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Alice Evans on Lorraine

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Creamcrackersandricecakes · 11/11/2021 09:32

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

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Noeuf · 16/11/2021 14:18

I think the caption was catty and provocative - they could have thought of something less ‘hint of victim’ if they wanted to stay squeaky clean. Either say it or don’t. But AE is so devastated and furious and the feeding of her on Twitter is unhelpful and purely for selfish reasons (here’s someone like me! I’m talking to a sleb! This is so gripping! Etc). I’ve read it as it’s on my radar. I just feel sorry for all of them.

ExcaliburBaby · 16/11/2021 14:19

It’s a toxic mess. And what isn’t helping is all her new “friends” on Twitter egging her on. Clearly loving the fact they are “friends” with a celeb and really they are being quite damaging in terms of the “support” they are giving on Twitter, making her into the poster girl for abandoned wives when no one actually knows what went on in the marriage. I do think IG really misjudged posting that Insta pic and it’s a total cliche that his new girlfriend is half his age. But the fact remains if their roles were reversed and he was attacking AE on social media and betraying her privacy like this, everyone would be calling him out for it etc. You can feel massive sympathy for the position she is in as a women/wife/mother while also thinking that her trolling and social media rants are not ok.

friendlycat · 16/11/2021 14:21

Having read some of her tweets it’s of course very sad, but nobody owns another person and her manipulative and distorted version of basic facts is ridiculous.

They split up a year ago, or more even. She seems to feel that her god given right to happiness for the rest of her life outweighs any of his feelings whatsoever. Her manipulation with the children is also awful behaviour.

Everyone can see she is hurting but presumably so was he previously.
Nobody owns another person. He was unhappy and called time on his marriage and surely that’s his right to do so.

I can’t see what she is possibly trying to achieve here as her rants are just making her look highly vindictive (ok some could say fair enough) but also highly controlling and unstable.

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 16/11/2021 14:22

pinkspecs, I left my partner of 16yrs. Not once have I ever said publicly how horrific it was. Only two people know what went on - my mum and my now DP. ExP was apparently 'devastated' when I ended things. So devastated he started seeing someone new within three weeks. I would have been perfectly within my rights to let the world know what he did to me, the threats against me, how his family behaved, the situation I ended up in. I didn't breathe a word of it. Because my DC would have been damaged by it - and they were more important than ME ME ME getting validation and attention.

What do you think AE is hoping to achieve by this? Serious question. What would be the best outcome for her, their children, etc? And what is she actually doing to make sure that's a possibility? I'm not in any way saying she should be over the end of the relationship, but this is so wilfully self-destructive that there is no coming back from it now.

BarefootHippieChick · 16/11/2021 14:26

According to AE, there is no money (he's using it all on expensive lawyers), she's penniless and thinking of starting a gofundme.

friendlycat · 16/11/2021 14:28

As mentioned just above I can’t see what she’s hoping to achieve by this. What does she want?
It’s not helping her, it’s not benefiting the children and he’s just remaining silent and not fuelling the fire.

WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 16/11/2021 14:31

she's penniless and thinking of starting a gofundme.

Dear God 😑

Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 14:39

She isnt starting a movement, a person can divorce another person if they want to. I would be devastated and think my world would end if my husband got a divorce, we have been together for nearly 20 years. But he has every right to do that. And i have no right to make him not. Its not about woman being silented to me , i wouldnt shout it from rooftops how awful he was and put it all over social media not becuase i think he should get away with it but because i wouldn't want our children to see it and i wouldn't want them to feel guilty for having a relationship with their dad. But my relationship and theirs are completely different. What she is doing is horrendous behaviour towards her children. She is not thinking about her children at all. She needs professional help and these new 'friends' on twitter are not friends they are egging on a soap opera

Iamdobby63 · 16/11/2021 14:41

I’m sure his lawyers are needing to write a lot of letters!

