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Teacher filmed attacking her horse

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GrabbyAbbie · 09/11/2021 16:37

Just seen the footage of a woman attacking a horse after a "drag hunt"
She is a primary school teacher and a member of the pony club.
Aibu to think she should lose her job over this?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/11/09/foxhunter-filmed-slapping-and-kicking-horse-is-primary-school-teacher-15567946/amp/

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DandyHighwayWoman · 10/11/2021 13:02

@Berkeys

She really should! Violent people shouldn’t be around children or animals. Angry
This

Her abuse of that poor horse is appalling. I wouldn’t want someone with what appears to be uncontrollable rage around my DC. I hope she is dealt with via the law for animal cruelty.

FreeBritnee · 10/11/2021 13:09

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Derbee · 10/11/2021 13:10

It's not up to the parents or the local community. She may resign due to that, but can't be legally sacked for it

It IS up to the parents and the local community. They won’t be happy with her teaching there and her position will become untenable. I never said the parents can legally sack her, but she WILL lose her job at the school. Check back in 6 months and see if she’s working there. I guarantee you she won’t be. She’ll have left, and lost her job (even if it’s through forced resignation from local hatred)

wanttomarryamillionaire · 10/11/2021 13:12

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User527294627 · 10/11/2021 13:17

@wanttomarryamillionaire

Id like to put a bit in her mouth and slap her repeatedly round the face!
Imagine just outing yourself as a pervert and a psychopath like this.
wanttomarryamillionaire · 10/11/2021 13:20

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Shallwegoforawalk · 10/11/2021 13:27

@workshy44

It was obviously appalling but she is going to lose everything over this, perhaps it was a once off loss of control, who knows She will lose her job, just been suspended and she has been kicked out of the pony club which was presumably her social life She will be a complete pariah - can't help but feel pity for her
Nope not one drop of pity here for the evil cow. She deserves everything she gets.
treguffin · 10/11/2021 13:28

@wanttomarryamillionaire

Id like to put a bit in her mouth and slap her repeatedly round the face!
Oh, you're one of THOSE!
treguffin · 10/11/2021 13:29

@Derbee

It's not up to the parents or the local community. She may resign due to that, but can't be legally sacked for it

It IS up to the parents and the local community. They won’t be happy with her teaching there and her position will become untenable. I never said the parents can legally sack her, but she WILL lose her job at the school. Check back in 6 months and see if she’s working there. I guarantee you she won’t be. She’ll have left, and lost her job (even if it’s through forced resignation from local hatred)

You may be right, but if she's not convicted then the school doesn't have any legal right to sack her. Resignation is a different matter.
Derbee · 10/11/2021 13:33

@treguffin end result is an evil bitch with an uncontrolled temper won’t be around small children in a classroom. That’s what matters

Derbee · 10/11/2021 13:34

I do think it’s a bit weird that you’re on all the threads about her, defending her.

Shallwegoforawalk · 10/11/2021 13:41

My money is on her being outraged that she was videoed then making some ridiculous statement about how out of character it was and how sorry she is followed by some sob story of terrible stress she was going through that led her to do this thing she now feels dreadful about because it got recorded. There'll be a bit about her past good deeds with horses and someone will back her up saying she sings sick ponies to sleep and gives them hoof massages and this was temporary insanity caused by Super Big Stress Thing.

Absolutely nails it.
She can try but the video will always be there for everyone to see. Evil.

Turtles25 · 10/11/2021 13:42

It was uncalled for. Think she needs to face the media.

Waitrosedarling · 10/11/2021 13:52

The public flogging and ruination of people lives needs to stop.

If people commit a crime it should be dealt with by the law, not by the mob with burning torches.

I do not agree with the way she treated that animal and if she has broke any laws she should be rightly punished BY THE LAW. Not death by social media

IAAP · 10/11/2021 13:57

@Derbee

It's not up to the parents or the local community. She may resign due to that, but can't be legally sacked for it

It IS up to the parents and the local community. They won’t be happy with her teaching there and her position will become untenable. I never said the parents can legally sack her, but she WILL lose her job at the school. Check back in 6 months and see if she’s working there. I guarantee you she won’t be. She’ll have left, and lost her job (even if it’s through forced resignation from local hatred)

Not true. She can be sacked for a breakdown in trust between the stakeholders making her position untenable.
Bluntness100 · 10/11/2021 14:00

@Waitrosedarling

The public flogging and ruination of people lives needs to stop.

