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Husband and work

130 replies

Werk · 10/11/2021 18:27

I need perspective here.

Like many families we have the set up that my husband is the breadwinner and I am the part time worker.

my husband is a workaholic.

He does nothing else during the week. He does nothing with me or the DC. Monday to Friday all of our lives revolve around his job. He sees us for half an hour in the morning and then scuttles off to his office (he is still mainly working from home). He doesn't even tell me if he is joining us for dinner, even though he is upstairs (no one is allowed to interrupt him). I often get messages telling me not to bring the DC straight home from school as he has an important call that must not be disturbed. This is ok when the weather is nice but not so good now.

He seems to have created this life that his job is the centre and we all have to bow down to the work god.

We never really had a discussion about this. When I had my eldest I was all set to go back to work FT and hire a nanny. DH was really against this. I also had "the fear" about going back to work after maternity leave (that DH refused to share, it was new back then) and I think he saw that weakness to convince me to ask for PT hours instead. I distinctly remember suggesting that rather than me working 3 days we should both do 4. He said it would be impossible for him and never asked his employer. So, I ended up going back PT.
It basically ended my career (solicitor) and I ended up leaving and taking a job with my local authority - it is local, not highly paid but flexible and I get a decent pension. I had a second child.
I get to take and collect the DC from school each day. TBH the job has been perfect whilst having young children. However, there isn't much in the way of progression and I am a bit fed up of my job. I have been there 6 years.

I have been looking around for new jobs, nothing part time ever seems to be advertised and recruiters aren't interested in part time. I have had a couple of interviews and I was offered one role but it would have meant leaving the DC at breakfast club at 7.30am and collecting them at 6.30pm 5 days a week. I know other people do it but I think it will be a big adjustment, especially for my youngest.

In the meantime, my husband has excelled in his career and has massively increased his pay. We have bought a new house and increased expenditure as a result.

When we discussed me taking the job with a view to perhaps asking for part time in a few months and I again suggested that we both ask for 4 days - this seems fairest to me and also would not impact our finances. DC would only then need to have long childcare days 3 days a week.

He refuses to ask for part time.
He says that he would rather just quit and be a SAHP (which would be disastrous financially as we need his higher income).
He seems keen to quit. I find it a little laughable as he never cooks or cleans and rarely manages to empty the washing machine on the same day he loads it.

On the one hand I think it would be good for him to spend more time with the DC but then on the other I don't think it has to be all or nothing. He seems to think he has to work in this extreme way or not at all.

The irony is he thinks me working part time is perfectly acceptable.

Am I being unreasonable here? He makes me feel that I am.

OP posts:
beebeebe · 10/11/2021 19:25

A few things to say to him:

  • go back to the office or accept that the children are at home after school. It is their house too and they have the right to stay there.
  • say you are going back full time and higher the nanny so you don't feel guilty of keeping them in after school club.
  • build up your confidence and call him on his bluff
Wish you all the best!
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/11/2021 19:25

I know this isn’t the point but have you tried the civil service? Some great flexible jobs for lawyers and part time is fine. It’d probably pay better than local authority and be more interesting.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/11/2021 19:25

Agree with pps about your H but wanted to say that about civil service!

Werk · 10/11/2021 19:30

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

I know this isn’t the point but have you tried the civil service? Some great flexible jobs for lawyers and part time is fine. It’d probably pay better than local authority and be more interesting.
I tried the civil service a couple of years ago but wasn't successful - it was a tough interview! I am not exactly sure what they were looking for and the experience put me off.
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Werk · 10/11/2021 19:33

He complains all of the time about work. He is a martyr. Every suggestion I make to lighten his load is refused.
Except me doing everything around the house - he has welcomed this!
He won't take time off - parental leave etc. He won't reduce his hours. He won't look for another job.
It is work like this or quit altogether.

He is around all weekend and dotes on the DC then. He is a complete Disney dad at the weekend.

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Merryoldgoat · 10/11/2021 19:37

My DH has a fairly senior role. He works from home at the moment.

He does school runs, cooks, etc

He has important meetings all bloody day.

He’s been interrupted by naked children, doorbells, a wife needing access to her underwear drawer.

He thinks it’s funny.

Your husband is a twat but I suspect you already know what.

Blahdyblahbla · 10/11/2021 19:39

He's an absolute dick for banishing you from the house, I'd just ignore that.
Unfortunately though he's possibly right about not being able to go part time. In my DH's company part time is unheard of unless someone is returning from work after cancer or something terrible, and even then they are given a full time workload.
You've built your life around his income, if I were you I'd use some of that money to buy in some help, and go full time if that's what you want. You can then reassess your marriage and your options.

