Anyone else feeling depressed about Covid?

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Cases, deaths and hospitalisations all rising.

Media drip feeding about pressure on the NHS and new variants.

Feel like it's Groundhog Day with this government. Surely they cannot lock us down completely again?

@Sunset999 you just sounded very certain,that's all.

No just a feeling but i really hope I am wrong,....

Schools are awful. Our kids got their vaccines last week but only 45% take up. We have so many kids off - some on their second Covid infection. I watch it move around the class ... first two pupils, then six, then another
Four, then the first two come back and three more go off...

My main concern is exams - Year 11 and 13 have had such a disrupted time (and still are). They need more
Than 'watered down' exams.

Oh and my double vaccinated friend is in hospital with Covid at the moment. It has turned to pneumonia. There are lots of people still getting really ill

Yup, it’s on my mind all the time I’m at school and I can’t see my elderly parents as don’t want to unwittingly infect them.

It’s still affecting my life big time.

@Sunset999 you sound very hopeful of a lockdown and us all walking round with a piece of fabric over our mouths. I have to say the prospect of another Xmas without seeing my baby niece- yeah sounds great

@Kiduknot

Yup, it’s on my mind all the time I’m at school and I can’t see my elderly parents as don’t want to unwittingly infect them.

It’s still affecting my life big time.

Don't not see them. I did the same and my dad died last year when I had seen him once in 8 months and was in a care home on his own. Make sure you see them.

I am not depressed about it, it's more like a sense of acceptance of the inevitability of the situation. It will almost certainly get worse before it gets better again, lots of people will die, of Covid and also as a result of the pressure on essential services.

It is going to be a long hard Winter for anyone working in the NHS, Ambulance service and Social care and anyone unfortunate enough to need those services for whatever reason over the next few months.

@Pieceofpurplesky

Schools are awful. Our kids got their vaccines last week but only 45% take up. We have so many kids off - some on their second Covid infection. I watch it move around the class ... first two pupils, then six, then another Four, then the first two come back and three more go off...

My main concern is exams - Year 11 and 13 have had such a disrupted time (and still are). They need more
Than 'watered down' exams.

Oh and my double vaccinated friend is in hospital with Covid at the moment. It has turned to pneumonia. There are lots of people still getting really ill

My son is 13 and I would have said yes to him getting vaccinated but they took parental choice out the equation. So it's his autonomous choice which works both ways and he has said no. I csnt force him to have it like I cant force him not too. It's none of my beeswax unlike his HPV

@IncessantNameChanger There is no difference between the Covid consent and other vaccinations - if your son objects to HPV they won't give that to him either.

Can you not talk to him a bit?

[quote rrhuth]@IncessantNameChanger There is no difference between the Covid consent and other vaccinations - if your son objects to HPV they won't give that to him either.

Can you not talk to him a bit?[/quote]
Yes but he didnt know about consent and HPV as that was all before the covid vax was offered for his age.

He has SEN and he knew he could refuse injections he would never ever have one again. We have talked and he said giving someone cancer is serious but he feels he would have better immunity via getting covid.

At this point he will need a lot of convincing. He has sensory processing disorder among other things going on

*Masks have very little impact, they have a maximum reduction of transmission of around 20% in an "ideal use" scenario, however in a "real world" scenario they reduce spread by

@IncessantNameChanger it's crazy isn't it. I sympathise totally

I’m gutted at the thought. I’ve read some worrying things about the acceleration of climate change, the last of the thick ice is melting. Things are going to get continuously worse. I have so many plans for next year I want to do before the world fully goes to shit and I’ll be devastated if I can’t even do them because of Covid.

@Sunset999

No just a feeling but i really hope I am wrong,....

2 lockdowns. One in November to save xmas and one January-Half-term is my guess.

Yes, bloody depressed. Grandson has now infected his parents and brother, then by extension brother's girlfriend and family as a result of policy 'we no longer need to wear masks in school'. Is everyone deranged? An infectious virus is an infectious virus, it doesn't obey school rules.

