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Friends DD threw my daughter to the ground

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AmIInside · 05/11/2021 09:32

Friends daughter is 9 (same age as my DD). My DD is very into dancing and dances constantly. She dances in the house, around the living room, in her bedroom, in the garden, in the shops, in the street - constantly. She loves it.
Friends DD does karate and often practices that too.
Yesterday we were walking home from school and DD was dancing. Friends DD told her to “stop it” saying she was annoying and said “even my mum thinks you’re annoying, don’t you mum?”. Friend went bright red and said she’d never said that and her DD said “yes you did! You said “why can’t she just walk normal, remember?” Friend quickly changed the subject but was clearly embarrassed. I felt really awkward. Didn’t know what to say. DD said “I don’t care that I annoy you, if I want to dance I will do” and started to exaggerate her dancing a little and was swirling around us all. I told her to walk properly before she ends up crashing into someone. She swirled in front of friends DD who grabbed her and threw her to the floor. She landed awkwardly in a muddy puddle and really hurt her arm. She cried like mad 😢 friend told her DD off and told her to apologise, she refused saying DD started it and should just walk normal (echoing what her mum had obviously said). In anger DD shouted that friend was too ugly to be a dancer and that’s why she’s jealous. I told her off for that remark obviously but friends did retorted that DD was an attention seeking idiot and everyone thought so, even the teachers.

Anyway it got horrible and nasty. I can’t stop thinking about it.

Did she deserve to be thrown on the floor? I don’t think so. AIBU to message the mum and tell her how upset I am about the fact she’s clearly been slagging DD off at home?

OP posts:
Offmyfence · 06/11/2021 13:52

@liveforsummer

She wants just not doing what she wanted though she was actively goading her, doing what was annoying her more deliberately
And her own mother had told her to stop, not that she took any notice because she doesn't see why she just can't do what she wants?
Offmyfence · 06/11/2021 13:55

@ancientgran read the OP the mother told her daughter to stop?

I told her to walk properly before she ends up crashing into someone

Hardly fucking random person is it? C'mon the dancing madam does what she likes. She says so, I can if I want.

Are you her Gran?

WeRTheOnesWeHaveBeenWaitingFor · 06/11/2021 13:56

I’m shock by how many people are saying this is normal 9 year old behaviour.
My daughter is 10 and non of her friends have been violent to her since they were toddlers. My daughter would never say someone was ugly, or disliked by everyone.

Offmyfence · 06/11/2021 13:57

@ancientgran nope I don't agree with kids being violent, entitled, disobedient, irritating, goady or nasty!

All of this could've been avoided by the dancing madam doing as she was told.

Child shouldn't have hurt her, but she's no way some innocent beautiful ballerina in all this.

Block · 06/11/2021 14:02

@ancientgran so do you think the Dancing Prodigy should just have carried on really pissing everyone off (apart from her mother, who seems to be charmed by her annoying habits) and stopping them from walking home because she was twirling around them and getting in their way?

I agree that violence is unacceptable. But what would you have suggested as a solution in this situation, where Dancer Girl's mother ought to have intervened effectively, rather than coming out with a bland exhortation to her DD to walk properly (which her DD ignored)?

OP, agreeing with your child that another child is annoying is not "slagging them off". I have agreed on many occasions when my DC have complained about annoying children - because they have always been really, genuinely annoying (I've also tried to give them strategies for dealing with annoying classmates - not least staying away from them altogether). This is not slagging anyone off. In every case, the children concerned have been truly annoying because they have been over-indulged by their parents.

zingally · 06/11/2021 14:02

While your DD didn't deserve to be pushed over... It sounds like both girls are as bad as each other.

And remember... What might be cute and quirky to you, is probably annoying, in-the-way, and showing off to everyone else!

Stela40 · 06/11/2021 14:13

@ancientgran
I never said that it was OK to be violent if something annoys you and if you read my previous post, you will see that I am not being absolutely biased in this matter as you appear to be. I can only imagine that you are a) the OP with a new account or b) a relative who feels the need to support OP. If you are neither of these, then like me, you weren't there! You have no way of knowing just what has gone before and lead up to this (two sides to every story and all that). Yes, violence is NEVER the answer but to suggest that a 9 year old, acting in what seems to be the heat of the moment out of frustration (still wrong!) predisposes her to a life of serial thuggery is as unreasonable as suggesting OP's DD will still be pirouetting around Home Bargains when she's in her forties.
OP's DD did not physically harm anyone on this occasion, but that is not to say that she may not crash into someone in the future if she continues to behave in this way.

DameAlyson · 06/11/2021 14:14

All of this could've been avoided by the dancing madam doing as she was told.

Yes. And it could also have been avoided if the other mother had done something about it when her dd said how annoying it was, such as not walking with op and her dd. Neither parent handled it well.

Waspsarearseholes · 06/11/2021 14:29

All the posters who are horrified about the 'violent assault' on the dancing girl are really over-egging it. There's a reason that emotional abuse has now become illegal - because insults, belittling, gaslighting, destroying confidence, getting people to question themselves, refusing to respect boundaries, refusing to stop when asked, antagonising, etc is just as damaging, actually no, it's more damaging, than being pushed once.
People saying it's a cruel world when children can't dance wherever they like are missing the point spectacularly. But hey, as long as a child didn't push another one out of their face after being asked to stop and refusing to respect their boundaries by saying, I don't care I'll just do it more, the world needs more attention-seeking, superior show offs prancing about the place, being a nuisance to every other person who also has to share that space.