If people commit a crime it should be dealt with by the law, not by the mob with burning torches.

I do not agree with the way she treated that animal and if she has broke any laws she should be rightly punished BY THE LAW. Not death by social media

“If” she has broken any laws? What part of punching a horse on the head and kicking it in thr chest do you feel might possibly just be legal?

Sure she ain’t going to jail for it, she will likely just get a fine. But it is illegal to abuse animals.

FreeBritnee · 10/11/2021 14:08

Let’s take this to it’s ultimate conclusion. She loses her job, her ability to work as a teacher, her home and is a hate figure for evermore. For most people that would make them pretty suicidal. Would her suicide be enough for you all or would you need more?

Bluntness100 · 10/11/2021 14:09

A teacher can be fired for committing a crime, so she’d need to be conviceted, or immoral conduct, and I’m not sure repeatedly punching a horse in the head is considered morally acceptable behaviour to most people, and amongst other reasons. So potentially they have grounds to fire her.

Derbee · 10/11/2021 14:10

@FreeBritnee

Let’s take this to it’s ultimate conclusion. She loses her job, her ability to work as a teacher, her home and is a hate figure for evermore. For most people that would make them pretty suicidal. Would her suicide be enough for you all or would you need more?
Why on earth would people feel bad about whatever action she takes in the aftermath? She’s publicly punched and kicked an animal. She lives with the consequences of her actions (or doesn’t, in your example). She’s not a victim. She’s a perpetrator
Waitrosedarling · 10/11/2021 14:13

@Bluntness100 there is no point in attacking me put your burning torch down.

I am not a legal expert so I am not about to start saying things are illegal when I dont know if they are. I havnt been sat here researching laws on animal cruelty. If she has broken the law then the law deals with it.

This need for people to gather together, seek out her employment is ahorrible trend from twitter. Its 2021 version of putting people in the stocks or a public flogging. Strangers that dont even know the offender unable to rest till the offenders life has been ruined then they go about their day and forget the women that punched a horse in the face. Its just as disgusting as punching that horse in the face.

She should absolutely get punished for doing this - and I suspect she will be banned from having horses again.but how is losing her employment/home/career really helping? Since when did the mob decide what justice was.

I am surprised you take this stance as I thought you worked in some legal capacity and expected you to believe in the law and not mob rule?....( or have I got that wrong?)

FreeBritnee · 10/11/2021 14:15

Why on earth would people feel bad about whatever action she takes in the aftermath? She’s publicly punched and kicked an animal. She lives with the consequences of her actions (or doesn’t, in your example). She’s not a victim. She’s a perpetrator

Wow! I honestly didn’t think I’d actually see that written down.

grannymrssmith · 10/11/2021 14:15

I am trying to understand something maybe someone would come along and clarify. Why is it animal abuse when a horse is being punched and kicked but not when adult and baby animals are slaughtered, imprisoned in battery cages. Is the latter animal abuse or not?

Derbee · 10/11/2021 14:18

@FreeBritnee

Why on earth would people feel bad about whatever action she takes in the aftermath? She’s publicly punched and kicked an animal. She lives with the consequences of her actions (or doesn’t, in your example). She’s not a victim. She’s a perpetrator

Wow! I honestly didn’t think I’d actually see that written down.

Well you’re very ignorant then. People are in relationships where a partner threatens suicide if they leave etc. People’s actions are nobody’s responsibility other than their own. You CANNOT blame others for someone’s suicide. It’s a choice that someone makes for themselves, and those around them feel guilty enough, without people like you implying that suicide can be blamed on anyone other than the person who takes their own life.

But yours is an over emotional and dramatic post , and not remotely relevant to a thread about whether it’s ok for someone to punch and kick an animal.

Waitrosedarling · 10/11/2021 14:19

@FreeBritnee

Why on earth would people feel bad about whatever action she takes in the aftermath? She’s publicly punched and kicked an animal. She lives with the consequences of her actions (or doesn’t, in your example). She’s not a victim. She’s a perpetrator

Wow! I honestly didn’t think I’d actually see that written down.

Yeas, its sickened me too.

2021 the year of mob rule.

WildExcuses · 10/11/2021 14:19

Let’s take this to it’s ultimate conclusion. She loses her job, her ability to work as a teacher, her home and is a hate figure for evermore. For most people that would make them pretty suicidal. Would her suicide be enough for you all or would you need more?

I just don’t care. If she kills herself, that’s her choice. She could have just not kicked an punched an innocent animal.

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