Alice Evans on Lorraine

[Creamcrackersandricecakes]

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

ValerieCupcake, of course she was well within her rights to end an engagement and leave her long term partner. Just as Ioan Gruffud is well within his rights to end his marriage.

I'm guessing Alice Evans' former fiance didn't take to social media after the break up denouncing her as an unfaithful 'ho' though or stalk Ioan Gruffud online and contact his employer demanding his sacking.

and Gloria 😂

Last night I fell down the rabbit hole of looking at Alice’s media on twitter. She’s a prolific tweeter and you can pretty much chart their relationship. I think I’ve changed my position somewhat on what’s occuring.

From what I can see she was very in love with loan. And there is truth it seems in what she was saying, she was a “smug married” and thought this was for life. She thought he loved her as much as she loved him, and I think he did.

However about three years ago it started to break down. Now that could have been enabled by his filming harrow and the prolonged distance between them, but it seems the more distant he got, the more she got demanding and controlling and tried to pull him back, and it was a vicious downward spiral.

Alice was gorgeous in her day, plus confident and slightly wild. If that’s what loan finds attractive, then bianca is not for the long term, she’s just a sweet diversion, she really isn’t a patch on what Alice was. Alice is focusing on the wrong issue, this isn’t about bianca. I’m not remotely convinced this was an affair.

I think their relationship just broke down, possibly also due to distance, and then Alice becoming demanding, controlling and clinging, which made it worse.

And now it’s a mess. There is no way back.

@Bluntness100

Last night I fell down the rabbit hole of looking at Alice’s media on twitter. She’s a prolific tweeter and you can pretty much chart their relationship. I think I’ve changed my position somewhat on what’s occuring.

From what I can see she was very in love with loan. And there is truth it seems in what she was saying, she was a “smug married” and thought this was for life. She thought he loved her as much as she loved him, and I think he did.

However about three years ago it started to break down. Now that could have been enabled by his filming harrow and the prolonged distance between them, but it seems the more distant he got, the more she got demanding and controlling and tried to pull him back, and it was a vicious downward spiral.

Alice was gorgeous in her day, plus confident and slightly wild. If that’s what loan finds attractive, then bianca is not for the long term, she’s just a sweet diversion, she really isn’t a patch on what Alice was. Alice is focusing on the wrong issue, this isn’t about bianca. I’m not remotely convinced this was an affair.

I think their relationship just broke down, possibly also due to distance, and then Alice becoming demanding, controlling and clinging, which made it worse.

And now it’s a mess. There is no way back.

I think we all change our type after children and / or as we age. How many of us have gravitated towards bad boys in our younger days ( and even married them hoping to tame them) and now can't think of anything worse. Alice may have been the equivalent of Ioans bad boy. Maybe Bianca is exactly what he needs now.

I do feel so much sympathy for her. I've looked back through her insta too and it's clear there was so much real love there, and not just from her. Even in some of the pics she posted of him, you can see the fondness in the way he's looking back at her.

I'm sure we all know how it feels when you just absolutely cannot believe what's happened or that the person you love and trust most in the world can have switched like this and now doesn't even want to speak to you. After 20+ years it must make you feel like you're going completely mad with the disbelief, and AE and IG have been through a lot together through the years - Weinstein, infertility, IVF etc.

It's just what she's doing now is so destructive. She is focusing all her efforts on hurting and ruining him, and Bianca, when she should be looking after herself and trying to guide her girls through it all too.

I really hope that someday soon she wakes up and realises it's useless and she's had enough of spending all her thoughts on him. I really hope she finds some happiness going forward.

I think everyone has sympathy for her it must be heartbreaking, but I dont think it was quite out of the blue as she, now, likes to make out. I left my ex and he was devastated and told everyone it wasn't expected, except it was because we had talked about his behaviour and the impact it was having.
Alice needs to stop lying and making stuff up too, just because she deletes them again doesn't make it ok.

Agree @Cocolapew, and tbh even if it was completely out of the blue it has now been nearly a year since they officially separated, so it's very prolonged behaviour from her now. If anything she seems to be getting worse as time goes on.

Alice needs to stop lying and making stuff up too, just because she deletes them again doesn't make it ok.

