Alice Evans on Lorraine

[Creamcrackersandricecakes]

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

Bluntness100 so we should believe the rumours about her but not about him? I think your biases are showing

There are and habe never been rumours about him other than what Alice is posting, but the point is you should not believe either and apply critical thinking that as said, this is not as simple as she was just dumped for a younger model.

Bluntness100 so we should believe the rumours about her but not about him? I think your biases are showing

The thing for me is that it's only unsubstantiated, unresponded-to claims about him vs actual ongoing behaviour by her that is being displayed to the world.

I am not even saying what Alice's saying isn't true, it may very well be, or at least it may very well be what she truly believes to be the case (affair etc). We will likely never know, as even Alice has no evidence of an affair given that she has only accused him since she discovered his new relationship.

I didn't know anything about either of them before all this, so I wouldn't comment on things that have gone before. But it just seems bizarre that 2 people can split up and one of them can act out massively, oversharing and lashing out, doing newspaper and TV interviews, posting pictures of her and her ex together and making snarky comments about him and his new gf, and the other can do nothing except post one pic of him and his new gf on his own instagram page, and yet she is defended and he is vilified. All while nobody has any further information beyond what Alice has shared publicly, which obviously is all her own interpretation and comes from a place of real hurt?

Alice posted this on Twitter, there's just no need. Wearing a summer dress is not half naked and she has no proof this woman was sleeping with IG.

Apologies for my ignorance here but who is she in terms of being on tv? I mean, is she famous? I've genuinely never heard of her 🙈 Either way, my heart went right out to her. I've been in a very very similar position, even down to the nastiness on his part and the refusing to communicate at all. It destroys you. I ended up with PTSD from it which I was gobsmacked to be told but apparently so

He's an arsehole but shes prob going to regret laying her emotional distress out there when she's moved on. Her children are going to see it / get told about it & its sure to distress them. I hope she has someone to talk to/to support her.

@Cocolapew

Alice posted this on Twitter, there's just no need. Wearing a summer dress is not half naked and she has no proof this woman was sleeping with IG.

Wtf? That's harassment. The woman in the picture should speak to the police.

Alice has been doing this sort of stuff for years. Way back when they first got together, IG had a fan website and Alice used to create sock puppet accounts and go on the forum slagging fans off. It's all out there documented. IG had to close the website down in the end.

I'm only surprised the marriage lasted as long as it did.

She’s just posted on Instagram as well. Honestly what’s even the point of this and to use her kids like this is so disturbing.

I have just watched the Lorraine interview and thought she came over well. The posts like the one up thread will damage no one except the kids, she's getting a kick out of it as she thinks it's a way of attacking him/ her and he doesn't care as it's more fuel to the fire in a messy divorce.

The doxxing threats by her absolutely did happen - she offered rewards to her followers to identify posters on an anonymous gossip forum. She is a bit unhinged and I do worry for her kids. But IG has equally left them with her

@PaulRuddsWife

Alice has been doing this sort of stuff for years. Way back when they first got together, IG had a fan website and Alice used to create sock puppet accounts and go on the forum slagging fans off. It's all out there documented. IG had to close the website down in the end.

I'm only surprised the marriage lasted as long as it did.

God that's crackers. Clearly deep-seated insecurities have been around for a long time. She's in California where everyone and their aunt is in therapy so hopefully she goes that route.

@Creamcrackersandricecakes

I couldn't help wondering if she could find herself, (legally), on shaky ground, by referring to IG's girlfriend as his 'mistress'. Unless she has concrete proof their relationship started before the separation, then surely that could be construed as libellous? (Or slanderous, not sure which applies here!)

They're still legally married so her statement is factually correct unless estranged hubz and his paramour haven't consummated the relationship. (what are the chances of that?)

I think she should stop now but I have no sympathy for the gruesome twosome synchronising their relationship reveal on Insta.

Shaming others is her quick sandbag overboard way to feel less worthless and humiliated. Obviously she's not conscious of that. Where is the therapist she referred to?? I hope she booked urgent sessions

I feel sorry for anyone going through the pain of a breakup , but i am actually cringing at her behaviour .
She may not think it at the moment but she will get over this in time , and i imagine she may look back at the things she posted and feel a bit embarrassed .
I know we are all different but no way would i let my kids see me falling apart like this , their lives have been affected by their dad moving out ,they need as much security as possible .
Of course she has every right to scream and cry over his treatment of her ,but surely in a split like this the children should always come first, and she should be thinking of how her behaviour will impact them.
Also my pride would not allow me to let him see me a snivelling wreck, no matter what !
I know very little about either of them , i hope he hasn't betrayed her with his new woman, i expect he has ,but equally there are always two sides in any relationship and it may not be much fun for him either .

Although there are two huge reasons why parents don’t fight in public (here, the Griffith DDs), in principle I think it’s not such a bad idea to show the rest of how horribly hurt a human can be when their marriage breaks up. So well done AE.