Pinkspecs · 16/11/2021 14:53

@sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea

pinkspecs, I left my partner of 16yrs. Not once have I ever said publicly how horrific it was. Only two people know what went on - my mum and my now DP. ExP was apparently 'devastated' when I ended things. So devastated he started seeing someone new within three weeks. I would have been perfectly within my rights to let the world know what he did to me, the threats against me, how his family behaved, the situation I ended up in. I didn't breathe a word of it. Because my DC would have been damaged by it - and they were more important than ME ME ME getting validation and attention.

What do you think AE is hoping to achieve by this? Serious question. What would be the best outcome for her, their children, etc? And what is she actually doing to make sure that's a possibility? I'm not in any way saying she should be over the end of the relationship, but this is so wilfully self-destructive that there is no coming back from it now.

They aren't in a domestic violence relationship though I don't think those types of relationships are comparable. And as I stated I was talking about my current marriage which doesn't have any form of domestic violence like Alice Evans' didn't. (As far as we know.)

I have also been in a domestic violence relationship, I also didn't speak publicly about it.
I don't think I would have been wrong if I had decided to though.
I don't believe as a victim I should have been ashamed to speak out about it and my children who are older now are aware of what happened.
One of them did witness one incident that they had remembered, which was the last as I left.
It certainly hasn't damaged them to know more of what happened.
They have actually learnt through talking with me about it, boundaries and what is an acceptable way to treat other people and about healthy relationships.

There is a shame associated with being a domestic violence victim, when there shouldn't be.

I can't tell you what she hopes to achieve from it because I am not her.
But I think those questions could also be asked of her ex husband with putting up such a spiteful post I don't think he's hoping to achieve anything either.

Newrunner29 · 16/11/2021 15:00

There is no comparison with domestic violence. Domestic violence would be a completely different situation and rightly. When relationship breaks down their is probably going to be hurt and sadness on one or both sides. this doesnt mean the relationship should never break , obviously in ideal world divorces dont happen but they are a possibility and no one should be forced to feel they need to stay in a marriage that isnt what they want because they dont want to 'damage' other person.

ESGdance · 16/11/2021 15:09

@WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps

she's penniless and thinking of starting a gofundme.

Dear God 😑

She will be mightily disappointed when her disingenuous goading cheerleaders scatter like rats. They are only there for the entertainment.
Glassofshloer · 16/11/2021 15:18

This situation reminds me of my aunty’s divorce.

She married him when she was quite vulnerable & he made her life hell - belittled her, very controlling, couldn’t be arsed with a job but spent all her money. Got her in so much debt she couldn’t afford to leave him. Put her down at every opportunity. Fell out with all her family & friends.

After 20 odd years she had an affair & left him for the other man as soon as she was in a financial position to do so. Purely on paper she was ‘in the wrong’ for the affair, but if you knew her at the time she was a broken woman badly in need of some love & kindness.

Anyway, the ex followed a similar path to AE - spreading defamatory rumours/lies about her, bombarding her & her family with aggressive messages, he even threatened to kill their dog. He wanted to ruin her, it was relentless for several years and he even harassed one of our dying relatives. Her boys were young teens at the time & one has never spoken to her again after their dad turned them against her. She has quite a low contact relationship with the other (his choice). This has broken her heart for many years, she still can’t talk about it without crying.

So, fucking judge away. Anyone who thinks my aunty should have stayed with her nasty fucker of an ex for the sake of ‘seeing the kids through to 18’ or ‘because falling out of love isn’t a reason’ have never been as broken and desperate as she was.

She’s still with the OM by the way, happily married now for 10 years.

Fluffybeebee · 16/11/2021 16:15

So I'm guessing here. But I think there is a prenup in place judging by these cryptic tweets. She says she would get a quarter of what he would for the house.

Alice Evans on Lorraine
Alice Evans on Lorraine
BruiserWoods · 16/11/2021 17:02

If she is really broke then she should agree to a divorce ASAP.

Worst case scenario they move to a slightly smaller (but still far nicer than most people's) house.

If i were her id tell her agent to start putting her forward for "character parts", and corrupt politician, judge, matriarchs, gangster, maffia boss! Capitalise on the fact that she's not coming across sweet and innocent.

Bluntness100 · 16/11/2021 19:16

She’s really spilling it on social media today. Yes she’s a prenup and he is going for full custody of both kids stating she’s an unfit parent and is committing parental alientation against him.