And she absolutely is straight up making things up as well as distorting facts.

Bear in mind there are a lot of deleted tweets.

I think for as exciting, fun etc Alice is there is this other side that’s always been there and can be difficult. There is an interview on YouTube of Ioan discussing how he proposed, worth a watch if anyone is interested.

Obviously none of us know them or exactly what happened but if he is this adulterer then she’s better off without him. I’m just not sure what her end game is, doubt if she does either, but continuing as she is will effect the children and won’t help her move forward.

@WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps

Alice needs to stop lying and making stuff up too, just because she deletes them again doesn't make it ok.

And she absolutely is straight up making things up as well as distorting facts.

This is very true, especially the distortion.

I think she's being a bit self indulgent and cringe for her

@Pinkspecs

"EsmaCannonball

I haven't seen the interview, but I guess we're used to a world where the damage men do is hidden away. There is a pattern of male behaviour here: successful men upgrade their wives to the younger model according to their current status in life. We're told that this is private and personal, but for the discarded wife there's nothing more impersonal to discover that your husband doesn't see your inner life, your personality, your shared history; he just sees you as an ageing body. What Alice Evans is doing is undignified and uncomfortable and possibly unhealthy, but women being dignified and silent sure does benefit men, and not just in the area of relationships. They can pretty much do what they like and be almost guaranteed that women will either not talk about it or talk about it and be labelled mad or a nasty witch."

I agree with this too.

I’m sorry but I don’t agree she highlighting any gender issue that is relevant to women at large.

Unfortunately almost all people, men and women, will be left by someone they loved and planned to live with. That will cause pain and upheaval. And whilst we should certainly talk more about MH problems it can done without abusing and insulting others. And no MH issue is solved by trying to control the uncontrollable.

AE is a privileged wealthy woman with a sackful advantages in life. She doesn’t have the right to control others even her husband or to be abusive. And she has a responsibility to protect her children from the burden of worry about her.

There is no greater good here. As far as I can see AE’s out pouring has done very little other than justify abuse, challenge the right for people to divorce and objectify herself and other women. Never mind her statement that being single is humiliating for women.

IG silence means I can’t speak to his intentions about anything. I don’t condone or condemn people for getting into a new relationship before divorce. But it’s not something we should try to control as a society. He probably needs to learn that just because you can doesn’t mean you should. If he hasn’t already.

I have consistently said my concern is that ultimately all AE has to say is that divorce is wrong and it’s ok to harangue an ex who has the audacity to leave you. These arguments are not in interests of women. It’s straight out of the Phylis Schlafy outspoken school of regressive thinking.

AE is not a “cause” and she is bad advocate for women. There are way better causes and spokespeople to get behind. Ones that won’t erode our current protections.

Well said, @LemonTT

Yes LemonTT 👏🏼

"I’m sorry but I don’t agree she highlighting any gender issue that is relevant to women at large."

You are welcome to disagree.

Yes Lemon! Perfectly put again.

Most people who are left by their husband have to worry about how to make it financially, setting up a new household, funding that, working, either affording the necessary childcare or being in a job flexible enough to provide that childcare themselves!

I do feel sorry for her because she is behaving so badly and so publicly and she will end up regretting it or paying for it. Her pain is something we have all been through but handled better and some of us with very real money worries to boot.

Well put @LemonTT

@Pinkspecs

"I’m sorry but I don’t agree she highlighting any gender issue that is relevant to women at large."

You are welcome to disagree.

Well what is the issue she is speaking out about apart from herself? Because I don’t see it. All I see is personal attacks and abuse aimed at her ex husband who left her well provided for and still see his children.

I also agree with lemon, what Alice is doing is many things, but it’s certainly not supporting some gender cause by any stretch of the imagination.

I hope people don’t think she is a spokesperson for women in general as she is behaving so appallingly and in such a regressive way. Her attitude to marriage and “ownership” of the spouse for life is so unhealthy and I had hoped it was no longer the prevailing attitude. Seeing others posting on here indicates that many people share her antiquated views.

Fuck me she needs help. So many appearing to enjoy this debacle under the guise of 'calling out' her terrible behaviour.

