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Husband and work

130 replies

Werk · 10/11/2021 18:27

I need perspective here.

Like many families we have the set up that my husband is the breadwinner and I am the part time worker.

my husband is a workaholic.

He does nothing else during the week. He does nothing with me or the DC. Monday to Friday all of our lives revolve around his job. He sees us for half an hour in the morning and then scuttles off to his office (he is still mainly working from home). He doesn't even tell me if he is joining us for dinner, even though he is upstairs (no one is allowed to interrupt him). I often get messages telling me not to bring the DC straight home from school as he has an important call that must not be disturbed. This is ok when the weather is nice but not so good now.

He seems to have created this life that his job is the centre and we all have to bow down to the work god.

We never really had a discussion about this. When I had my eldest I was all set to go back to work FT and hire a nanny. DH was really against this. I also had "the fear" about going back to work after maternity leave (that DH refused to share, it was new back then) and I think he saw that weakness to convince me to ask for PT hours instead. I distinctly remember suggesting that rather than me working 3 days we should both do 4. He said it would be impossible for him and never asked his employer. So, I ended up going back PT.
It basically ended my career (solicitor) and I ended up leaving and taking a job with my local authority - it is local, not highly paid but flexible and I get a decent pension. I had a second child.
I get to take and collect the DC from school each day. TBH the job has been perfect whilst having young children. However, there isn't much in the way of progression and I am a bit fed up of my job. I have been there 6 years.

I have been looking around for new jobs, nothing part time ever seems to be advertised and recruiters aren't interested in part time. I have had a couple of interviews and I was offered one role but it would have meant leaving the DC at breakfast club at 7.30am and collecting them at 6.30pm 5 days a week. I know other people do it but I think it will be a big adjustment, especially for my youngest.

In the meantime, my husband has excelled in his career and has massively increased his pay. We have bought a new house and increased expenditure as a result.

When we discussed me taking the job with a view to perhaps asking for part time in a few months and I again suggested that we both ask for 4 days - this seems fairest to me and also would not impact our finances. DC would only then need to have long childcare days 3 days a week.

He refuses to ask for part time.
He says that he would rather just quit and be a SAHP (which would be disastrous financially as we need his higher income).
He seems keen to quit. I find it a little laughable as he never cooks or cleans and rarely manages to empty the washing machine on the same day he loads it.

On the one hand I think it would be good for him to spend more time with the DC but then on the other I don't think it has to be all or nothing. He seems to think he has to work in this extreme way or not at all.

The irony is he thinks me working part time is perfectly acceptable.

Am I being unreasonable here? He makes me feel that I am.

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 10/11/2021 18:29

So he gets to quit and be a SAHP when the hard work of babies and toddlers is just about done? He is bluffing. Say yes and see what he says.

Hunderland · 10/11/2021 18:31

He's bluffing about quitting - he'll never do it. Your kids will be fine in childcare for a bit. Do this for yourself.

Hunderland · 10/11/2021 18:31

Ha! X post Grin

Sparklfairy · 10/11/2021 18:32

Yep totally bluffing. Have you suggested that he ask for four slightly longer days to keep his full time hours?

thisplaceisweird · 10/11/2021 18:33

Time to put yourself first!

Buzzer3555 · 10/11/2021 18:33

I agree with pp. He is bluffing.

Udouhun · 10/11/2021 18:33

Why can't you swap? You do five days as a solicitor and he stays at home.

Flurbegurb · 10/11/2021 18:34

Fuck that. If his call is that important he needs to leave the house.

Sounds so unbalanced.

mrsfixit · 10/11/2021 18:34

He’s got no intention of becoming a SAHP. He knows full well that your lives are set up now to rely in his income. He wants you to feel guilty for your refusal to give up your job and become a SAHM, I’d he’s calling your bluff - “Oh if only I could have the chance you have to SAH.” Yeah right..

MrsBertBibby · 10/11/2021 18:36

Yanbu, obviously, but what kind of law did you do? There's a recruitment crisis in some areas, jobs are plentiful.

Lucyccfc68 · 10/11/2021 18:38

Next time he tells you not to come home with the kids after school, due to an important call, seriously, just tell him to f**k off. If he doesn’t tell you he is joining the family for tea, don’t cook him anything.

Better still, get yourself back into work full time and divorce him - what a bloody idiot he is.

FinallyHere · 10/11/2021 18:39

Get him to take three weeks holiday and try out as SAHP. See how he does, then decide.

mrsfixit · 10/11/2021 18:40

I would tell him you’re delighted he feels it’s now time for him to give up his job and become the SAHP. However, just so he’s sure, you have arranged a trial week for him - so he can explore his capacity in this lifestyle he so desires. To this end, you are taking a mini break (abroad) and you wish him all the best.

