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Teacher filmed attacking her horse

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GrabbyAbbie · 09/11/2021 16:37

Just seen the footage of a woman attacking a horse after a "drag hunt"
She is a primary school teacher and a member of the pony club.
Aibu to think she should lose her job over this?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/11/09/foxhunter-filmed-slapping-and-kicking-horse-is-primary-school-teacher-15567946/amp/

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LakieLady · 10/11/2021 14:20

@Waitrosedarling

The public flogging and ruination of people lives needs to stop.

If people commit a crime it should be dealt with by the law, not by the mob with burning torches.

I do not agree with the way she treated that animal and if she has broke any laws she should be rightly punished BY THE LAW. Not death by social media

The problem with this is that hunt members and supporters are very rarely dealt with by the law, even when there is compelling evidence, including video footage, of them hunting with hounds in breach of the Hunting Act, assaulting sabs and carrying out criminal damage on observers' vehicles.

YT has endless amounts of footage of lawbreaking by hunts, and there have been very few prosecutions.

Lady08 · 10/11/2021 14:21

@grannymrssmith

I am trying to understand something maybe someone would come along and clarify. Why is it animal abuse when a horse is being punched and kicked but not when adult and baby animals are slaughtered, imprisoned in battery cages. Is the latter animal abuse or not?
I agree with this. Sadly as certain animals are generally seen as food and treated as a commodity, their abuse goes unheard.

It’s why I don’t eat meat anymore, there’s a lot wrong with the meat industry, based on the many films I’ve seen over the years.

ThePriceIsNotRight · 10/11/2021 14:24

Arguably, no one should face consequences for anything then, lest they threaten suicide? Hmm

Whether she should face trial by media or not, we all live in a world where the potential for that to happen is high, especially if we’re publicly abusing an animal, or indeed anyone vulnerable.

Personally I don’t feel the slightest bit of sympathy for her. This is a consequence of her own choices. I hope she is charged legally, and I also hope she’s dismissed from her employment. I don’t think anyone capable of such cruelty should be in a position of power over the vulnerable.

Waitrosedarling · 10/11/2021 14:24

@Derbee Caroline Flack was pushed over the edge because of what the media and on line trolls did to her. People can only take so much, every one has a breaking point. If you are happy to contribute to some one taking their own life then I think you really need to get some therapy because there is something wrong with you.

Waitrosedarling · 10/11/2021 14:26

Whether she should face trial by media or not, we all live in a world where the potential for that to happen is high, especially if we’re publicly abusing an animal, or indeed anyone vulnerable

The potential for that to happen is because people like you can't stay away from it. YOU are the trial by media.

julieca · 10/11/2021 14:27

I do not agree by trial with media. But I agree if this wasn't in the media, nothing would have happened. Nothing happens to the many other hunts people who abuse their animals.

ThePriceIsNotRight · 10/11/2021 14:28

If that’s the case, then fair enough. I’m not going to not pass negative comment on an animal abuser because it might hurt their feelings 🤷🏻‍♀️

The outrage towards her is the result of her own actions. What choices she makes as a result of it, are again on her. I’m not inclined to feel at all bad about it.

grannymrssmith · 10/11/2021 14:30

Thank you @lady08 hopefully others on the thread will consider this too.

animalequality.org/news/5-common-practices-in-slaughterhouses-that-you-need-to-know/

www.kinderworld.org/videos/meat-industry/calf-begging-abattoir-worker-not-to-kill/

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Willyoujustbequiet · 10/11/2021 14:44

That video is shocking.

She certainly deserves to lose her job. Someone like that shouldn't be allowed to work with children.

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RunningFromInsanity · 10/11/2021 14:50

Ah yes was only time before someone brings out Caroline Flack as an excuse to never ever criticise or hold someone to account for what they have done.
#bekind is not an excuse for shitty behaviour.

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Waxonwaxoff0 · 10/11/2021 14:56

@FreeBritnee

Let’s take this to it’s ultimate conclusion. She loses her job, her ability to work as a teacher, her home and is a hate figure for evermore. For most people that would make them pretty suicidal. Would her suicide be enough for you all or would you need more?
Honestly I wouldn't really care if an animal abuser committed suicide.
Waxonwaxoff0 · 10/11/2021 14:58

And if you're stupid enough to do something so publicly, knowing full well that anyone can see you and film you, that's on your head.

DixonD · 10/11/2021 14:59

@thereisonlyoneofme

I dont think it is illegal
It is illegal to punch your horse (or any animal for that matter.)
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treguffin · 10/11/2021 14:59

@WildExcuses

Let’s take this to it’s ultimate conclusion. She loses her job, her ability to work as a teacher, her home and is a hate figure for evermore. For most people that would make them pretty suicidal. Would her suicide be enough for you all or would you need more?

I just don’t care. If she kills herself, that’s her choice. She could have just not kicked an punched an innocent animal.

Unbelievable. I think there's something very wrong with people who think like this.
Lady08 · 10/11/2021 15:04

[quote grannymrssmith]Thank you @lady08 hopefully others on the thread will consider this too.

animalequality.org/news/5-common-practices-in-slaughterhouses-that-you-need-to-know/

www.kinderworld.org/videos/meat-industry/calf-begging-abattoir-worker-not-to-kill/[/quote]
I can honestly say the videos I’ve seen have broken my heart.

When I first went vegetarian, I had beef mince in my shopping back, I had looked on Facebook and came across a video a friend saw, from that moment on I stopped eating meat, huge wake-up call me for, my Dad went vegetarian at 60 and he said he’s never felt better, he also did it for ethical reasons, he was very oblivious to a lot of things but when he realised the true horrors animals face, he decided to stop eating it altogether and has never gone back.

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thereisonlyoneofme · 10/11/2021 15:05

If it is illegal why arent there more prosecutions, this goes on all the time in the horse world, think of the times showjumpers are caught whipping their animals. they are not prosecuted as far as I know, - and the dog world is similar . I suppose this time some thing will be done because of the media interest.

WildExcuses · 10/11/2021 15:05

Unbelievable. I think there's something very wrong with people who think like this.

And I think there’s something very wrong with people who invest their time in defending abusers. She’s tough enough to punch and kick a horse....let her cope with what life brings.

ThePriceIsNotRight · 10/11/2021 15:06

@treguffin

Personally I don’t think an inability to sympathize with abusers, or indeed care what they do when the negative consequences of their behavior bite them, is a character flaw.

Each to their own though.

Bluntness100 · 10/11/2021 15:06

No one is suggesting that she should loose her job as punishment, what’s being said is a person who is guilty of animal abuse should not be in a position where they need to be a role model to impressionable children, when it’s likely those children will know what she is and what she’s done. It makes her position untenable. How can she tell a child they can’t kick their dog, or punch their friend, when she herself is on video punching and kicking an animal.

Her behaviour is immoral and there’s a reason that is not conducive to being a teacher.

And can we stop all the suicide talk it’s highly inappropriate and being used as a method to silence people.

treguffin · 10/11/2021 15:08

@WildExcuses

Unbelievable. I think there's something very wrong with people who think like this.

And I think there’s something very wrong with people who invest their time in defending abusers. She’s tough enough to punch and kick a horse....let her cope with what life brings.

And luckily I'm intelligent enough to despise what she did and yet not have to take that so far that I'd feel nothing if a wife and mother killed herself.