@BruiserWoods

Most people who are left by their husband have to worry about how to make it financially, setting up a new household, funding that, working, either affording the necessary childcare or being in a job flexible enough to provide that childcare themselves!

I do feel sorry for her because she is behaving so badly and so publicly and she will end up regretting it or paying for it. Her pain is something we have all been through but handled better and some of us with very real money worries to boot.

Yep. I was left penniless, on the verge of homelessness, with PTSD. I still had to get up every morning to deal with my DC, whilst packing up our old life and having to kiss goodbye to my career in order to give the children stability. It was hell. But I had to do it, and not slag off my ex endlessly because the DC were so much more important.

I'm just as guilty as the other rubberneckers on here tbh because I just can't stop watching this car crash. AE does not speak for me or pretty much any other woman when her spiteful bile is just a constant stream of drunken 'ME ME ME' ranting. She has made the choices she has made, and she's not coming out of this well. I also think there are very few people who are genuinely on her side, they just want to see if they can provoke her into saying ever more controversial things for a few more column inches. They are feeding this narrative.

"Well what is the issue she is speaking out about apart from herself? Because I don’t see it. All I see is personal attacks and abuse aimed at her ex husband who left her well provided for and still see his children."

'Herself' being a female who has always tweeted about her life, infact she could be called a 'serial tweeter.' So why should she have to shut up now when she's hurting?
Because you don't like it?
Because it's not the thing you would do?
Because in society it's viewed that she should just keep quiet.. move on?
She's quite obviously hurting, anyone with half a brain can see that.

I dont understand how you see it so black and white, that she's the baddy and he's the goody it's obviously not the case simply going from his post that him and his new girlfriend put up with the caption which was pretty brutal to say the least.

I can't imagine doing that to my husband of 10 years if we split up let alone 20.
I think it says alot about him to be honest.
I see things differently to you through life experience.
I know things arent black and white, I understand the feelings of being with someone for a long time and how it isn't just a relationship, you grow together you experience much of life together.

I do feel that if I split from my husband I absolutely would not be getting a new partner until things were ironed out between us, especially if he was heart broken.
I have never felt like this in previous relationships because I wasn't with them so long.
But after a decade I think we would have enough respect and knowledge to understand we need to iron out any issues between each other before we move on and add other people in to our lives where our kids are concerned.

She has had the rug pulled out from underneath her.
He's dating someone 20 years younger.
He's flaunting it.
All the while knowing how much she hurts.
A year isn't long after a break up when you have kids with someone you have been with for 20 years.
Who is anyone to say that she should just be over it.
He knows she's a serial tweeter after being married to her for years, it's not for everyone, it's not for me personally but I wouldn't judge anyone for it, because I understand people are all different, they view/use social media differently to how I do.

We do have difference of opinion @LemonTT and thats ok.

@Bluntness100

Last night I fell down the rabbit hole of looking at Alice’s media on twitter. She’s a prolific tweeter and you can pretty much chart their relationship. I think I’ve changed my position somewhat on what’s occuring.

From what I can see she was very in love with loan. And there is truth it seems in what she was saying, she was a “smug married” and thought this was for life. She thought he loved her as much as she loved him, and I think he did.

However about three years ago it started to break down. Now that could have been enabled by his filming harrow and the prolonged distance between them, but it seems the more distant he got, the more she got demanding and controlling and tried to pull him back, and it was a vicious downward spiral.

Alice was gorgeous in her day, plus confident and slightly wild. If that’s what loan finds attractive, then bianca is not for the long term, she’s just a sweet diversion, she really isn’t a patch on what Alice was. Alice is focusing on the wrong issue, this isn’t about bianca. I’m not remotely convinced this was an affair.

I think their relationship just broke down, possibly also due to distance, and then Alice becoming demanding, controlling and clinging, which made it worse.

And now it’s a mess. There is no way back.

Plus she is older, menopausal, quite a bit heavier- not the arm candy an actor thinks he needs. I can sympathize with her panic over being middle-aged and alone and unemployable in a community that prizes youth and beauty.

She needs to focus on salvaging her ability to somehow earn a living; it won't do her self-esteem any good to live on handouts the next 30 years.