Alice Evans on Lorraine

[Creamcrackersandricecakes]

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

@Almostmenopausal

Apologies for my ignorance here but who is she in terms of being on tv? I mean, is she famous? I've genuinely never heard of her 🙈 Either way, my heart went right out to her. I've been in a very very similar position, even down to the nastiness on his part and the refusing to communicate at all. It destroys you. I ended up with PTSD from it which I was gobsmacked to be told but apparently so

I googled them both. It appears they were in the 101 Dalmatians film together. She does look very different now.

@Ailsa2021

Doing this interview was a mistake imo. It was honestly one of the cringiest moments on telly I've seen in a while. Clearly, this woman is hurting. She also comes across so incredibly fragile. Mentally, I mean. Like it wouldn't take much for her to be pushed over the edge so to speak. It was extremely uncomfortable to watch. Can't believe anyone thought this was a good idea.

To be fair on its on I didn't think the interview was bad at all, I was expecting worse. Of course she's mentally fragile , her whole life has been turned upside down. You'd be a bit odd of you weren't mentally fragile BUT the tweets and instas are a whole other level.

I think good for her for speaking out.
It’s her life, her divorce. It affects nobody else apart from her and her close family.
I’m sure she’s thought about her children’s well-being and decided this is still the way to go.
She’s doing things her way and not subscribing to dignified silence nonsense.
I’d rather she spoke out and lashed out then kept quiet and killed herself or something. Then everyone would be saying how sad it is.

.. disclaimer I’ve not been following the story but don’t know that much about it.

Her behaviour is appalling. She’s been bullying and fat shaming poor Ella Newton - a 20 year old co-star of IG. Awful.

And calling out all his cast mates and lying about them etc. Maximum humiliation for him 😬

@HikingforScenery

I think good for her for speaking out. It’s her life, her divorce. It affects nobody else apart from her and her close family. I’m sure she’s thought about her children’s well-being and decided this is still the way to go. She’s doing things her way and not subscribing to dignified silence nonsense. I’d rather she spoke out and lashed out then kept quiet and killed herself or something. Then everyone would be saying how sad it is.

.. disclaimer I’ve not been following the story but don’t know that much about it.

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People are really relating to this story of him allegedly cheating on his long suffering wife and then leaving her for a woman half her age.

Because it's such a common story Alice has jumped on the similarities without actually sticking to the truth of the matter to gain sympathy.

If people were to look at how she's been behaving online I hope they'd be shocked and have another think about how manipulative she's been of public opinion.

I think I said earlier that initially I was very sympathetic to her plight. I had heard of her vaguely in the past but it was only all this kicking off that drew them both to my attention and because I found it sad and interesting I looked into it further.

I'm appalled she's saying she's doing this for scorned women going through the same, that's clearly just lip service to something that will also gather her support when her real agenda is clearly to destroy anyone remotely connected with her ex husband.

Her bullying and encouragement of harassment and doxxing of people (thanks to the PP who confirmed that was true) online is absolutely shocking!

A lot of people just aren't aware though because as I said they relate to her in the cleverly done Lorraine interview and look no further.

Those who think she’s anything less than the abuser in the relationship need to wake up.

As for criticising him for not seeing his kids - again, wake up. She’s clearly alienating them; and she is now trying to gaslight the entire world through her drunken ranting.

She needs help and so do her children.

I posted on the other thread that's now full, and like many others I do feel torn. She's clearly not in a good place in terms of her mental health and she needs proper, real life support, not just online TEAM ALICE types.

I do have an enormous amount of sympathy for her. But all I keep seeing is her exploiting her situation for attention, and being really quite vitriolic. I'm not saying she should keep absolutely silent. But the more bizarre and vicious her rantings become, the more I have to wonder how much of what she says is true - or even based in fact.

Never been a fan of Alice Evans, always found her a tad bit annoying tbh. But loved Ioan Gruffudd (probably because I am a fellow welshie). However, I have found myself feeling rather sorry for Alice and their children. They seemed so happy for many years, so his reaction recently is at odds to how he has previously portrayed himself with his family. I really hope he hasn't become one of those "I'm ditching my wife and kids for a younger model" kind of guy. But, alas, it looks like he has 😭

AledsiPad, that's quite a claim...to accuse her of being drunk. Any evidence of this?

As I stated on the previous thread, I think Alice needs some be serious intervention. I am worried about her mental state, and how this impacts on her daughters.

Gods sake. Let’s stop the nonsense. She is harassing him and that is literally the only thing there is evidence of.

People need to stop making up their own versions of things, or blindly believing the narrative of a clearly unwell woman, all for the sake of blaming the man.

This is now farcical.

Nonsense? What we have evidence of is a woman who is having a rather public meltdown. I, and many others, are seriously worried about her mental health, and how that impacts on their daughters.

As I said, she is clearly unwell. The nonsense is people posting like she’s doing all this as a hero. She is not. She’s clearly struggling, harassing him and his partner, embarrassing their poor children and no one is intervening.