I think she’s going to find it hard to argue she’s not, she’s even posted previously how she was breaking the original joint custody agreement, how she uses her eldest to talk her down, keeps posting about how he’s abandoned the kids and even today has just posted that all though she accepts the kids need a relationship with him she doesn’t believe they should have one now as he has a girlfriend.

But yeah, he’s now going for full custody, claiming she’s unfit and she’s committing parental alienation. He also wants her to mov out and him to stay in the family home with the children.

I have to say, she’s provided them with all the evidence they need to win every single bit of it.

And she just keeps on providing them with the evidence. Every single day she proves to them she’s right.

I don’t think she stands a chance unless she stops.

WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 16/11/2021 19:24

At least she has strong morals against cheating on people...

Alice Evans on Lorraine
Alice Evans on Lorraine
TheLikesofMe · 16/11/2021 19:30

She is the most foolish of women. I would hate any ex of mine to be behaving like this and I certainly wouldn't want to take up with anyone who I knew had behaved like this.

Anyone would think he had behaved like an absolute devil, He's left because he doesn't want to be with her and taken up with someone else. It's bleedin' commonplace!

I would be amazed if this possessive, nasty, jealous bitter anger is being displayed for the first time. No wonder he left. Imagine if she was a man carrying on like this.

Get some dignity, Alice. Stop roaring.

friendlycat · 16/11/2021 19:33

Yes it does make you wonder how much of her true colours are just being shown far and wide for all to see.

She really is behaving in a very foolish manner indeed.

Bluntness100 · 16/11/2021 19:43

I feel really sorry for her, she’s loosing everything. Literally. She’s loosing custody of her kids, she will loose her home, everything, that’s what’s happeming to her, she’s on there loosing it all because of her behaviour and there’s a bunch of people egging her on.

Pretending she’s some form of icon for cheated on women, so they can grubbily get the details and claim they are mates with a celeb.

It’s just one of the cruelest things I’ve ever seen. They are literally watching her loose it all and shouting you go girl. It’s sick.

whenthedoveslie · 16/11/2021 19:48

I feel really sorry for her, she’s loosing everything. Literally. She’s loosing custody of her kids, she will loose her home, everything, that’s what’s happeming to her, she’s on there loosing it all because of her behaviour and there’s a bunch of people egging her on.

Pretending she’s some form of icon for cheated on women, so they can grubbily get the details and claim they are mates with a celeb.

It’s just one of the cruelest things I’ve ever seen. They are literally watching her loose it all and shouting you go girl. It’s sick.

Ehh, yet here you all are with your commentary and screen shots. Blunt, It is lose btw.

TheLikesofMe · 16/11/2021 20:37

It is hard to stop watching her though through splayed fingers but those who actively cheer her on are quite naughty because they are prodding the bear to make it dance.

She has turned her life into a soap opera but instead of looking like an Avenging Fury she is, alas, looking more like a Deranged Nincompoop.

Cocolapew · 16/11/2021 20:52

We aren't communicating directly with her though, telling her what she should do and say. Ffs what does Debbie from Blackpool know about Californian law? But still they are there telling her what she'll get and what will happen.

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 16/11/2021 21:10

@TheLikesofMe This is how I feel. I've just gone & looked at her twitter feed - even whilst I feel distinctly queasy about doing so. She does genuinely seem to be getting worse, not better. Anyone who disagrees with her is obviously 'the instagram acrobat ho' with a sockpuppet account, whilst the cheerleaders are her new besties. It is genuinely upsetting that she doesn't have anyone close enough to her to say 'just put your phone down'.

@pinkspecs I'm not in any way ashamed to have escaped a violent coercive relationship. If my children want to know more, I will be honest with them. What I won't do, would NEVER do, is post such vitriolic bile that I have to delete it once I've sobered up so that I can pretend I never behaved in such a way. AE needs help, serious help. Not people making excuses or goading her into ever worse behaviour.

MyDogLovesBiscuits · 16/11/2021 21:12

Totally agree with LemonTT