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Anyone else feeling depressed about Covid?

295 replies

bluetuesdayy · 19/10/2021 18:38

Cases, deaths and hospitalisations all rising.

Media drip feeding about pressure on the NHS and new variants.

Feel like it's Groundhog Day with this government. Surely they cannot lock us down completely again?

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antsinyourpanta · 19/10/2021 19:30

I have to say I hadn't watched the news or kept up with covid figures for a few weeks
I commute and wear a mask on the train, I guess more than half of people do. I wear masks most of the time in indoor spaces - a few places i regularly go to have heavy glass screens (that were there for security well before covid) and I don't always use a mask there as I am not coming into direct contact with the other person.

I was in a shop today and the owner and another customer were saying they thought there would be another lockdown shortly before christmas...Confused It made me feel a bit despondent tbh. Another person in the shop had just been on holiday and said you were meant yo wear a mask on the plane but most people didn't.

What are the restrictions/mitigations in other European countries ?

DoctorSnortles · 19/10/2021 19:34

[quote secretllama]@DoctorSnortles

Where do you live where you’ve been locked in your house for 18 months?

No need to be pedantic. Quite clearly they mean we've been kept apart for 18 months, and all thats happened is everyone's ill as our immune systems haven't been used to socialising again.[/quote]
There’s every need to be pedantic. You haven’t been locked up for 18 months and there have been considerable periods of time where socialising has been encouraged. Pretending you’ve been under house arrest for 18 months is plainly ridiculous.

bluetuesdayy · 19/10/2021 19:34

@antsinyourpanta if they do 'shortly' before Xmas, compliance would be very low.

Hopefully the shop owner and random customer are wrong! I'm worried about one in the lead up to 'save Xmas' again. And / Or one after.

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XenoBitch · 19/10/2021 19:35

Honestly, just stop reading the news about it. The media loves bad news because it gets loads of clicks and sales.

I don't think we will be locked down again. We can't afford it. It will be the death knell for so many businesses.... many up to the hilt in debt from the bounce back loans, and not had the chance to properly bounce back.
I don't believe many would comply anyway. I know I wont be told who I can and can not see in my own house.

whattodo2019 · 19/10/2021 19:37

Now i've had covid and felt horrendous despite being double vaccinated, I wish we would go back to wearing masks more. I have felt
so ill but I'm glad i've now had it, although im aware i can get it again. We need to keep all shops, bars, places of work, schools open but i order to do this safely we need precautions

ilovesooty · 19/10/2021 19:37

In Greece you had to prove that you were vaccinated to enter enclosed public places. In both Malta and Greece masks were worn in shops and on transport, and in public areas of the hotel. There are restrictions in Malta regarding numbers of people who can be seated together in restaurants. Malta won't allow travellers over 12 that aren't fully vaccinated into the country.

whattodo2019 · 19/10/2021 19:41

@userchange987

No, I haven't heard or read anything about Covid in weeks, months even. My life is completely back to normal now. I understand being twitchy with your wedding, but try not to let it ruin the run up, we are in a very different place to what we were.
I'm glad your life is back to normal. Working in a small school of 220 in the south with over 20% of the school currently with covid, my life certainly doesn't feel back to normal. A number of the children have been very unwell, and the adults including myself have been ill too. Plus it's now half term, lots of us are spending it in isolation, holidays cancelled and in my case i can't be with my two children who are home from boarding school.....
BitterTits · 19/10/2021 19:41

Try working in it. I've shared a classroom with 15 positive cases over the last ten days, not to mention multiple groups of their close contacts. I'm fucking sick of it and I don't qualify for a booster.

DoctorSnortles · 19/10/2021 19:45

I understand completely, @BitterTits and @whattodo2019

It’s completely shit.

Jourdain11 · 19/10/2021 19:47

The problem is, it's very easy to say "just do fucking social distancing", but social distancing prevents many businesses and organisations from being able to operate effectively.

Confiscatedpopit · 19/10/2021 19:48

If we lockdown the majority of people won’t abide by it now. The fear factor has massively gone and people aren’t bothered anymore, they are just bored of it.