I feel really despondent. Family in NHS and really struggling. Chaotic now heading into winter and it just goes on and on. Juggling beds on a daily basis.

I know my area is bad at the moment but seeing double vaxxEd friends hospitalised has shaken me. Feels like this time last year.

[quote BoredZelda]*Masks have very little impact, they have a maximum reduction of transmission of around 20% in an "ideal use" scenario, however in a "real world" scenario they reduce spread by

Hope you never need open heart surgery zelda but if you do, please remember to instruct the surgical staff to remove their masks when they operate. You'll be at no risk of infection at all. They just put those unnecessary masks on to annoy you.

[quote Silverswirl]@Gardenlass but that is where you are completely wrong. For the vast vast majority of double vaxxed people and children, the restrictions are far far worse than the virus.
Yes I’ve had it as have all my family and literally 50% of everyone I know.
The more people that catch it and realise ‘oh hang on, this is actually just a bit of a nucience for a week’ the more that won’t want restrictions.
Obviously there are some unfortunate people who are dying with covid but the vast majority are people who would have died from any virus and whist that doesn’t make it right, taking basic human rights and freedoms from people and taking vital education from kids on a constant on off basis isn’t right either.[/quote]
Totally agree with this.

Covid isolations have been happening in our house since 1st Oct. Totally wrecked our holiday plans for half term and several weekend plans.
But I had no more than cold symptoms - not even a bad one - and my daughter was asymptomatic. I know of lots of their friends who are also asymptomatic.

For the vast majority of people this will be their experience. Can’t see them then complying/agreeing with a new Lockdown!

@longwayoff

Hope you never need open heart surgery zelda but if you do, please remember to instruct the surgical staff to remove their masks when they operate. You'll be at no risk of infection at all. They just put those unnecessary masks on to annoy you.

Masks in a surgical setting are A, used properly and B, are not used to control the spread of Covid. They work incredibly well when used by skilled professionals, in the correct way, in a controlled environment, for a specific purpose for which they were designed. They do no work well when used badly for a task which they were not designed for.

Surgical masks are great for surgery, almost useless for airborne respiratory viruses, generic face coverings are even worse.

Covid depresses me for the obvious reasons like the awful deaths, the sufferings , family and friends separated, businesses suffering etc but honestly part of my loves it

I appreciate going for a walk a lot more - I've lost 3 stone
I love wearing a mask helps my anxiety
I feel people respect personal space a lot more which is great for someone who anxious like me
I've focussed this year on making a more of an effort to speak with friends and family to check in more often that I usually would
Just generally appreciate life and what's important more

I'm feeling twitchy.
Caught Covid 4 weeks ago off DS1 and still struggling.

My DS are both y11. They've had Covid but their schools aren't vaccinating til after half term.

They both have mocks after that and I wonder if they will go ahead smoothly. My one DC had 7 isolations last winter (70 days) and the other, four.

Agree with pp about it's all or nothing regarding mitigations, lurching from one crisis to the next without learning from our mistakes or without following what other countries (like Italy) are doing regarding caution.

Do tell the people of, for instance, Hong Kong, where they very sensibly pop on a mask as a matter of course to prevent spreading various infections. It's pretty effective there.

@longwayoff

Do tell the people of, for instance, Hong Kong, where they very sensibly pop on a mask as a matter of course to prevent spreading various infections. It's pretty effective there.

Correlation does not mean causation.

I got a BSc in Biomedical Science, followed by a masters, followed by a PhD and a career in research, all from UK universities

If that’s true, you’re embarrassingly out of date. You’re quoting data from pre-Covid studies, which looked at individuals or small cohorts wearing masks - as Japanese people do, when they have colds, for example. That’s totally different from the cumulative effect when all/most of the population wear them.

Good summary of the data on Covid here - and there have been further analyses with similar findings since.