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I hate my husband and am angry all the time around my kids

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Cotscats · 14/11/2021 21:44

Looking for some help unravelling my feelings. There is no one in real life I would want to admit this to. Family and friends think we're happily married and my husband is great.

Our marriage is in a bad state. We haven't had sex since conceiving our youngest (now 7 years old). Sex life was ok when dating. After our first child arrived (now 12) things went downhill. He's not very interested - used to watch a lot of porn and I clearly don't really turn him on.

That's one issue. The other is he does not/will not talk to me. If I start a conversation it's like a chore for him to join in. It's an open joke - he'll tolerate me and listen to me ramble on but it's like he's doing me a favour. He's not interested in talking about anything with me really - not the kids, not our future plans ... he prefers me to sort it all out then inform him. An example is choosing schools for the children; he will leave it to me to book open days, visit, look around, make the applications. It's like this with most things in our life - booking a holiday, buying a garden shed or a car - all research and arrangements down to me.

Lastly I recently went from part time to full time work and he will not do anything additional to share the load now I have less hours in the day. We talked about this before I accepted the full time job and he assured me he would share the load. Do Friday school run for example. He doesn't. I am so frustrated and angry that I blew up a couple of weeks ago and he refuses to talk to me about it because I'm so angry.

This is what happens every time I try to talk to him about an issue in our relationship. I go to him, talk calmly and reasonably about the issue. He immediately goes on the defensive and starts talking in a booming voice that drowns me out. I ask him to quieten down so the children don't hear. He doesn't. Then I start to feel angry and frustrated. I'll either shout or cry - and that's his cue. He storms off. Sometimes leaves the house. More often goes to another room and sulks. If I follow him he gets angrier and shouts. Says he can't talk to me because all I do is shout and put him down. But I don't - I start off trying to talk but then he refuses to talk and booms over me to shut me up then I feel frustrated. It's as though he has this perfect formula to stop us ever communicating. I hate it. I can't stand being around him any longer. Today I just wanted to give up. I can't live like this anymore. I want to feel happy.

I take it out on the children. I'm short with them, impatient, unsmiling. The opposite of who I am and the parent I want to be. Why am I taking it out on them and not him? I can't think straight anymore and feel so hopeless about the future.

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Cotscats · 14/11/2021 22:53

I need to expand that things are not always like this. They are like this maybe 50% of the time. A lot of the time lately. It's been difficult with me takin on a full time job because that has magnified our problems (him not sharing the load, me having less time to emotionally reset to cope with this relationship). Home should be a sanctuary - I always wanted this for myself and for the kids.

If we separated what do I think I would miss? Our home I suppose (we couldn't afford two homes). And feeling like a conventional family.

Our financial situation is that he earns many times over what I earn. I put my career on the back burner to look after the kids. I'm full time again now and will progress over the next few years.

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Cotscats · 14/11/2021 22:57

Our house is solely in his name as is the mortgage. We are married with 3 children.

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Harddecisionhelp · 14/11/2021 23:00

@Cotscats

I keep thinking I'll find a way to be happier then it will be ok. I'll get my act together, get my optimism back. Counselling is an option but it would be me arranging it of course. He would happily carry on like this and that's the thing I can't understand. Why doesn't he want better than this - why doesn't he do something to help make things better?
The day you stop trying to work out why he behaves the way he does is the day you set yourself free OP, it's an absolute hiding to nothing trying to understand people who won't communicate. You've given him the opportunity, probably numerous times, to make things better, to work with you so you can all be happier and he's chosen not to take it so you can safely assume he never will. So this is it, this is what's on offer if you stay with him, you and the kids grabbing what happiness you can when he's not there and then feeling it drain away when he walks in the door. Do you honestly think your kids will be more damaged by you splitting than living like that for their entire childhood?
HesterShaw1 · 14/11/2021 23:02

You poor thing. I've been there and it really is no way to live. It sounds as though this marriage has definitely run its course. There's nothing wrong with calling time on a relationship, including marriage with children. You will thank yourself for it. It's so much easier on your own than in a relationship like this, and in time, you might meet someone much nicer. But if you don't want to, that's fine too x

Cotscats · 14/11/2021 23:02

I don't know where to begin with divorce. I do not want to leave the family home with the kids. He would not leave if I asked him to.

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HesterShaw1 · 14/11/2021 23:03

If you're married that will benefit you financially

Embracelife · 14/11/2021 23:04

*we couldn't afford two homes). And feeling like a conventional family.

Our financial situation is that he earns many times over what I earn*

So of course you can afford two homes

Maybd not as big as the one you have x two

But something you can rent til you sort the divorce
If he earns many times what you do
You are in a good position right?
See aLawyer
Get all the financial info
See a counsellor for you

Itsbeen84yearss · 14/11/2021 23:04

Omg no just end it. Your kids lives will be better for it. He sounds lazy so probably won’t bother with access and the kids can vote with their feet anyway. You’ll be free to enjoy your kids without his nasty presence

HesterShaw1 · 14/11/2021 23:04

@Cotscats

I don't know where to begin with divorce. I do not want to leave the family home with the kids. He would not leave if I asked him to.
How about going to see a solicitor for a starters? They will suggest a course of action for you.

It's daunting, I know it is.

