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Teacher filmed attacking her horse

771 replies

GrabbyAbbie · 09/11/2021 16:37

Just seen the footage of a woman attacking a horse after a "drag hunt"
She is a primary school teacher and a member of the pony club.
Aibu to think she should lose her job over this?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/11/09/foxhunter-filmed-slapping-and-kicking-horse-is-primary-school-teacher-15567946/amp/

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WildExcuses · 11/11/2021 07:55

I can’t imagine how a person provoking her could have made her abuse the horse who didn’t provoke her. Confused

treguffin · 11/11/2021 07:55

Of course it's been disproportionate. It's always women that get this too, like the poor woman whose dog got loose and killed the seal. Not the same thing obviously, as accidental but I remember people on here going absolutely ballistic about her. Don't remember anything like this with men involved and yet I'd imagine men are a far higher proportion of animal abusers.

treguffin · 11/11/2021 07:57

@WildExcuses

I can’t imagine how a person provoking her could have made her abuse the horse who didn’t provoke her. Confused
You can't imagine losing your temper after being provoked? Well done you, you win at life.
Derbee · 11/11/2021 07:58

@treguffin you get more and more ridiculous with each post. That stupid woman who let her dog kill that poor seal had ignored ALL of the signs asking dog walkers to keep their dogs on leads because of the seal. She arrogantly ignored it all, and that poor seal was mauled to death by her out of control dog. Not “poor woman”.

Subbaxeo · 11/11/2021 07:59

@treguffin - they’re separate things. Animal abuse is vile. Issuing death threats to people whatever they have done is vile. Your post reads as if her behaviour should be excused because she’s received death threats. People get provoked and lose their temper over lots of things-it doesn’t mean they start kicking and punching creatures under their care. Vile behaviour and she should be prosecuted. I wouldn’t want someone like that around my children. The people issuing threats should also be prosecuted if they can be found.

Bluntness100 · 11/11/2021 08:00

How the hell is it the sabs fault? No one could incite me to start punching a pony on the head,

I’ve read some crazy ways to justify this and make it not the woman’s fault on here, but that’s a new low.

BertramLacey · 11/11/2021 08:02

Of course the sabs will have provoked her

And? They may or may not. And you can think they provoked her and condemn her behaviour too, but I'm not really sure how it's relevant. My experience of hunt sabs is mixed. I've known them protest at hunter trials which always seems a bit odd because although they are connected to the hunt, it's one of the few things hunts do that doesn't see them killing things.

But whatever my encounters with sabs, or with anyone else provocative, I've never punched my horse. Told him off, yes. When I first got him some things he did were quite dangerous. Punched him? No.

treguffin · 11/11/2021 08:03

@Bluntness100

How the hell is it the sabs fault? No one could incite me to start punching a pony on the head,

I’ve read some crazy ways to justify this and make it not the woman’s fault on here, but that’s a new low.

Well I have no idea what actually happened of course, but I think anyone who has seen the worst of hunt sabs in action would come to the same conclusion as me. Obviously you haven't, so lucky you. I can't reiterate enough how much I disagree with her actions but I think the reaction to it from social media is completely over the top and slightly insane.
dropitlikeitsloth · 11/11/2021 08:05

@marktayloruk

I'd rather like to treat her the way she treated that horse However, it doesn't affect her ability to teach.
Nah, witches were innocent women.
treguffin · 11/11/2021 08:05

I've also never kicked and punched my horse when provoked by sabs - I'm clealry not saying what the mumsnet hive mind requires of me making myself clear.

Derbee · 11/11/2021 08:06

@treguffin must be a friend of this evil woman. There’s no other reason someone would be so intent on minimising, and trying to blame the horse/the sabs/the context/ etc etc basically everything or everyone apart from the person punching the horse. It’s quite extraordinary

Waxonwaxoff0 · 11/11/2021 08:07

@treguffin

Of course the sabs will have provoked her - they will have been delighted to get this footage! I'd imagine she was desperate to get the horses loaded and out of there. The sabs were videoing her kids, not her. She was absolutely stupid to do what she did and it was very nasty of her to take it out on the pony, the kick was particularly vicious. Before you all say I'm excusing an animal abuser I'm absolutely not, but hunt sabs can be proper dicks and have no qualms in upsetting or hurting horses if they think they'll get good footage out of it.
So what if they provoked her! SO BLOODY WHAT. You do not react to provocation by being violent to an animal.

You know who else uses the "provoked" excuse? Men who hit their wives.

treguffin · 11/11/2021 08:09

[quote Derbee]@treguffin must be a friend of this evil woman. There’s no other reason someone would be so intent on minimising, and trying to blame the horse/the sabs/the context/ etc etc basically everything or everyone apart from the person punching the horse. It’s quite extraordinary[/quote]
What's extraordinary is not being able to even process a different view to your own, so much so that the only way you can get your head round it is to genuinely assume the poster saying things you don't like must be the actual person involved or a friend of hers. Honestly, ask yourself how likely that is.

WildExcuses · 11/11/2021 08:10

You can't imagine losing your temper after being provoked? Well done you, you win at life.

I have never hit a person or animal in my life. I never will because I am an adult who is in control of my temper.

I could slightly understand more if she hit a person if that person provoked her. ( not that that is acceptable) Being provoked by a person and then taking it out on an animal....no.

That’s like saying a man has a bad day at work and comes home and hits his wife.

I think you need to take a look at yourself for trying to justify her actions.

treguffin · 11/11/2021 08:10

So what if they provoked her! SO BLOODY WHAT. You do not react to provocation by being violent to an animal

I totally agree with you.

wincarwoo · 11/11/2021 08:11

@treguffin

I've also never kicked and punched my horse when provoked by sabs - I'm clealry not saying what the mumsnet hive mind requires of me making myself clear.
People disagree. It's allowed. It'd be pretty shocking if there wasn't an outcry over this.
treguffin · 11/11/2021 08:11

I have never hit a person or animal in my life. I never will because I am an adult who is in control of my temper

Same here.

dropitlikeitsloth · 11/11/2021 08:11

You know who else uses the "provoked" excuse? Men who hit their wives.

Yes something always provoked my father, we always used to suffer the brunt. No excuse, at all. Provocation as an excuse is just hiding a short temper or an abusive nature.

wincarwoo · 11/11/2021 08:11

@treguffin

I have never hit a person or animal in my life. I never will because I am an adult who is in control of my temper

Same here.

But I will defend people who have eh @treguffin?
treguffin · 11/11/2021 08:12

Outcry yes, death threats and mob hounding, no. Never acceptable.

treguffin · 11/11/2021 08:12

Defending how? I've made it very clear I don't agree with what she did.

dropitlikeitsloth · 11/11/2021 08:13

and of course she has an abusive nature she hounds fixes and watches them being ripped apart for fun.

dropitlikeitsloth · 11/11/2021 08:13

Foxes*

WildExcuses · 11/11/2021 08:15

treguffin

But you need to explain how being provoked by a PERSON makes you not hit an ANIMAL. Hitting the person who provoked you would be more understandable. Hitting an animal, I just don’t get that logic. Please explain.

WildExcuses · 11/11/2021 08:15

*makes you hit an animal