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Alice Evans on Lorraine

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Creamcrackersandricecakes · 11/11/2021 09:32

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

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Bluntness100 · 16/11/2021 21:45

@whenthedoveslie

I feel really sorry for her, she’s loosing everything. Literally. She’s loosing custody of her kids, she will loose her home, everything, that’s what’s happeming to her, she’s on there loosing it all because of her behaviour and there’s a bunch of people egging her on.

Pretending she’s some form of icon for cheated on women, so they can grubbily get the details and claim they are mates with a celeb.

It’s just one of the cruelest things I’ve ever seen. They are literally watching her loose it all and shouting you go girl. It’s sick.

Ehh, yet here you all are with your commentary and screen shots. Blunt, It is lose btw.

Well I don’t know about you but I’m certainly not tweeting on there and I’d rather eat my own liver than egg her on. I really don’t understand how you can compare someone directly communicating with her and egging her on to basically self harm and this discussion?
BruiserWoods · 16/11/2021 21:53

He's going for full custody? Omg, she walked herself in to this.

Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 22:01

She is threatening someone currently saying they need to watch out and she is screen shotting etc no idea how that will help, she isnt saying anything particularly bad. They are basically disagreeing with someone whos egging her on and its bizarre

Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 22:02

She is arguing on the ex twitter picture of him and current gf 😬 i really feel i shouldnt even look its such a weird thing

Bluntness100 · 16/11/2021 22:04

Yes, she’s in serious trouble. He was going for joint custody and to do it as a cordial agreement between them, but she agreed then renaged and with held the children. Basically told him to go fuck himself.

From what she’s posting they are accusing her of being an unfit parent, committing parental alientation towards loan and she’s being asked to leave the house and he will continue to live there with the children to give them stability, there is also a prenup which she thinks isn’t going to give her much.

She’s very upset her children can’t say in court who they would rather live with, that it needs to be handled by the childrens therapists, and that she feels strongly her children should have no relationship right now with loan becayse he has a girlfriend.

She’s literally loosing it all because of her social media behaviour. It is really sad to see.

Pinkspecs · 16/11/2021 22:06

Well that's good you aren't @sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea but it's also not vitriolic to post otherwise about an experience like that which is what I was saying, it's also totally ok to get validation from people after going through abuse.
No one has to 'not breathe a word of it' as you did.

As I say my post before didn't refer to an abusive relationship because AE marriage wasn't abusive.
(As far as we know.)
So it's not really relevant, abusive marriages generally end very badly.
A marriage of 20 years I think you can both, even through the heartache work through it all to reach a peaceful resolution.
These things take time and imo a year isn't very long and when the relationship is as turbulent as it is further posts that are to rub it in her face with a caption which was a heartless put down to make her feel bad doesn't help anyone let alone the kids.

There is no desire to stop this from happening on BOTH sides here.

Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 22:12

@Pinkspecs

Well that's good you aren't *@sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea* but it's also not vitriolic to post otherwise about an experience like that which is what I was saying, it's also totally ok to get validation from people after going through abuse. No one has to 'not breathe a word of it' as you did.

As I say my post before didn't refer to an abusive relationship because AE marriage wasn't abusive.
(As far as we know.)
So it's not really relevant, abusive marriages generally end very badly.
A marriage of 20 years I think you can both, even through the heartache work through it all to reach a peaceful resolution.
These things take time and imo a year isn't very long and when the relationship is as turbulent as it is further posts that are to rub it in her face with a caption which was a heartless put down to make her feel bad doesn't help anyone let alone the kids.

There is no desire to stop this from happening on BOTH sides here.

When u said both sides, thats a bit of a stretch he has posted one picture a year after breaking up of his new gf , she has spent the whole year on social media trashing him and his new gf and seemingly completely ignoring how her behaviour would effect their children. She isnt considering her children right now with her twitter ranging.
Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 22:13

*ranting she clearly needs real life support not twitter 'friends' hanging on her ever word.

Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 22:17

I actually take back the whole year as i dont believe it is. But the last 4 to 6 weeks at least and daily ranting with name calling and generally being awful about her ex and his patner.

Pinkspecs · 16/11/2021 22:18

It wasn't just a picture though was it, it had a caption to intentionally upset her, it was also with a woman who was 20 years younger than her @Newrunner29.
I would say that that alone was enough to cause ALOT of damage.

Pinkspecs · 16/11/2021 22:22

I didn't realise it was only 4-6 weeks so thanks for clearing that up.
But I still think that what he did was really spiteful.
Especially when she's quite clearly a mess.

Thesummeriwas16 · 16/11/2021 22:25

@Pinkspecs

I didn't realise it was only 4-6 weeks so thanks for clearing that up. But I still think that what he did was really spiteful. Especially when she's quite clearly a mess.
Yes, I've always said this too but I wish she would stop with the ranting for her sake and the girls'.
Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 22:25

"Thank u for making me smile again" its not u are the only one making me smile , people have said to her that hes awful for not thinking his children make him smile, that wasnt even what was said! U think that enough to cause damage? He is divorcing his ex im assuming hes not smiling with his ex at moment. I dont actually think its the god awful thing . Yes its obviously not great hes moved on but people do there isnt a set time where its acceptable time. Its not like its a month after filing for divorce its nearly a year! I dont think it is in same league as what she has done. She has obviously been deleting her awful tweets but that doesnt make it ok. She obviously is in a lot of pain but that also doesnt make it ok. She is hurting her children with her insistence of pouring and ranting about her ex. Her childrens father.

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 16/11/2021 22:26

@pinkspecs But what AE is doing IS vitriolic, is damaging, is an absolute car crash. She seems beyond the point of rational thought, lashing out at any & everyone (her MiL is a narc, FiL was head of an 'elitist Welsh-speaking school', IG & B are obviously off at cokehead parties, when they're not stalking her on twitter with their 348 sockpuppet accounts, her children & nanny are ill, yet she's still up at 04:00 in the morning posting ever more incoherent rants).

I am not in any way defending IG, because I simply don't know what happened between them. But all he has done is post one single photo (admittedly, it was crass). Compare & contrast with her behaviour, especially recently.

Bluntness100 · 16/11/2021 22:27

@Pinkspecs

It wasn't just a picture though was it, it had a caption to intentionally upset her, it was also with a woman who was 20 years younger than her *@Newrunner29*. I would say that that alone was enough to cause ALOT of damage.
A year after they split? The mans entitled ti move on with both partner of his choice, no court in the western world will say he’s not, and she’s no evidence of an Affair.

But it’s irrelevant, an Affair is not a crime, otherwise we would need a fuck ton more jails. An affair doesn’t mean you’re an unfit parent, it doesn’t mean you’re commiting parental alienation, family law is not punitive. It doesn’t judge you shagged someone else so should loose your kids,

What does happen though is evidence of abuse, using your children as weapons, causing them emotional damage, preventing the other parent seeing them, stalking, harrassment and likely many other things like alcohol abuse, emotional instability etc will have the court decide which parent is best placed to care for the children, provide them with stability and what is in their best interests.

Right now she’s proving that’s loan, time and time again. His silence and legal battle behind the scenes to take the children, in the face of this daily onslaught is pretty much guaranteeing he will take full custody.

Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 22:27

So if someone has taken a break up really badly like needing professional help, really struggling what time frame do u suggest i mean can the other person ever be public with another person. Because surely anytime they publicly move on they are wrong in their eyes. Also we only have her side of what hes done. I have no idea if he cheated.

Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 22:30

@Pinkspecs

I didn't realise it was only 4-6 weeks so thanks for clearing that up. But I still think that what he did was really spiteful. Especially when she's quite clearly a mess.
To be honest i have no idea how long could have been a year i have just seen last 2 months of the tweeter rangs she hasnt deleted
Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 22:31

Twitter rants, she hasnt deleted

Thesummeriwas16 · 16/11/2021 22:34

The cynic in me would say that he put the picture up on instagram with a caption on purpose to push her over the edge, as he would know it would do, so he could push for full custody.