HikingforScenery · 10/11/2021 18:49

I think you should put your children in breakfast club and take the job. I don’t think he should be forced to go part time if it won’t work with his career.

I can’t believe you followed the of not coming home, etc. Stuff that

Werk · 10/11/2021 18:52

@Sparklfairy

Yep totally bluffing. Have you suggested that he ask for four slightly longer days to keep his full time hours?
He doesn't really have set hours. I am sure his contract will have something like 9-5pm or whatever business needs blah blah - he works 8am - 7/8pm most days, sometimes later. I mean, I am contracted for 24hrs but often work more because that's what is needed but I do get one day off a week. If he went down to 0.8FTE he would have to be strict in saying no to meetings that are outside his hours and that's what he doesn't want to do because it is career limiting (but I have to do it all the time!).

I am worried if I call his bluff he will never go back to work. I mean, DC are at school who wouldn't want to not work and just do the school run?

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Werk · 10/11/2021 18:53

@FinallyHere

Get him to take three weeks holiday and try out as SAHP. See how he does, then decide.
I suggested he take 4 weeks parental leave - sent him all the info but he just said his work wouldn't allow it. I mean, they have to Confused
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DGFB · 10/11/2021 18:54

He is bluffing, he’s just trying to shut you up.
I could cope with all the above apart from him telling you not to disturb him, not to bring the kids home and not telling you about dinner.
I’d tell him to F off back to the office. I’d be so furious.
If you can’t hear to leave your kids in breakfast/after clubs, you’re a bit stuck career-wise

Santastuckincustoms · 10/11/2021 18:58

Why didn't he factor in a home office where he couldn't be disturbed if you're just bought a new house. I'd be turning my phone off and ignoring his entitled messages to make me stand about in the cold waiting for him to finish his call.

girlmom21 · 10/11/2021 19:01

Go back to work full time. Using the before and after school clubs if you need to.

The kids won't be young forever and the longer you're out of the legal world the harder it'll be to get back into it.

Tell DH he needs to pull his weight childcare-wise.

Werk · 10/11/2021 19:06

@Udouhun

Why can't you swap? You do five days as a solicitor and he stays at home.
I wouldn't earn enough to be the sole earner
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Werk · 10/11/2021 19:13

@Santastuckincustoms

Why didn't he factor in a home office where he couldn't be disturbed if you're just bought a new house. I'd be turning my phone off and ignoring his entitled messages to make me stand about in the cold waiting for him to finish his call.
His office is in the loft conversion - I never go up there but he says it is noisy when we get home. We plan to build an office in the garden but not until next spring.
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nancybotwinbloom · 10/11/2021 19:19

Sorry but whilst he may have an important job working from home for fort most of us has made it so that family life is seen and sometimes heard.

Especially outside of normal 9 to 5 hours.

He needs to get a grip.

Get back to work and let him share some of the family load this isn't fair.

I actually have more respect for the males I deal with whom I can see are shouldering the burden so to speak.

I.e I'm working from home, my family are home, it is what it is. If a child runs in I will deal with it in a sensible way.

He should go back to the office if this doesn't suit.

Working from home is just that it's a home not an office and people have had to adjust and adapt. If he wants total peace that's in the office.

Owlmeow · 10/11/2021 19:19

He won't leave his job, he is threatening that to try and control you by floating the fear of struggling financially without his wage. He sounds like he can't be arsed with family life to be honest and has opted out- his job providing him with an excuse to do so. I know you said it would be an adjustment, but if you want to work full time (I would want a decent wage personally so I could be more independent from this arse), don't feel bad about using childcare. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like he will change.

Owlmeow · 10/11/2021 19:20

I often get messages telling me not to bring the DC straight home from school as he has an important call that must not be disturbed. This is ok when the weather is nice but not so good now

I mean, no, this is never okay even when the weather is nice.

WonderfulYou · 10/11/2021 19:22

There is a lot to sort through here.

If you can afford it then I would stay PT whilst your DC are little.
It is hard to juggle working FT and everything else too. There’s an argument that your career is on hold but it don’t be forever.

Lots of families have one parent working full time so it’s fine for him to work full time but on weekends he needs to be more involved with the DC.

Is he working because he enjoys it or because he feels pressure to keep your lifestyle the way it is?

I’d keep the working the same right now and focus on weekends and evenings. He needs to be more involved with the DC if he’s working from home there’s absolutely no excuse but it also makes it harder to switch off so you need this conversation as not only is it not fair on you and your DC but he’ll also end up burning himself out.