DoctorSnortles · 19/10/2021 19:48

@Jourdain11

The problem is, it's very easy to say "just do fucking social distancing", but social distancing prevents many businesses and organisations from being able to operate effectively.
They won’t be operating at all if things continue the way they are.
chocolateorangeinhaler · 19/10/2021 19:50

Why is everyone thinking going back to masks will suddenly make covid disappear?

Newsflash - it won't. Ever.

People need to be vaccinated unless there is a valid medical reason as to why they can't. The government had a public consultation on if the vaccine should be mandatory a few months ago. I wonder if the results are now in and our choice will be masks and lockdown or compulsory vaccine.

FourTeaFallOut · 19/10/2021 19:50

No. They have extinguished any good faith and compliance out of the population. I don't think they'll call for a lockdown because there would be little adherence.

BitterTits · 19/10/2021 19:52

@FourTeaFallOut

No. They have extinguished any good faith and compliance out of the population. I don't think they'll call for a lockdown because there would be little adherence.
You're probably right, and then they'd lose face.
MarshaBradyo · 19/10/2021 19:53

@Confiscatedpopit

If we lockdown the majority of people won’t abide by it now. The fear factor has massively gone and people aren’t bothered anymore, they are just bored of it.
I do think this a factor

So many people have had it it changes the you need to avoid it at all costs fear factor

XenoBitch · 19/10/2021 19:54

@chocolateorangeinhaler

Why is everyone thinking going back to masks will suddenly make covid disappear?

Newsflash - it won't. Ever.

People need to be vaccinated unless there is a valid medical reason as to why they can't. The government had a public consultation on if the vaccine should be mandatory a few months ago. I wonder if the results are now in and our choice will be masks and lockdown or compulsory vaccine.

They wont make the vaccine compulsory. It would be a human rights nightmare.
DoctorSnortles · 19/10/2021 19:54

@chocolateorangeinhaler can you point out where anyone has said mask wearing will make Covid ‘disappear’? I’ve only noticed it being mentioned as a way to mitigate the spread, not make Covid vanish, which everyone knows will never happen.

Jourdain11 · 19/10/2021 19:54

@FourTeaFallOut

No. They have extinguished any good faith and compliance out of the population. I don't think they'll call for a lockdown because there would be little adherence.
Exactly - what govt wants to call a lockdown which half the population don't adhere to? It hardly makes them appear in control!

@DoctorSnortles why do you think businesses won't be operating at all soon?

Sosososotired · 19/10/2021 19:55

Looking at death and hospital rates in struggling to get worried. I do feel sad for families who have suffered losses, and I'm concerned for my own cev parent. But I'm so tired of the scaremongering that I don't even bother to read news about covid. All my kids have had it, me and HD are vaccinated, and now getting on with life.

Silverswirl · 19/10/2021 19:57

@Gardenlass but that is where you are completely wrong. For the vast vast majority of double vaxxed people and children, the restrictions are far far worse than the virus.
Yes I’ve had it as have all my family and literally 50% of everyone I know.
The more people that catch it and realise ‘oh hang on, this is actually just a bit of a nucience for a week’ the more that won’t want restrictions.
Obviously there are some unfortunate people who are dying with covid but the vast majority are people who would have died from any virus and whist that doesn’t make it right, taking basic human rights and freedoms from people and taking vital education from kids on a constant on off basis isn’t right either.

DoctorSnortles · 19/10/2021 19:57

@Jourdain11 Surely if steps aren’t not taken, perhaps including social distancing, hospitalisations will reach such a pitch that lockdown becomes necessary, in which case many of those businesses would be shut completely.

chocolateorangeinhaler · 19/10/2021 19:59

[quote DoctorSnortles]@chocolateorangeinhaler can you point out where anyone has said mask wearing will make Covid ‘disappear’? I’ve only noticed it being mentioned as a way to mitigate the spread, not make Covid vanish, which everyone knows will never happen.[/quote]
It won't tho will it. People have no appetite for wearing them anymore.

Silverswirl · 19/10/2021 20:00

@BitterTits

Try working in it. I've shared a classroom with 15 positive cases over the last ten days, not to mention multiple groups of their close contacts. I'm fucking sick of it and I don't qualify for a booster.
You will have been exposed. Highly likely that your immune system has fought it off by now without virus particales replicating.
WitchyNameChange · 19/10/2021 20:00

No I barely even think about it now. The whole family has had it, and the restrictions were far worse than the illness.

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