Offmyfence · 06/11/2021 14:34

@DameAlyson

All of this could've been avoided by the dancing madam doing as she was told.

Yes. And it could also have been avoided if the other mother had done something about it when her dd said how annoying it was, such as not walking with op and her dd. Neither parent handled it well.

Yeah she should've said leave the dancing girl alone, she's too irritating and ignores simple requests by her mother and others.
Thatsplentyjack · 06/11/2021 14:34

Your dd sounds extremely irritating, and yes the teachers probably are fed up with it.
You need to tell her at 9 years old she can't be dancing everywhere.
She didn't deserve tk be thrown to the ground but she was purposely annoying your friends dd and could have easily tripped her up.
At 9 the girl is old enough to have her own opinion and she's probably said to her mum that the dancing is getting on her nerves and her mum has agreed with her that uts annoying.

Thatsplentyjack · 06/11/2021 14:34

And the comment about being too ugly to dance? Where did she get that idea I wonder?

Yogaandcocoa · 06/11/2021 14:39

I'm with you OP

We can all be annoying but friend DD shouldn't have done that to your DD.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 06/11/2021 14:40

How horrible
This definitely falls into the shit happens category
As now both kids are upset

I always say strike when the iron is cold
So do nothing , don’t see them for a while and so some thinking
Is your DD annoying
Or
Is she unique , and is being picked on

As of really could be either , and you might need some time to process

halloweenqwueeeen · 06/11/2021 14:42

A push is hardly a violent attack!

Dancing madam was probably mid leap with accompanying jazz hands when she violated karate girls personal space, resulting in a shove out of her way which caused airborne dancing madam to land face first in a muddy puddle.

Wish I was able to witness it really 😂

Bellyups · 06/11/2021 14:44

@AmIInside, no your daughter shouldn’t have been thrown to the ground.
However, she does sound annoying and attention seeking, and what your friends DD said is probably the truth. Everyone does find her attention seeking. Calling someone ugly and jealous is pretty horrible too

ChequerBoard · 06/11/2021 14:49

@Thatsplentyjack

And the comment about being too ugly to dance? Where did she get that idea I wonder?

Yes rather than taking issue with Karate Kid's Mum I think OP should be having a serious conversation about her Angelina Ballerina's incredibly nasty ' too ugly to dance' comment. It's straight out of Mean Girls and sounds like something a bully would say.

In fact the dancing in the other girls face could be seen as a way of underlining the 'I'm pretty look at me dance' message. It's pretty vile behaviour.

ancientgran · 06/11/2021 15:02

@halloweenqwueeeen

A push is hardly a violent attack!

Dancing madam was probably mid leap with accompanying jazz hands when she violated karate girls personal space, resulting in a shove out of her way which caused airborne dancing madam to land face first in a muddy puddle.

Wish I was able to witness it really 😂

Vivid imagination.

No wonder we have a problem with violent teenagers when people seem to want to egg kids on.

Offmyfence · 06/11/2021 15:27

@ancientgran no wonder teenagers take no notice of their parents, it's the fact that those parents have no control when they're young.

What do you think about dancing madam ignoring her mother? Bad behaviour isn't it, then look how it escalated.

SalmonEile · 06/11/2021 16:00

@Offmyfence but what about KarateMadams mother?
KarateMadam had the balls to insult the other girl and demand her mother to back her up and violently assault the other girl IN FRONT of both parents and refuse to apologize when told off by said mother

There wasn’t just one entitled madam and ineffective parent here
KarateMadams mum was aware of her DDs issue and didn’t nothing to equip her to deal with it until this point

SalmonEile · 06/11/2021 16:05

@Courtier she was physically hurt and shoved in a puddle for her behavior
What punishment would you suggest to top that

SalmonEile · 06/11/2021 16:15

@ChequerBoard and the friends DD bitching to all and sundry about how annoying the OPs DD is so she can goad her about how EVERYONE finds her annoying is bullying mean girl territory too but apparently we’re not allowed use the word bully on this thread

Offmyfence · 06/11/2021 16:15

@SalmonEile badly behaved children who defy their parents will be talked about. Dancing madam not only didn't stop when requested, she actively ramped it up. She was practising her dancing, the other child was practising her karate?

Touché

WildImaginings · 06/11/2021 16:20

Your daughter didn't deserve to be thrown to the ground but she does sound annoying and rude. She also sounds like she was deliberately trying to provoke her friend. Impulse control isn't great at 9 and it sounds like friend snapped.

If she's constantly dancing everywhere, getting in people's faces and in their way then teachers and adults probably do think she's attention seeking. I would, and this is coming from someone who had definite attention seeking qualities as a child!

The comment about appearance- vile. You need to clamp down on that now; 9 is old enough to understand that it is never ok to use to use someone's appearance as a way of hurting them.

Offmyfence · 06/11/2021 16:21

[quote SalmonEile]@ChequerBoard and the friends DD bitching to all and sundry about how annoying the OPs DD is so she can goad her about how EVERYONE finds her annoying is bullying mean girl territory too but apparently we’re not allowed use the word bully on this thread[/quote]
You can use the word bully and dancing girl is one! Asked to stop and she bu her mothers own admission increased the dancing! So asked to get out of personal space she starts twirling round them. How confrontational and bullying is that.

Dancing girl needs to learn, to leave people's personal space when asked.

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