Man or woman both - sometimes dignity = pure enabling of the leaver to behave badly. Or worse. Drives me nuts how many women are left to do the explaining too after Daddy scarpers.

But in this case, I suspect anyone hysterical and nuts enough to go out looking for attention as hard as AE has may not have been the perfect, blameless Angel in The House Spouse.

Sadly, I reckon I’m not the only one who winces at the puffy-faced shrieked and thinks Thank God he left the Drama Queen.

Be careful what you wish for, Alice.

There's only three things about this that we can know are true; 1) that no one can know the truth of why a marriage ends - sometimes even the couple themselves 2) it's all terribly sad and difficult for both parties and their children 3) the kids will inevitably be affected by this.

In literary terms she's an 'unreliable narrator', he's a silent one. Maybe he did or didn't have an affair, maybe she is unhinged or drinking when she posts and maybe she's stone cold sober and out to get him. Maybe he's tried to see his kids, perhaps he's walked away. Maybe she's deliberately trying to alienate the kids, maybe she just can't control herself. Maybe there is no 'truth'.

Everything else is random strangers filling in the gaps and taking sides.

I speak as a 'wronged wife' who remembers the pain, anger and sheer devastation after exH suddenly left for an OW. I did and said some pretty OTT things about and to him in the weeks and months afterwards, all very out of character. Luckily I was not a minor celebrity with children and access to social media or I too might have emotionally impacted kids and an embarrassing online legacy due to behaviour I regret years later. I also got help and made myself sort myself out and had greatly moved on after a year or so. I hope she eventually can too.

She may not think it at the moment but she will get over this in time , and i imagine she may look back at the things she posted and feel a bit embarrassed

I don’t think she will. She’s done this stuff for years. When she was sock puppeting on loans Fan site hassling and attacking fans, she was also posting as herself and wrote “why would I be embarrassed I have loan gruffed inside me ever night” .

It’s just a new target, it’s now him. But she’s been fighting and bullying on social media for years and years. It’s not new behaviour. It’s just it’s now him she’s turned on.

I actually think she’s jealous of his career and always has been. She’s now trying to ruin it.

Oh dear, I feel desperately sorry for AE - she clearly loved IG so much. She still doesn’t want to let him go, does she.

I wonder if he knows what he’s lost.

Alice allegedly cheated with a Vampire Diaries actor. She’s on shaky ground morally. In any case, whatever the facts are, this matter should be handled privately for the sake off the children. I’m not in the “go girl” camp I’m afraid.

@Supersimkin2

Although there are two huge reasons why parents don’t fight in public (here, the Griffith DDs), in principle I think it’s not such a bad idea to show the rest of how horribly hurt a human can be when their marriage breaks up. So well done AE.

Man or woman both - sometimes dignity = pure enabling of the leaver to behave badly. Or worse. Drives me nuts how many women are left to do the explaining too after Daddy scarpers.

But in this case, I suspect anyone hysterical and nuts enough to go out looking for attention as hard as AE has may not have been the perfect, blameless Angel in The House Spouse.

Sadly, I reckon I’m not the only one who winces at the puffy-faced shrieked and thinks Thank God he left the Drama Queen.

Be careful what you wish for, Alice.

Unless we've been living in a box we all know how horribly hurt people will be after the unwanted breakup of a marriage or LTR. We all have friends and family who have been through it, if not ourselves.

The whole point of these discussions about AE on Mumsnet is: is she wise to be so vocally and publicaly vitriolic?

The only answer can be no. No matter how much of an arsehole IG might or might not be, no man is going to act differently because of AE's tweets. No person in the whole world is going to learn anything new about the pain of a relationship breaking up from them. She is achieving literally nothing excepting hurting herself and her children. I'm not sure her children should be left in her care tbh.

She's being a really poor parent at the moment. I'm sure some people might say "Well, what about him?" but I don't care. You don't get to opt out just because you're angry at the other parent.

Doing this interview was a mistake imo. It was honestly one of the cringiest moments on telly I've seen in a while. Clearly, this woman is hurting. She also comes across so incredibly fragile. Mentally, I mean. Like it wouldn't take much for her to be pushed over the edge so to speak. It was extremely uncomfortable to watch. Can't believe anyone thought this was a good idea.

Ultimately she’s being very selfish where the kids are concerned. Their father is a part of them and all she is going to do is make them feel guilty for loving him.

@Creamcrackersandricecakes

I couldn't help wondering if she could find herself, (legally), on shaky ground, by referring to IG's girlfriend as his 'mistress'. Unless she has concrete proof their relationship started before the separation, then surely that could be construed as libellous? (Or slanderous, not sure which applies here!)

Are they still married, or divorced? If still married, she technically is his mistress

@Creamcrackersandricecakes

I couldn't help wondering if she could find herself, (legally), on shaky ground, by referring to IG's girlfriend as his 'mistress'. Unless she has concrete proof their relationship started before the separation, then surely that could be construed as libellous? (Or slanderous, not sure which applies here!)

Is she not mistress as they’re still married?