Butchyrestingface · 16/11/2021 22:35

But I still think that what he did was really spiteful.

I'm beginning to think it wasn't so much spiteful as a deliberate attempt to really set her off (by God, it worked). At this rate, he's gonna get the kids, the house, a very favourable settlement and a long term gig as the face of a domestic abuse/coercive control campaign.

Bluntness100 · 16/11/2021 22:45

@Thesummeriwas16

The cynic in me would say that he put the picture up on instagram with a caption on purpose to push her over the edge, as he would know it would do, so he could push for full custody.
To be honest even if it was, I think he’s allowed one crack at her no? After the daily abuse he’s been taking? I have to be honest if I was on the receiving end of it, I’d have hit back much more, than one “thanks for making me smile again”
sarah13xx · 16/11/2021 22:47

The Alice that was in 102 dalmatians was so sweet/innocent and had girl next door vibes.. not the Alice we see now at all! Totally not against plastic surgery if it’s what people want to do with their own body but she looks completely different and it’s not even because she looks older. She’s like a different person!

The Instagram thing with people saying do people not understand how Instagram works, posts could have been liked recently from years ago. Has anyone ever followed you on Instagram and liked posts of yours from 3 years ago? The only people who have ever done that to me have sent me creepy messages about 15 seconds later and I’ve had to block them. I highly highly doubt she’s liked pictures from 3 years ago in 2020. Not saying they were having an affair for 3 years but she’s definitely either known him/spoken to him or something.

Also think the news article where it says Alice has claimed to have been a friend of Bianca’s has picked the whole story up wrong. I think Alice’s post referring to a friend betraying her (or whatever the wording was) was to do with Tamzin Outhwaite because Alice had a go at her for ‘knowing all along’ when all she’d commented on Bianca’s post was she looked nice 🤔

Wineandroses3 · 16/11/2021 22:48

I think most ppl watching will feel a lot of sympathy for her, I hope she gets through it and gets strong again, I wish people wouldn’t skate her for it though , the one person in the whole thing whose come out as a complete shit bag is him. I hope she can build herself back up again and do another interview maybe In 12 months showing how she can shine. I am not one of these that believes women should maintain a “dignified silence” I’m in favour of a “dignified response”!

Thesummeriwas16 · 16/11/2021 22:51

She's ill. I worry if he does get full custody what that will do to her and also to the children.

Pinkspecs · 16/11/2021 22:54

"So if someone has taken a break up really badly like needing professional help, really struggling what time frame do u suggest i mean can the other person ever be public with another person. Because surely anytime they publicly move on they are wrong in their eyes. Also we only have her side of what hes done. I have no idea if he cheated."

Cheating aside for me as I actually think cheating is so off-putting that I wouldn't want my partner back.
For me as I said and this is my opinion it's not fact, it would be to do with the length of the relationship, so if you are with someone for 20 years then it must feel like a death, like grief when someone doesn't want you anymore, especially when you love them, I can empathize with that as
I know after a decade with my husband if he told me he didn't love me tomorrow and left me it would totally rock my world, much more than any other shorter relationships I have had.
And especially if he did a post as her ex did.

In my opinion timing is everything as is how you frame things.
I think giving people time to adjust and if it takes a while longer then so be it. I don't think a year is long at all after a break up of a marriage of 20 years.
Setting down the foundations for a healthy co parenting relationship would be key for me and then telling the ex when you meet someone and feel it is going somewhere after that is dealt with.
Not posting it for the world to see without warning with a caption intended to hurt I think after 20 years I would owe that to my ex.

I would also help my ex seek therapy.
I would want them to feel better and actually I do think remaining civil working with them would help them along.
Putting up barriers and refusing to speak to her as he is but posting messages intended to hurt shows he is no better.

20 years is such a long time and it's the crux for me in how I view her heartbreak.