Wheresmywoolyjumpers · 10/11/2021 19:39

FFS - unless he has the nuclear buttons there is no job that cannot be managed better than this. He may want to work full time and not decrease - that is is right - but he is either using this as an excuse to be away from the work of family life, or he cannot manage his job and you are suffering the fall out. Either way his behaviour is ridiculous and needs to stop. The not bringing kids home from school is completely out of order. I hope you don't go along with the CF'kery

Aquamarine1029 · 10/11/2021 19:42

Stop pandering to this selfish idiot. Don't bring the children home because of a call? I really hope you haven't entertained this nonsense.

cloudyrain · 10/11/2021 19:43

I was a lot like your DH before COVID, workaholic in the office before 8 every day and rarely left before 6 and was always doing more work in the evenings. Had already had 1 'burn out/medical issue' when I took some time out, but ended up back where I was and just as bad.
I didn't think it was possible to change, thought the company needed me, thought it was my personality, and I seemed to thrive on being busy and needed. I rarely took holiday and whilst when my DC were at school I did manage to make most events, that just meant I worked late into the night or at the weekend.
When COVID hit most of the company/team were furloughed or made redundant. I kept going, then the company were completely shit to me and it made me stop and take stock.
It took a while and a lot of soul searching and another health scare to step back and rejoin my family.

Owlmeow · 10/11/2021 19:43

@Werk

He complains all of the time about work. He is a martyr. Every suggestion I make to lighten his load is refused. Except me doing everything around the house - he has welcomed this! He won't take time off - parental leave etc. He won't reduce his hours. He won't look for another job. It is work like this or quit altogether.

He is around all weekend and dotes on the DC then. He is a complete Disney dad at the weekend.

He doesn't want things to change, he is quite happy for whatever reason working as he is, and again the threats of put up with me option out of family life and doing as I please or we will be skint is horrible.
YellowandGreenToBeSeen · 10/11/2021 19:45

I’m regularly in Teams meetings with extremely senior members of a global company, one that’s a household name across the entire planet.

I’ve seen naked children, dogs barking and jumping, people nipping off to answer the door.

Your husbands job is not the problem, your husband is.

Wotsitsits · 10/11/2021 19:49

This all just seems so extreme.

Wotsitsits · 10/11/2021 19:50

Posted too soon!

It's extreme, you are looking for a job and DH reacts by saying he'll quit work completely..!!

When can you sit down and have an actual conversation?

It sounds like you haven't had a proper adult conversation for years.

Wotsitsits · 10/11/2021 19:51

You plural! Both of you together Blush

Chippymunks · 10/11/2021 19:52

Stop asking him to go part time, he won’t and he won’t quit either.
Ignore any requests not to go home or keep the DC quiet and suggest he rents an office when he next does this.
Get the job you want, full time/ part time and then pay for help for money from his very important job.

FlorenceWintle · 10/11/2021 19:53

Men can’t work part-time. It’ll make their dicks shrivel up and fall off.

A580Hojas · 10/11/2021 19:54

What an absolute arsehole he sounds. How can you even like him?

DespairingHomeowner · 10/11/2021 20:01

@Chippymunks

Stop asking him to go part time, he won’t and he won’t quit either. Ignore any requests not to go home or keep the DC quiet and suggest he rents an office when he next does this. Get the job you want, full time/ part time and then pay for help for money from his very important job.
^ this.

I can (kind of) see both sides. Asking you not to come home is ridiculous (although would be helpful if kids could stay out of working rooms)

I find it a bit odd when people suggest both parents going PT: in my field, in 20 years, I’ve never met a man who does PT, although it’s common for mums to do 4 days. I’m not saying that’s right (it’s not) but I can understand that it’s unheard of in a lot of places. I would never be able to ask for PT in my role

I think going FT then asking for PT later seems like a good solution

mbosnz · 10/11/2021 20:02

Um, he might be working from home, but this is your home. Your family, in your family home, takes precedence. If he doesn't like it, he can do the other thing. He can be the one that sits out in the cold, not his wife and children, after a long hard day at school.

RubyFakeLips · 10/11/2021 20:09

Is it possible for him to go back to the office?

I don’t think he will quit his job, and when he suggests this what are his solutions regarding the financial problems it would cause?

First step is stop with the pandering. Be very clear, the family does not revolve around his job and he can put up or shut up about it. Bring kids home, arrange activities which require his presence. Tell him if he doesn’t say he will be joining you for dinner in the morning you won’t cook for him and follow through. If he fails to appear after telling you he will join for dinner, I’d refuse to cook the next night. I would probably insist he cooks for the family several nights a week, arrange online food deliveries while you are on the school run and all sort of other petty shit, but that may not be great advice.

Fundamentally start changing the culture of your home, consider extending the childcare for the kids so you feel they are adapted and then do what you need to do for yourself.

GeorgeTheFirst · 10/11/2021 20:16

He needs to use headphones, not come the Great I Am whenever he wants to impose himself on you all. If I can hold a courtroom on Teams with the cleaner hoovering outside my study door I'm damn sure he can manage a meeting with kids on another floor. He's an idiot and this is about control.

BoredZelda · 10/11/2021 20:16

Any person who tells me I cannot bring my children to their own house for any reason, would no longer be living in that house with me.

BoredZelda · 10/11/2021 20:19

If I can hold a courtroom on Teams with the cleaner hoovering outside my study door I'm damn sure he can manage a meeting with kids on another floor.

Indeed. Just as, of the New Zealand Prime minister can do a live feed that’s interrupted by her 3 year old, the OP can cope with having child in the house. www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-59230846

HestersSamplerofCarrots · 10/11/2021 20:30

Ah. Another one of these husbands.

They appear here with depressing regularity.

YANBU.

He’s behaving like an entitled arse. Only you know whether you have a hope in hell of getting through to him, or if he’s worth the bother of trying.

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