Harddecisionhelp · 14/11/2021 23:07

@Cotscats

I don't know where to begin with divorce. I do not want to leave the family home with the kids. He would not leave if I asked him to.
I think you need to speak to a solicitor and find out where you are actually likely to stand OP. Would you feel differently if your settlement allowed you to stay in the family home do you think? If you were able to get an occupation order he would have to leave.
Twinsmummy1812 · 14/11/2021 23:07

Well things can’t carry on as they are, not good for anyone in the household. You seem reluctant to leave but perhaps you could just detach yourself bit by bit until you feel ready to leave or the two of you make a joint effort. Just bear in mind that whatever is going on in the house your children are living with and learning from. Do you want to model this life for them?

My parents were miserable and stayed together until their 60’s and my mum is still incredibly bitter and horrible about my dad. I wish they had split up when I was a child. Then again it taught me what I didn’t want but I’m not sure that is a parenting goal!

Embracelife · 14/11/2021 23:08

@Cotscats

I don't know where to begin with divorce. I do not want to leave the family home with the kids. He would not leave if I asked him to.
Why don't you want to leave? Imagine your place you choose? What s so great about your family home? Right now it s only nice when he is not in it !
youvegottenminuteslynn · 14/11/2021 23:08

Do you want you and your kids to live in a smaller, happy, healthy house or a larger, unhappy, unhealthy house that makes them feel anxious all the time? That makes them feel like they're annoying and in the way? That makes them feel trapped in a dynamic that is toxic?

You have a choice. They don't.

The house is a marital asset so it doesn't matter it's in his name.

Embracelife · 14/11/2021 23:10

Inform yourself
www.gov.uk/get-a-divorce

Pfbing · 14/11/2021 23:10

@Cotscats

I don't know if I want to leave. I grew up with divorced parents and it was awful. Neither parent was happy after the divorce and I never got over the shame I felt that my parents weren't together.

For the right now I want to find a way to co exist and be happier around my kids. How can I just emotionally detach from him. I don't want to feel so frustrated around him, I want to pretend he's not there. I'm so much worse at the week ends when we have to spend time together.

I grew up with parents who didn't divorce. Are still married now and hate eachother. They are both so bitter. Myself and both my siblings are adults. I'm sure they are still together now just because it's easier than separating because they certainly don't need to be together for us. For as long as I've understood, so maybe early teens, I had wished so much they had divorced and both had the opportunity to find people who made them truly happy. One of my parents leans on me significantly, I think because they don't have the emotional support they want from a spouse. It made things much much harder for me as a young adult, especially when I met DH and wanted more of my own life. Please don't think you are staying for the children. They won't thank you for it
Cotscats · 14/11/2021 23:11

Another reason I stay is to be present and have some control over his access to the kids. If we divorce, he will have them without me around and he is not always very nice to them. His family are toxic and they will also have more unrestricted access if we divorce. As things are now I can make sure I'm present when they see the kids.

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ldfdyjxzyjkv · 14/11/2021 23:14

OP It is easy for many to say divorce him but from what you are saying that is not an immediate solution for you. It sounds like you would like to try to find a way through this - have you suggested counselling to him? It doesn’t sound like he will engage and in that case have you considered counselling for yourself to help manage your feelings/behaviour towards your children.
Thinking really practically here can you write to him by email to discuss arrangements (rather than discuss them) and fully allocate him family admin tasks that are his responsibility? Are you able to communicate enough to agree that this is having an impact on your children and agree to treat each other respectfully when they are present? It sounds like your path is towards divorce (his behaviour is utterly inexcusable) but I am trying to think of ways for you to act on the issues that are worrying you the most as the bigger picture is sorted out. It sounds like you can see things clearly and that is the first step.

CherryPieface · 14/11/2021 23:15

I’m so sorry to hear about your situation OP. But read the title of your post again and think about what you’ve told us. You are in a strong position to get a divorce and live a different and happier life. Please speak to a solicitor xxx

Wombat49 · 14/11/2021 23:18

My mum was miserable, she stayed "because of you kids". Not great to hear. It was all a bit grim & abusive. I'd be looking at the wheel of abuse, if I was you too.

Read Brene Brown about the effects of shame.

No way to live.

I'm in a happy marriage. We talk all the time & it's great. So much easier to sort out minor resentments before they get bad. And I have adhd, so I'm emotionally dysregulated a lot of the time but because I can talk through things, I don't get frustrated.

You're short-tempered, tired & resentful because you are frustrated with the situation.

Cotscats · 14/11/2021 23:20

Imagining a life without him makes me feel lighter.

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WhenPushComesToShove · 14/11/2021 23:21

Would highly recommend counselling to get you both properly communicating about how you feel. My ex used to storm off and gaslight, then later pretend nothing had happened. He hated the counselling as he was pulled up on telling me what I think instead of actually listening and I loved it because for a change, he was forced to sit and listen without shouting or overriding. Whether you stay or go, being heard is so important

EmeraldShamrock · 14/11/2021 23:21

I cannot stand anyone over the age of 6 sulking, it is emotional manipulation.
You deserve so much more.
I opened your thread expecting to say we all go through phases but this is seriously damaging to you and the DC.

Cotscats · 14/11/2021 23:22

I also need to talk through things to cope @Wombat49. And he won't talk. It's a recipe for disaster. Talking to a counsellor would help fill that gap.

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EmeraldShamrock · 14/11/2021 23:22

Imagining a life without him makes me feel lighter. Sad
Your instincts are screaming to be free.

Nanny0gg · 14/11/2021 23:23

@Cotscats

I keep thinking I'll find a way to be happier then it will be ok. I'll get my act together, get my optimism back. Counselling is an option but it would be me arranging it of course. He would happily carry on like this and that's the thing I can't understand. Why doesn't he want better than this - why doesn't he do something to help make things better?
You need counselling for yourself. Not couples counselling.

You need to find the strength to split