny and are quite arrogant.
All of the women I know have either experienced outright abuse or low level unpleasantness from men. I know women can be unpleasant too but...the dynamics are somehow different with men.

@notanothertakeaway

I think you'll get hundreds on NAMALT posts, but judging by the number of posters who seem to be in shit relationships, I'd say you're probably right

^^ this.

@Ifyoudontlikeitdosomethingelse

Being stuck living with only community's of woman would be my worst nightmare! We need men to dilute us a bit.

What is it about women that needs "diluting"?

Your internalised misogyny is showing.

When you look for a life partner would you not look for one that is domesticated and house trained, i.e one who can do laundry, iron, cook and clean. These are basic adult functions.
If you pick a partner who can't look after themselves then why be dismayed when they can't assist when you have a family?
If this is the root of unhappiness for females then perhaps you should have set you sights higher at the selection process.

Although many men are 'domesticated and house trained', the number who really understand what the domestic load (including the mental load) entails and who are willing to share it 50/50 is a lot less.

Also, an alarmingly large number of men seem to be able to fend for themselves when living alone, but see moving in with a woman as akin to aquiring a household appliance. And often the full extent of this attitude doesn't become apparent until a baby arrives and the woman is on maternity leave. Which is often a 'wtf' moment for many women as they finally twig that they've been sold a dud at the point when it's most difficult to leave.

These men don't come labelled, unfortunately. Sometimes the signs are there, sometimes the entitlement develops over time.

Gliderx.
If no dinner is put in front of them and non of their clothes washed then hopefully they can rebooted into fend for yourself mode and reprogrammed into family mode.....

Would we be happier if we were just a large community of women

I can honestly think of nothing worse than a large community of women.

Pretty sure some women would be. This is not my case. I would be lost without my husband with all his flaws and moods.

You only have to read mumsnet to know there would still be fights and arguing! It wouldn't be blissful.

@Chikapu

Would we be happier if we were just a large community of women

I can honestly think of nothing worse than a large community of women.

Can you imagine what AIBU would be like as an IRL commune. I am partly horrified but also I would watch that TV show

I am divorced and would happily never live with another man.
GliderX is absolutely right, it was only after we had kids and I went back to work that it all really went downhill as xH refused to do his fair share. Took me another 15 years to get rid but hey ho.
I don't hate all men, I have 2 grown up sons who are great and do their bit around the house.
I am financially independent and don't need a man to do anything around the house, I'll do it myself or get a handyman. I get more love and affection from my female friends than I ever did from XH.

Although many men are 'domesticated and house trained'

Nice of you to notice.

I enjoy male company, have male friends and find men attractive but I do not want a serious relationship or to ever live with a man again.

I'm happier with DH around. I look forward to seeing him after work each day and miss him if he or I goes away for a few days.

I also have lots of male friends that enrich my life and that I'd be very sorry to lose.

I don't say I "like men", I like people that I get on with, and they can be of either gender.

Without men entirely? No
Without needing a man as a partner? Possibly. I think a lot of women (and men) are in relationships that they’d probably be happier out of. And I’m not often convinced that long term monogamy is actually a very realistic or healthy thing.

@Ifyoudontlikeitdosomethingelse

How does it work if you give birth to a DS? Find out at 20 week scan and abort it? Hand them over to be put in a cage and used to donate sperm when they hit puberty? Bring them up yourself but then give them away at 18 and never see them again?

Where do we get the sperm from? Farms of men, locked up and milked like cows?
Borrow a man to fuck for 5 days around ovulation? Can we go to the man pound and choose which one we like the look of?

That’s what I find really hilarious about this thread! Fine, all men are bad, world would be better without them. Abort sons then , you must be perfectly comfortable with it 😎