People saying ‘well done’ and praising her behaviour are not doing Alice any favours. Simply put change the genders and everyone would be screaming ‘Log this with 101, they’ll be able to track [their] behaviour.’

Ioan Gruffudd, if your wife is such a danger to your kids; if you think she is putting them in harm's way, then petition for them right now.
Ah, but he hasn't, has he? So, how long will he let this terrible, mentally incapable mother be the sole carer for his babies?
Alice has had sole responsibility for their kids for a long, long time. Supporting her husband while her career was put on hold. I can't understand how so many are against her.

And just to point out... I am not in favour of how she is behaving on SM or mainstream media, but I can understand her pain. I just hope that Ioan can see what is going on. Those poor kids need some respite from all of this.

You realise he hasn’t said that she’s incapable right? He’s said nothing… That post was almost pointless BUT it does help to highlight how people conflate social media comments and reality. He’s never said she’s incapable, others saying she is (unfairly maybe) is not him saying that?

I assume that all negotiations about responsibilities for children are taking place behind the scenes between each parties lawyers. A wise client keeps their traps shut, powders dry & lets their lawyers do the talking.

Seemingly until the recent photo IG has said nowt publicly about the situation between them, whereas AE has been singing like the proverbial canary on SM, banging & crashing about posting whilst pissed/beyond herself, making sharp & insulting comments about people & then removing said comments. Sadly, AE is having a very public meltdown & despite many pleas/kindly comments to step away from SM to protect both herself & her children, she persists.

@BabyBearRus

Ioan Gruffudd, if your wife is such a danger to your kids; if you think she is putting them in harm's way, then petition for them right now. Ah, but he hasn't, has he? So, how long will he let this terrible, mentally incapable mother be the sole carer for his babies? Alice has had sole responsibility for their kids for a long, long time. Supporting her husband while her career was put on hold. I can't understand how so many are against her.

But none of this is true.

He has that we know of so far, petitioned for joint custody.

He hasn't questioned her suitability/capacity as a parent anywhere public.

She wasn't sole carer for the children. She has also worked. They have had 2 staff in the past and now employ a 9-5 nanny, both children attend school. He has been home in between shoots and she recently complained on twitter that he didn't work for a whole year, so he was at home then too.

She may or may not have put her career on hold for him but we don't know this for sure. For all we know they discussed how they wanted it to work for both of them and this was the solution they came up with.

I don't understand why the interest in adding bits in or making extra bits up?

I would say that Alice has had the primary responsibility for the children for the vast amount of time. IG has, by all public accounts, been enjoying silent time with his kids .

Primary carer is very different to Sole carer though isn't it.

And the rest is just untrue according to the facts in public view at the moment.

I like the fact that she's speaking out. Everything she's saying resonates with me and those of my friends who have had similar experiences.

You don't know what it's like to be betrayed in a long marriage until you've experienced it, but it sure suits the men for society to tell us discarded women to be 'dignified' and 'not bitter.'

I never spoke a word about my divorce to anyone. I did the right thing and was dignified. My xh must have been thrilled that our families and friends don't know the extent of his awful behaviour.

I can't imagine how hurtful that photograph must have been for her, or the supportive comments he received about being 'finally happy' when their happiness was built on her utter devastation.

Of course he's maintained a 'dignified silence' - there's nothing honest he can say that doesn't make him sound like a despicable person.

The marriage of a friend ended in a similar way and she reacted like Alice. She was utterly obsessed with the ex (no social media then thank heavens) and didnt stop constantly talking and speculating about him for about 8 years or so. One of the saddest things I recall is that she heard the date of his new marriage, 4 years after the split, and took their 2 young sons (8 and 6) to watch the wedding party leave the registry office from across the street. I found this unspeakably cruel. She said they should know what he'd done. Some people can't help themselves and they need compassion but it's a stretch at times.

@BabyBearRus

Ioan Gruffudd, if your wife is such a danger to your kids; if you think she is putting them in harm's way, then petition for them right now. Ah, but he hasn't, has he? So, how long will he let this terrible, mentally incapable mother be the sole carer for his babies? Alice has had sole responsibility for their kids for a long, long time. Supporting her husband while her career was put on hold. I can't understand how so many are against her.

Yes he has, Alice has spoken about it regularly. He is going for joint custody, however loan has never said she’s a danger to her kids etc. that’s the rest of us.

But they are in a bitter custody battle, she even said on the Lorraine show she didn’t know how often she’d be able to see her kids after this.

What I find curious is the woman on Lorraine, was devastated, fragile, vulnerable. The woman who tweets is abusive and nasty.

What I can’t do is reconcile the two, you’d not expect the online bully to be sitting crying like that, and you’d not expect someone crying like that to be tweeting nasty abusive stuff.

And even though she was so devastated being interviewed, she was very careful about what she said, kept saying “I’m not bashing him” “it’s his right” blah blah blah.

Which leads me to the terrifying conclusion, was she putting on an act on the Lorraine snow because that’s what she thought would garner her sympathy? To play the weeping abandoned wife?

Becayse the personality on twitter and the person on Lorraine are really he’s right reconcile as the same person.