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Read this sex scene from Giles Coren’s failed novel!!!

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KentishTowner · 08/11/2021 00:37

In his latest column in The Times Vile Coren is asserting that there are no successful white male authors any more. Yeah, sure, keep telling yourself that’s why your novel failed so spectacularly and you won The Bad Sex Award, Giles. Then read the actual, totally bizarre sex scene (the bit about the shower head!):

twitter.com/kirstysedgman/status/1454503687460638726?s=21

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Fillybuster · 08/11/2021 08:21

@Jegelskertrolde there is no such language as "Jewish". There's a several thousand year old religion, not a language. That's like saying there's a word in "Muslim". Perhaps you meant Yiddish (a language that developed in Central Europe from approx 10th century onwards)? Or Hebrew, the classical language of the Old Testament? Or maybe Ivrit, the version of modern Hebrew spoken in Israel today? Just because we are discussing bad writing doesn't make this ok.

SoItWas · 08/11/2021 08:22

Also, as to "there are no successful white male authors any more", has he heard of Philip Pullman or G.R.R Martin? Two white male authors off the top of my head, who's books I've bought in recent years/new releases I'm looking forward to (Pullman: The Book of Dust Volume Three, Martin: winds of winter, fire and blood part 2, and more dunk and egg books).

JingleCatJingle · 08/11/2021 08:24

Like Zorro?

DahliaMacNamara · 08/11/2021 08:29

Well, somebody wants to create a buzz and get people talking about their book, don't they?

Trixiefirecracker · 08/11/2021 08:36

Surely it’s just a wind up?!

KentishTowner · 08/11/2021 08:37

No. Not a neighbour. Unlike terror suspect Ali Harber Ali I sadly do not have that pleasure. I do live in the vicinity though and receive frequent updates via Nextdoor about the Coren’s’ missing cat and his Jag being stolen etc. Their children have also been trick or treating to my house (- the son is rather grabby). The Dawn Foster Forever graffiti episode during the summer caused much mirth in the NW10 ends, especially when Giles hired a lookalike to paint over it. My pal lives opposite them and took a photo of the guy whose shorts were slipping down while he knelt down to repaint the wall. That one circulated on a few local Kentish Town WhatsApp groups.

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thepeopleversuswork · 08/11/2021 08:37

So… he undeniably is a cunt and has a vastly inflated sense of his own talent. And that email was totally out of order.

But he is kind of right here. The sub-editors did ruin this by imposing a sort of bland, one size fits all literate standard on this and it does diminish what he wrote.

I would never have sent an email like that and he deserved to have it leaked. But what he is trying to do is to kick back against the assumption that all writing needs to be blandly standardised.

Anyone who has worked as a writer in any context will recognise this.

The sex writing is lamentable but he had a point here…

SuperDup3r · 08/11/2021 08:38

He's just mocking himself here. I think that's obvious

ineedsun · 08/11/2021 08:39

Is it me or has he got an aversion to punctuation?

thepeopleversuswork · 08/11/2021 08:39

Sorry edit fail - that was a reference to the nasty email to Times subs

Deadringer · 08/11/2021 08:39

I haven't read the sex scene because i haven't had breakfast yet, but that article about his review, wow, it's a badly written rant at people who were trying to make something he quote readable. What a plonker.

LadyDanburysHat · 08/11/2021 08:41

Good God! That was ridiculous. And he, and he, and he, If it wasn't about sex I would think it was written by an 8 year old.

And his dick rattled around in her mouth! Ridiculous.

KurtWilde · 08/11/2021 08:43

@Snoopfroggyfrogg

Christ alive. His willy was jumping around like a shower head? Whilst still attached to him?
😂
longwayoff · 08/11/2021 08:47

Oh he's VILE. Haven't read the excerpt, won't be doing so, I'm just referencing everything else I know about him so feel quite justified in making this comment. Ugh.

KentishTowner · 08/11/2021 08:47

Methinks quite a few Coren sock puppets have popped up to insist IT WAS ALL A JOKE! He has form there too: www.google.com/amp/s/www.indy100.com/news/giles-coren-twitter-alternative-account-pavel-pilnik-jonathan-nunn-wife-antisemitism-8703366%3famp

I don’t think his novel was originally meant to be a joke. Satire certainly, but literary fiction and I think he expected it to win The Booker Prize, not the Bad Sex Award. It is convenient to insist it was all a joke now that it’s being dragged and everyone is laughing at him. If it’s a joke, as he intended, is it funny? I think people mocking his bad writing is funny, but the writing itself isn’t really humorous. It’s just lazy e.g. the woman holding the penis and scratching the man’s back with both hands at the same time.

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AlfonsoTheUnrepentant · 08/11/2021 08:49

I shall now think of him (when I am forced to; I would never do so voluntarily) as Giles Zorren.

BonesInTheOcean · 08/11/2021 08:51

i didnt see if anyone had put the actual image up
apologies if duplication

Read this sex scene from Giles Coren’s failed novel!!!
Trixiefirecracker · 08/11/2021 08:52

I’m not a sock puppet, have just read it and never really heard of him but it’s obvious it’s tongue in cheek and @KentishTowner satire is a kind of ‘joke’, it uses humour to ridicule or exaggerate.

deedeemegadoodoo · 08/11/2021 08:56

@Clumsyvolcano

I really, really struggled to make any sense of that, far too many repetitions of ‘and.’ If it were not for the sexual content I’d say it had been written by a school age kid. So bad Blush
I think the thinks that’s a narrative style, to show sexual frenzy. Bizarre!
Maskless · 08/11/2021 08:57

He ejaculated 5 times? Yeah, bro.

DaisyNGO · 08/11/2021 08:57

What did I just read?!

SuperDup3r · 08/11/2021 08:57

I'm not a sock puppet?!! It's clear to anyone with half a brain that he's poking fun at himself on the Twitter link you posted.

I'm not a Coren fan at all, think the man is an idiot. But do get your facts straight before accusing people of sock puppeting because they don't agree with you

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 08/11/2021 08:59

Man that was some shit writing!
Especially as it's probably meant to be serious...

queenofarles · 08/11/2021 09:03

Oh God Grin GrinGrin,

How is that even possible , what position was it ?

Even with that demo video, I still can’t picture it .

LittleDandelionClock · 08/11/2021 09:04

OMG that is dreadful! He is not a successful author because he's crap, not because he's a white male!