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Teacher filmed attacking her horse

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GrabbyAbbie · 09/11/2021 16:37

Just seen the footage of a woman attacking a horse after a "drag hunt"
She is a primary school teacher and a member of the pony club.
Aibu to think she should lose her job over this?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/11/09/foxhunter-filmed-slapping-and-kicking-horse-is-primary-school-teacher-15567946/amp/

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Sudokuzebra · 09/11/2021 21:20

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MrsWhites · 09/11/2021 21:21

She isn’t an appropriate role model to the children that she teaches and her temperament is obvious for us all to see - for that reason in my opinion she can’t continue to be a teacher.

She should certainly be prosecuted.

But the death threats from the keyboard warriors is entirely unwarranted- we have police and a prosecution service for this purpose.

Fluffycloudland77 · 09/11/2021 21:26

I worked around that area about 21/22 years ago in a rural clinic & was asked early on if I hunted. I’ve never been asked at any other rural locations.

Maybe it’s a bit behind the times up there still I don’t know.

BertramLacey · 09/11/2021 21:28

Yep, and if I'd be the one slapping a defenceless animal about, I'd have deserved it, too.

She deserves censure but it is a shame that we cannot manage this without resorting to misogynist language. Sure, call her cruel. Say she has a temper. Say she's violent and aggressive. You can describe what she did and criticise her for it without using language that is misogynistic.

Lockheart · 09/11/2021 21:28

[quote XelaM]@Lockheart You are absolutely wrong. The RSPCA can and does prosecute!

Anyone can launch a private prosecution and the RSPCA often do![/quote]
Private prosecutions, yes, but they have no power to compel a prosecution through the police. They are a charity with no more powers than any other charity or individual.

XelaM · 09/11/2021 21:28

We own a pony who is stabled at a very large equestrian centre and it most certainly NOT standard practice!!! I have never seen anyone treat a horse this way in the many years my daughter has been riding

Ekofisk · 09/11/2021 21:39

BBC reporting that she has been suspended from her job and RSPCA investigating.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-59228301

Good. That was inexcusable behaviour.

I hope that pony finds a new human that will give it some love and respect.

LowlandLucky · 09/11/2021 21:42

She is vile but i really don't think her family need to have their lives turned upside down. What she done was wrong but trial be SM is wrong. More seem more outraged about this than a animal tearing a child to shreds.

Shitzngiggles · 09/11/2021 21:46

She's a nasty thug, pure and simple. No way should she be allowed to teach ever again.

Poppydoppy18 · 09/11/2021 21:47

@LowlandLucky
From a moral point of view, of course you would be more outraged by this. An animal doesn’t have the conscience to know that it’s bad to hurt a vulnerable being (or anything, for that matter). A human being should.

montysma1 · 09/11/2021 21:49

Because she is clearly unstable with anger issues and a tendency towards violence.
Its kind of relevant.....

Malhao · 09/11/2021 21:51

Mahatma Gandhi acutely observed that "the greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

If she has no compassion for a horse then I doubt she has much you a child

Charmatt · 09/11/2021 21:53

It's not nice to be hunted down and hounded......

....Oh, Sorry, that's what she does for enjoyment, as well as assaulting horses, it seems!

rjacksmiss · 09/11/2021 21:59

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Someone admits complicity in animal abuse yet my post is against your guidelines?
Lady08 · 09/11/2021 22:01

@SW1amp

How does it affect her ability to teach children?
Are you kidding me.

Would you want an animal abuser who clearly has a short temper to be teaching your child?

She’s awful and I hope she loses her job!

PlanktonsComputerWife · 09/11/2021 22:03

Poor beautiful noble creature, too gentle and frightened to retaliate.

Mellowyellow222 · 09/11/2021 22:12

I do think this lady has some very serious character flaws and I certainly would not want her teaching my child.

She has very different values to me, and isn’t afraid to show who she really is. Imagine that lady behind closed doors with small children.

user6367377 · 09/11/2021 22:17

Imagine meat-eaters being outraged at this then tucking into their steak dinner.

DecadentlyDecisive · 09/11/2021 22:20

@Bagelsandbrie

Of course she should lose her job. Teachers are supposed to be kind, empathetic and caring. Anyone who treats an animal like that deserves to be punished harshly and lose their job.
And that's why we have a generation of spoilt, intolerant, vapid and useless kids......
Redglitter · 09/11/2021 22:22

I imagine he has the same tendencies as her. You can’t exactly be an animal lover and marry a fox hunter

Thats very unfair. Even people who aren't great animal lovers can still be disgusted by her actions

CaptainThe95thRifles · 09/11/2021 22:25

To be strictly accurate, she was a volunteer with the Pony Club, not a member thereof - you have to be a young person to be a member of the Pony Club. Volunteers are largely unregulated beyond a DBS check and some very basic first aid / safeguarding / CPD. Obviously some volunteers / instructors have better qualifications, but it's by no means universal. That's an issue with the Pony Club that goes beyond this story.

Regarding this incident, her behaviour was reprehensible and she certainly isn't the sort of person I would want teaching children in any capacity.

HarlanPepper · 09/11/2021 22:25

@user6367377

Imagine meat-eaters being outraged at this then tucking into their steak dinner.
Exactly! How many meat eaters on this thread, I wonder. But industrial farming is not animal cruelty of course, especially when someone else has to do all the horrid bits.
CaptainThe95thRifles · 09/11/2021 22:33

And that's why we have a generation of spoilt, intolerant, vapid and useless kids

Are you suggesting that children would be better served by teachers who punish them randomly in temper? Because that's what this woman did to the horse - the horse was not significantly misbehaving or acting dangerously in any way, so there is no learning experience for the horse here, even if you accepted violence as a training technique (which I don't).

EyesAsGreenAsAFreshPickledToad · 09/11/2021 22:38

@CaptainThe95thRifles

And that's why we have a generation of spoilt, intolerant, vapid and useless kids

Are you suggesting that children would be better served by teachers who punish them randomly in temper? Because that's what this woman did to the horse - the horse was not significantly misbehaving or acting dangerously in any way, so there is no learning experience for the horse here, even if you accepted violence as a training technique (which I don't).

This thread has brought out some strange folk. “Children wouldn’t be so vapid if we had teachers who attack horses”
BertramLacey · 09/11/2021 22:39

Well I've been vegetarian since my early teens and throughout my entire adult life and no, I wouldn't smack a horse around the head.

I don't like the witch hunt elements of this and think the school need to investigate what she did without taking too much notice of the baying mob. Whilst I dislike what she did, I can't help but think many people are now doing exactly what they're criticising this woman for - they are a baying mob and they are hounding her. Let justice be done but put the pitchforks down.